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* Mode 15 of the harmonic or subharmonic series.
* Mode 15 of the harmonic or subharmonic series.


The 29-limit intervals of the 2.3.29 subgroup are [[submajor and supraminor]], with [[29/27]] being a supraminor second, [[32/29]] a submajor second, [[29/24]] a supraminor third, and [[36/29]] a submajor third, with their [[octave complement]]s classified accordingly. While  supraminor and submajor intervals occur in lower limits, such as [[14/13]], [[11/10]], and [[17/14]], these combine multiple primes higher than 3, unlike the 29-limit ones. The [[29/1|29th harmonic]] is thus quite simple to classify by [[5L 2s|diatonic]] classification, and has a characteristic [[interval quality]] like harmonics [[5/1|5]], [[7/1|7]], etc. Primes [[17/1|17]] and [[23/1|23]] are not so friendly in terms of interval categorization, and may be considered discordant to the fundamental, being a semitone and a tritone when [[octave reduced]] respectively. Thus many people wish to exclude them, leading to the 2.3.5.7.11.13.19.29 subgroup.
The 29-limit intervals of the 2.3.29 subgroup are [[submajor and supraminor]], with [[29/27]] being a supraminor second, [[32/29]] a submajor second, [[29/24]] a supraminor third, and [[36/29]] a submajor third, with their [[octave complement]]s classified accordingly. While  supraminor and submajor intervals occur in lower limits, such as [[14/13]], [[11/10]], and [[17/14]], these combine multiple primes higher than 3, unlike the 29-limit ones. The [[29/1|29th harmonic]] is thus quite simple to classify by [[5L 2s|diatonic]] classification, and has a characteristic [[interval quality]] like harmonics [[5/1|5]], [[7/1|7]], etc. Primes [[17/1|17]] and [[23/1|23]] are not so friendly in terms of interval categorization, and may be considered discordant to the fundamental, being a semitone and a tritone when [[octave reduced]] respectively. Thus many people wish to exclude them, leading to the [[2.3.5.7.11.13.19.29 subgroup]].


However, the 29-limit approaches the point where [[consonance]] stops being registered, and intervals become very close to each other, such as [[29/28]] only being wider than [[30/29]] by [[841/840]], a comma of 2.06{{c}}. This difference is [[JND|unnoticeable]] melodically, and very difficult to hear harmonically.
However, the 29-limit approaches the point where [[consonance]] stops being registered, and intervals become very close to each other, such as [[29/28]] only being wider than [[30/29]] by [[841/840]], a comma of 2.06{{c}}. This difference is [[JND|unnoticeable]] melodically, and very difficult to hear harmonically.
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== Music ==
== Music ==
; [[Gordon Wery]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VinHNxf1CAg ''lucky lopside''] (2025)
; [[Domin]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kVJ4aFj0wY ''Ixnge Uotbnatsz (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2026)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r43wGByQXlg ''Ixnge Blulg (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgpQQnfrfXs ''Ixnge Euiia (2.3.7.13.29 JI) (dark ambient)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5yi9nYUHiU ''Exngo Onkha (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8UNYagV-TI ''Ixnge Bnga (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoIkVeBkYTQ ''Angagn Yeein (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q0sY4gHBSA ''Exngo Rhkue (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rsoSUyaIbA ''Oxnga Cryxs (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6NDUBrBhgc ''Angagn Dgaa (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=papYRvAUGGU ''Exngo Auerkt (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCCJ5DZLvFw ''Angagn Rgar (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udqAU6yXU9c ''Ixnge Ioikra (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEQ744soAsg ''Ixnge Sauej (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR6_FWtRS6c ''Oxnga Otrahn (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl4LTKeOvxk ''Angagn Ehji (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2jU3wE0qQs ''Angagn Leish (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSn5EPCiTpk ''Angagn Aazx (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-OvHwWsN1o ''Angagn Ount (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIpeXF9Y2eo ''Axngo Zilt (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2AbFDG46NE ''Oxnga Żdżarg (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPNcubgnb7g ''Exngo Akkaya (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uek49JwDuQo ''Oxnga Shkarr (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7zxsA-XpHs ''Axngo Knett (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6rRBqmVSs ''Axngo Ndge (2.3.7.13.29 JI)''] (2026)
; [[Francium]]
; [[Francium]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwvKS0RhTgs ''Spring Your Miracle''] (2026)
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwvKS0RhTgs ''Spring Your Miracle''] (2026)