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Scale structure
Step pattern LLLsLLs
sLLsLLL
Equave 2/1 (1200.0 ¢)
Period 2/1 (1200.0 ¢)
Generator size
Bright 4\7 to 3\5 (685.7 ¢ to 720.0 ¢)
Dark 2\5 to 3\7 (480.0 ¢ to 514.3 ¢)
TAMNAMS information
Name diatonic
Prefix dia-
Abbrev. dia
Related MOS scales
Parent 2L 3s
Sister 2L 5s
Daughters 7L 5s, 5L 7s
Neutralized 3L 4s
2-Flought 12L 2s, 5L 9s
Equal tunings
Equalized (L:s = 1:1) 4\7 (685.7 ¢)
Supersoft (L:s = 4:3) 15\26 (692.3 ¢)
Soft (L:s = 3:2) 11\19 (694.7 ¢)
Semisoft (L:s = 5:3) 18\31 (696.8 ¢)
Basic (L:s = 2:1) 7\12 (700.0 ¢)
Semihard (L:s = 5:2) 17\29 (703.4 ¢)
Hard (L:s = 3:1) 10\17 (705.9 ¢)
Superhard (L:s = 4:1) 13\22 (709.1 ¢)
Collapsed (L:s = 1:0) 3\5 (720.0 ¢)
This is a test page. For the main page, see 5L 2s.

5L 2s, named diatonic in TAMNAMS, is a 2/1-equivalent (octave-equivalent) moment of symmetry scale containing 5 large steps and 2 small steps, repeating every octave. Generators that produce this scale range from 685.7 ¢ to 720 ¢, or from 480 ¢ to 514.3 ¢. Among the most well-known forms of this scale are the diatonic scale of 12edo, the Pythagorean diatonic scale, and scales produced by meantone systems.

Name

TAMNAMS suggests the temperament-agnostic name diatonic for this scale, which commonly refers to a scale with 5 whole steps and 2 small steps. Under TAMNAMS and for all scale pattern pages on the wiki, the term diatonic exclusively refers to 5L 2s.

The term diatonic may also refer to scales produced using tetrachords, just intonation, or in general have more than one size of whole tone. Such scales, such as Zarlino, blackdye and diasem, are specifically called detempered diatonic scales (for an RTT-based philosophy) or deregularized diatonic scales (for an RTT-agnostic philosophy). The terms diatonic-like or diatonic-based may also be used to refer such scales, depending on what's contextually the most appropriate.

Intervals

This article assumes TAMNAMS for naming mossteps.

Intervals are identical to that of standard notation. As such, the usual interval qualities of major/minor and augmented/perfect/diminished apply here.


Intervals of 5L 2s
Intervals Steps
subtended 		Range in cents
Generic Specific Abbrev.
0-diastep Perfect 0-diastep P0dias 0 0.0 ¢
1-diastep Minor 1-diastep m1dias s 0.0 ¢ to 171.4 ¢
Major 1-diastep M1dias L 171.4 ¢ to 240.0 ¢
2-diastep Minor 2-diastep m2dias L + s 240.0 ¢ to 342.9 ¢
Major 2-diastep M2dias 2L 342.9 ¢ to 480.0 ¢
3-diastep Perfect 3-diastep P3dias 2L + s 480.0 ¢ to 514.3 ¢
Augmented 3-diastep A3dias 3L 514.3 ¢ to 720.0 ¢
4-diastep Diminished 4-diastep d4dias 2L + 2s 480.0 ¢ to 685.7 ¢
Perfect 4-diastep P4dias 3L + s 685.7 ¢ to 720.0 ¢
5-diastep Minor 5-diastep m5dias 3L + 2s 720.0 ¢ to 857.1 ¢
Major 5-diastep M5dias 4L + s 857.1 ¢ to 960.0 ¢
6-diastep Minor 6-diastep m6dias 4L + 2s 960.0 ¢ to 1028.6 ¢
Major 6-diastep M6dias 5L + s 1028.6 ¢ to 1200.0 ¢
7-diastep Perfect 7-diastep P7dias 5L + 2s 1200.0 ¢

Notation

See 5L 2s/Notation

Theory

Introduction to step sizes

Main article: Scale tree and TAMNAMS#Step ratio spectrum

The familiar pattern of 5 whole steps and 2 half steps, commonly written as WWHWWWH for the major scale, has step sizes of 2 (whole step) and 1 (half step), producing 12edo. This can be generalized into the form LLsLLLs, with whole-number sizes for the large steps and small steps, denoted as "L" and "s" respectively.

Different edos are produced by using different ratios of step sizes. A few examples are shown below.

Step ratio (L:s) Step pattern EDO Selected multiples
1:1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 7edo 14edo, 21edo, etc.
4:3 4 4 3 4 4 4 3 26edo
3:2 3 3 2 3 3 3 2 19edo 38edo
5:3 5 5 3 5 5 5 3 31edo
2:1 2 2 1 2 2 2 1 12edo (standard tuning) 24edo, 36edo, etc.
5:2 5 5 2 5 5 5 2 29edo
3:1 3 3 1 3 3 3 1 17edo 34edo
4:1 4 4 1 4 4 4 1 22edo
1:0 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 5edo 10edo, 15edo, etc.

Edos that are multiples of the examples above can be reached by entering non-simplified step ratios. For example, edos that are multiples of 12 are reached by using larger values whose ratio simplifies to 2:1, such as 4:2 for 24edo.

All step ratios lie on a spectrum from 1:1 to 1:0, referred to on the wiki as a scale tree. The step ratios 1:1 and 1:0 represent the limits for valid step ratios. A step ratio that approaches 1:1, where the large and small step are equal to one another, approaches 7edo, and a step ratio that approaches 1:0, where the small step "collapses" to zero, approaches 5edo.

TAMNAMS has names for regions of this spectrum based on whether they are "soft" (between 1:1 and 2:1) or "hard" (between 2:1 and 1:0).

Temperament interpretations

Main article: 5L 2s/Temperaments

5L 2s has several rank-2 temperament interpretations, such as:

  • Meantone, with generators around 696.2¢. This includes:
    • Flattone, with generators around 693.7¢.
  • Schismic, with generators around 702¢.
  • Parapyth, with generators around 704.7¢.
  • Archy, with generators around 709.3¢. This includes:
    • Supra, with generators around 707.2¢
    • Superpyth, with generators around 710.3¢
    • Ultrapyth, with generators around 713.7¢.

Tuning ranges

Simple tunings

17edo and 19edo are the smallest edos that offer a greater variety of pitches than 12edo. Note that any enharmonic equivalences that 12edo has no longer hold for either 17edo or 19edo, as shown in the table below.

  User:MOS degrees is deprecated. Please use Template:MOS tunings instead.
Scale degree of 5L 2s
Scale degree 12edo (Basic, L:s = 2:1) 17edo (Hard, L:s = 3:1) 19edo (Soft, L:s = 3:2) Approx. JI Ratios
Steps Cents Steps Cents Steps Cents
Perfect 0-diadegree (unison) 0 0 0 0 0 0 1/1 (exact)
Minor 1-diadegree 1 100 1 70.6 2 126.3
Major 1-diadegree 2 200 3 211.8 3 189.5
Minor 2-diadegree 3 300 4 282.4 5 315.8
Major 2-diadegree 4 400 6 423.5 6 378.9
Perfect 3-diadegree 5 500 7 494.1 8 505.3
Augmented 3-diadegree 6 600 9 635.3 9 568.4
Diminished 4-diadegree 6 600 8 564.7 10 631.6
Perfect 4-diadegree 7 700 10 705.9 11 694.7
Minor 5-diadegree 8 800 11 776.5 13 821.1
Major 5-diadegree 9 900 13 917.6 14 884.2
Minor 6-diadegree 10 1000 14 988.2 16 1010.5
Major 6-diadegree 11 1100 16 1129.4 17 1073.7
Perfect 7-diadegree (octave) 12 1200 17 1200 19 1200 2/1 (exact)

Parasoft tunings

Main article: Flattone

Parasoft tunings (4:3 to 3:2) correspond to flattone temperaments, characterized by flattened perfect 5ths (3/2, flat of 702¢) to produce major 3rds that are flatter than 5/4 (386¢).

Edos include 19edo, 26edo, 45edo, and 64edo.

  User:MOS degrees is deprecated. Please use Template:MOS tunings instead.
Scale degree of 5L 2s
Scale degree 19edo (Soft, L:s = 3:2) 26edo (Supersoft, L:s = 4:3) 45edo (L:s = 7:5) 64edo (L:s = 10:7) Approx. JI Ratios
Steps Cents Steps Cents Steps Cents Steps Cents
Perfect 0-diadegree (unison) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1/1 (exact)
Minor 1-diadegree 2 126.3 3 138.5 5 133.3 7 131.3
Major 1-diadegree 3 189.5 4 184.6 7 186.7 10 187.5
Minor 2-diadegree 5 315.8 7 323.1 12 320 17 318.8
Major 2-diadegree 6 378.9 8 369.2 14 373.3 20 375
Perfect 3-diadegree 8 505.3 11 507.7 19 506.7 27 506.2
Augmented 3-diadegree 9 568.4 12 553.8 21 560 30 562.5
Diminished 4-diadegree 10 631.6 14 646.2 24 640 34 637.5
Perfect 4-diadegree 11 694.7 15 692.3 26 693.3 37 693.8
Minor 5-diadegree 13 821.1 18 830.8 31 826.7 44 825
Major 5-diadegree 14 884.2 19 876.9 33 880 47 881.2
Minor 6-diadegree 16 1010.5 22 1015.4 38 1013.3 54 1012.5
Major 6-diadegree 17 1073.7 23 1061.5 40 1066.7 57 1068.8
Perfect 7-diadegree (octave) 19 1200 26 1200 45 1200 64 1200 2/1 (exact)

Hyposoft tunings

Main article: Meantone

Hyposoft tunings (3:2 to 2:1) correspond to meantone temperaments, characterized by flattened perfect 5ths (flat of 702¢) to produce diatonic major 3rds that approximate 5/4 (386¢).

Edos include 19edo, 31edo, 43edo, and 50edo.

  User:MOS degrees is deprecated. Please use Template:MOS tunings instead.
Scale degree of 5L 2s
Scale degree 19edo (Soft, L:s = 3:2) 31edo (Semisoft, L:s = 5:3) 43edo (L:s = 7:4) 50edo (L:s = 8:5) Approx. JI Ratios
Steps Cents Steps Cents Steps Cents Steps Cents
Perfect 0-diadegree (unison) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1/1 (exact)
Minor 1-diadegree 2 126.3 3 116.1 4 111.6 5 120
Major 1-diadegree 3 189.5 5 193.5 7 195.3 8 192
Minor 2-diadegree 5 315.8 8 309.7 11 307 13 312
Major 2-diadegree 6 378.9 10 387.1 14 390.7 16 384
Perfect 3-diadegree 8 505.3 13 503.2 18 502.3 21 504
Augmented 3-diadegree 9 568.4 15 580.6 21 586 24 576
Diminished 4-diadegree 10 631.6 16 619.4 22 614 26 624
Perfect 4-diadegree 11 694.7 18 696.8 25 697.7 29 696
Minor 5-diadegree 13 821.1 21 812.9 29 809.3 34 816
Major 5-diadegree 14 884.2 23 890.3 32 893 37 888
Minor 6-diadegree 16 1010.5 26 1006.5 36 1004.7 42 1008
Major 6-diadegree 17 1073.7 28 1083.9 39 1088.4 45 1080
Perfect 7-diadegree (octave) 19 1200 31 1200 43 1200 50 1200 2/1 (exact)

Hypohard tunings

Main article: Pythagorean tuning and schismatic temperament

The range of hypohard tunings can be divided into a minihard range (2:1 to 5:2) and quasihard range (5:2 to 3:1).

Minihard tunings

Minihard tunings correspond to Pythagorean tuning and schismatic temperament, characterized by having a perfect 5th that is as close to just (701.96¢) as possible, resulting in a major 3rd of 81/64 (407¢).

Edos include 41edo and 53edo.

  User:MOS degrees is deprecated. Please use Template:MOS tunings instead.
Scale degree of 5L 2s
Scale degree 41edo (L:s = 7:3) 53edo (L:s = 9:4) Approx. JI Ratios
Steps Cents Steps Cents
Perfect 0-diadegree (unison) 0 0 0 0 1/1 (exact)
Minor 1-diadegree 3 87.8 4 90.6
Major 1-diadegree 7 204.9 9 203.8
Minor 2-diadegree 10 292.7 13 294.3
Major 2-diadegree 14 409.8 18 407.5
Perfect 3-diadegree 17 497.6 22 498.1
Augmented 3-diadegree 21 614.6 27 611.3
Diminished 4-diadegree 20 585.4 26 588.7
Perfect 4-diadegree 24 702.4 31 701.9
Minor 5-diadegree 27 790.2 35 792.5
Major 5-diadegree 31 907.3 40 905.7
Minor 6-diadegree 34 995.1 44 996.2
Major 6-diadegree 38 1112.2 49 1109.4
Perfect 7-diadegree (octave) 41 1200 53 1200 2/1 (exact)

Quasihard tunings

Quasihard tunings correspond to "neogothic" or "parapyth" systems whose perfect 5th is slightly sharper than just, resulting in major 3rds that are sharper than 81/64 and minor 3rds that are slightly flat of 32/27 (294¢).

Edos include 17edo, 29edo, and 46edo. 17edo is considered to be on the sharper end of the neogothic spectrum, with a major 3rd that is more discordant than flatter neogothic tunings.

  User:MOS degrees is deprecated. Please use Template:MOS tunings instead.
Scale degree of 5L 2s
Scale degree 17edo (Hard, L:s = 3:1) 29edo (Semihard, L:s = 5:2) 46edo (L:s = 8:3) Approx. JI Ratios
Steps Cents Steps Cents Steps Cents
Perfect 0-diadegree (unison) 0 0 0 0 0 0 1/1 (exact)
Minor 1-diadegree 1 70.6 2 82.8 3 78.3
Major 1-diadegree 3 211.8 5 206.9 8 208.7
Minor 2-diadegree 4 282.4 7 289.7 11 287
Major 2-diadegree 6 423.5 10 413.8 16 417.4
Perfect 3-diadegree 7 494.1 12 496.6 19 495.7
Augmented 3-diadegree 9 635.3 15 620.7 24 626.1
Diminished 4-diadegree 8 564.7 14 579.3 22 573.9
Perfect 4-diadegree 10 705.9 17 703.4 27 704.3
Minor 5-diadegree 11 776.5 19 786.2 30 782.6
Major 5-diadegree 13 917.6 22 910.3 35 913
Minor 6-diadegree 14 988.2 24 993.1 38 991.3
Major 6-diadegree 16 1129.4 27 1117.2 43 1121.7
Perfect 7-diadegree (octave) 17 1200 29 1200 46 1200 2/1 (exact)

Parahard and ultrahard tunings

Main article: Archy

Parahard (3:1 to 4:1) and ultrahard tunings (4:1 to 1:0) correspond to archy systems, with perfect 5ths that are significantly sharper than than 702¢.

Edos include 17edo, 22edo, 27edo, and 32edo, among others.

  User:MOS degrees is deprecated. Please use Template:MOS tunings instead.
Scale degree of 5L 2s
Scale degree 17edo (Hard, L:s = 3:1) 22edo (Superhard, L:s = 4:1) 27edo (L:s = 5:1) 32edo (L:s = 6:1) Approx. JI Ratios
Steps Cents Steps Cents Steps Cents Steps Cents
Perfect 0-diadegree (unison) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1/1 (exact)
Minor 1-diadegree 1 70.6 1 54.5 1 44.4 1 37.5
Major 1-diadegree 3 211.8 4 218.2 5 222.2 6 225
Minor 2-diadegree 4 282.4 5 272.7 6 266.7 7 262.5
Major 2-diadegree 6 423.5 8 436.4 10 444.4 12 450
Perfect 3-diadegree 7 494.1 9 490.9 11 488.9 13 487.5
Augmented 3-diadegree 9 635.3 12 654.5 15 666.7 18 675
Diminished 4-diadegree 8 564.7 10 545.5 12 533.3 14 525
Perfect 4-diadegree 10 705.9 13 709.1 16 711.1 19 712.5
Minor 5-diadegree 11 776.5 14 763.6 17 755.6 20 750
Major 5-diadegree 13 917.6 17 927.3 21 933.3 25 937.5
Minor 6-diadegree 14 988.2 18 981.8 22 977.8 26 975
Major 6-diadegree 16 1129.4 21 1145.5 26 1155.6 31 1162.5
Perfect 7-diadegree (octave) 17 1200 22 1200 27 1200 32 1200 2/1 (exact)

Modes

Diatonic modes have standard names from classical music theory:

Modes of 5L 2s
UDP Cyclic
order		 Step
pattern		 Mode names
6|0 1 LLLsLLs Lydian
5|1 5 LLsLLLs Ionian (major)
4|2 2 LLsLLsL Mixolydian
3|3 6 LsLLLsL Dorian
2|4 3 LsLLsLL Aeolian (minor)
1|5 7 sLLLsLL Phrygian
0|6 4 sLLsLLL Locrian

Each mode has the following scale degrees, reached by raising or lowering certain naturals by a chroma.

TODO: Make this into a template
Mode Scale degree (on C)
UDP Step pattern 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th
6|0 LLLsLLs Perfect (C) Major (D) Major (E) Augmented (F#) Perfect (G) Major (A) Major (B) Perfect (C)
5|1 LLsLLLs Perfect (C) Major (D) Major (E) Perfect (F) Perfect (G) Major (A) Major (B) Perfect (C)
4|2 LLsLLsL Perfect (C) Major (D) Major (E) Perfect (F) Perfect (G) Major (A) Minor (Bb) Perfect (C)
3|3 LsLLLsL Perfect (C) Major (D) Minor (Eb) Perfect (F) Perfect (G) Major (A) Minor (Bb) Perfect (C)
2|4 LsLLsLL Perfect (C) Major (D) Minor (Eb) Perfect (F) Perfect (G) Minor (Ab) Minor (Bb) Perfect (C)
1|5 sLLLsLL Perfect (C) Minor (Db) Minor (Eb) Perfect (F) Perfect (G) Minor (Ab) Minor (Bb) Perfect (C)
0|6 sLLsLLL Perfect (C) Minor (Db) Minor (Eb) Perfect (F) Diminished (Gb) Minor (Ab) Minor (Bb) Perfect (C)

Scales

Subset and superset scales

5L 2s has a parent scale of 2L 3s, a pentatonic scale, meaning 2L 3s is a subset. 5L 2s also has the two child scales, which are supersets of 5L 2s:

  • 7L 5s, a chromatic scale produced using soft-of-basic step ratios.
  • 5L 7s, a chromatic scale produced using hard-of-basic step ratios.

12edo contains 5L 2s as the equalized form of both 5L 7s and 7L 5s.

MODMOS scales and muddles

Main article: 5L 2s MODMOSes
 and 5L 2s Muddles

Scala files

Scale tree

Template:Scale tree

See also

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