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Bunya adds 225/224 to the list of commas and may be described as the {{nowrap| 34d & 41 }} temperament. 41edo can again be used as a tuning, in which case it is the same as monkey. However an excellent alternative is 14<sup>1/26</sup> as a generator, giving just ~7's and an improved value for ~5, at the cost of a slightly sharper, but still less than a cent sharp, fifth. Octave stretching, if employed, also serves to distinguish bunya from monkey, as its octaves should be stretched considerably less.
Bunya adds 225/224 to the list of commas and may be described as the {{nowrap| 34d & 41 }} temperament. 41edo can again be used as a tuning, in which case it is the same as monkey. However an excellent alternative is 14<sup>1/26</sup> as a generator, giving just ~7's and an improved value for ~5, at the cost of a slightly sharper, but still less than a cent sharp, fifth. Octave stretching, if employed, also serves to distinguish bunya from monkey, as its octaves should be stretched considerably less.


Since the generator in all cases is between 10/9 and 11/10, it is natural to extend these temperaments to the 11-limit by tempering out (10/9)/(11/10) = [[100/99]]. This gives 11-limit monkey and 11-limit bunya. Again, 41edo can be used as a tuning, making the two identical, which is also the case if we turn to the 2.3.5.11 subgroup temperament, dispensing with 7. However, 11-limit bunya, like 7-limit bunya, profits a little from a slightly sharper fifth, such as the 14<sup>1/26</sup> generator supplies, or even sharper yet, as for instance by the val {{val| 355 563 823 997 1230 }}, with a 52/355 generator.
Since the generator in all cases is between 10/9 and 11/10, it is natural to extend these temperaments to the 11-limit by tempering out (10/9)/(11/10) = [[100/99]]. This gives 11-limit monkey and 11-limit bunya. Again, 41edo can be used as a tuning, making the two identical, which is also the case if we turn to the [[2.3.5.11 subgroup|2.3.5.11-subgroup]] temperament, dispensing with 7. However, 11-limit bunya, like 7-limit bunya, profits a little from a slightly sharper fifth, such as the 14<sup>1/26</sup> generator supplies, or even sharper yet, as for instance by the val {{val| 355 563 823 997 1230 }}, with a 52/355 generator.


Since [[16/13]] is shy of (10/9)<sup>2</sup> by just [[325/324]], it is likewise natural to extend our winning streak with these temperaments by adding this to the list of commas. This gives us 13-limit monkey and 13-limit bunya. Once again, 41edo is recommended as a tuning for monkey, while bunya can with advantage tune the fifth sharper: 17\116 as a generator with a fifth a cent and a half sharp or 11\75 with a fifth two cents sharp.
Since [[16/13]] is shy of (10/9)<sup>2</sup> by just [[325/324]], it is likewise natural to extend our winning streak with these temperaments by adding this to the list of commas. This gives us 13-limit monkey and 13-limit bunya. Once again, 41edo is recommended as a tuning for monkey, while bunya can with advantage tune the fifth sharper: 17\116 as a generator with a fifth a cent and a half sharp or 11\75 with a fifth two cents sharp.
==== Subgroup extensions ====
As discussed above, tetracot works well for the 2.3.5.11.13 subgroup, in which it tempers out 100/99, 144/143 and 243/242, considered right below. The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of this temperament is {[[243/242|S9/S11]], [[100/99|S10]], [[144/143|S12]]}.


=== 2.3.5.11 subgroup ===
=== 2.3.5.11 subgroup ===
As discussed above, tetracot works well for the 2.3.5.11.13 subgroup, in which it tempers out 100/99, 144/143 and 243/242.
The [[S-expression]]-based comma list of this temperament is {[[243/242|S9/S11]], [[100/99|S10]]}.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11


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Badness (Sintel): 0.489
Badness (Sintel): 0.489
=== 2.3.5.13 subgroup ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.13
Comma list: 325/324, 512/507
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 1 4 | 0 4 9 -2 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.8502{{c}}, ~10/9 = 176.2195{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/9 = 176.2975{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 20c, 27, 34, 245bff, 279bfff }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.551


== Monkey ==
== Monkey ==
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== Other subgroup extensions ==
== Other subgroup extensions ==
=== Tetracot (2.3.5.13) ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.13
Comma list: 325/324, 512/507
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 1 4 | 0 4 9 -2 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.8502{{c}}, ~10/9 = 176.2195{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/9 = 176.2975{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 20c, 27, 34, 245bff, 279bfff }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.551
=== Devisemi (2.3.5.19) ===
=== Devisemi (2.3.5.19) ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.19
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.19
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{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 3 | 0 8 18 0 0 0 0 17 }}
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 3 | 0 8 18 0 0 0 0 17 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~20/19
: mapping generators: ~2, ~20/19


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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.30
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.30


==== 2.3.5.7.19 subgroup ====
=== Devisemi (2.3.5.7.19) ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.19
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.19