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{{Infobox Interval

| Name = mavka comma

| Name = mavka comma, archagallisma

| Color name = ~~trisu~~-agu ~~negative 2nd~~

| Color name = 17u<sup>3</sup>g-2, Trisu-agu comma

| Comma = yes

}}

'''24576/24565''', the '''mavka comma''' or '''archagallisma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[17-limit]] [[comma]] measuring about 0.775 [[cents]]. It is the difference between [[256/255]] and [[289/288]] – two adjacent [[square superparticular]]s, making it an [[ultraparticular]], and identifies itself as the amount by which a stack of three [[17/16]]'s fall short of a [[6/5]] minor third. It can be factored into ([[4096/4095]])⋅([[4914/4913]]).

'''~~24576/24565~~''', the '''~~mavka comma~~'''~~, is an unnoticeable 17~~-~~limit comma that represents~~ the ~~difference between two adjacent~~ [[~~square superparticular~~]]~~s –~~ [[~~289~~/~~288~~]] ~~and~~ [[~~256~~/~~255~~]], [[~~Square superparticular#Sk~~/~~S(k + 1~~) (~~ultraparticulars~~)~~|therefore~~]], ~~it is~~ the ~~amount by which a stack~~ of ~~three~~ [[17/16]]'s ~~fall short~~ of a [[~~6/5~~]] ~~minor third~~. ~~It is also the amount by which~~ a ~~stack~~ of ~~two~~ [[~~128/85~~]]~~'s octave-reduced exceeds~~ [[~~17/15~~]].

== Temperaments ==

[[Tempering out]] this comma in the full [[17-limit]] results in the rank-6 '''mavka''' a.k.a. '''archagallismic''' temperament, or in the 2.3.5.17 subgroup, the rank-3 '''archagallic''' temperament. You may find a list of good equal temperaments supporting them below. The rank-6 temperament can be thought of as being equivalent to the [[17-limit]] with the exception that 5/4 is reached by going down by 17/16 three times, starting at 3/2. In other words, [[5/4]] = ([[3/2]])/([[17/16]])<sup>3</sup>. Similarly, archagallic can be thought of as the 2.3.5.17 subgroup with that same equivalence (so that it is essentially being expressed through 2.3.17).

If we retract it to the 2.75.85 subgroup, we get the rank-2 [[MVP archagall]] temperament, which can be extended to the 2.75.9/7.85 subgroup as [[archagall]]. This has its own, more complex mapping of prime 5 at +13 charismic fourths ([[85/64]]'s) octave reduced, resulting in [[prime archagall]], an extension of [[fifthplus]].

Finally, tempering out 256/255 and/or 289/288 results in a lower-accuracy temperament, [[srutal archagall]], of the [[diaschismic family]].

=== Archagallic ===

[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.17

~~It can be factored into~~ [[~~4096/4095~~]] ~~× [[4914~~/~~4913]].~~

[[Comma list]]: 24576/24565

== ~~Temperaments~~ ==

~~By tempering it out~~, ~~the rank-6 '''mavka temperament''' is defined~~.

: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~17/16

[[Optimal tuning]]s:

* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9692{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9798{{c}}, ~17/16 = 105.1973{{c}}

* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9799{{c}}, ~17/16 = 105.2003{{c}}

~~Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17~~

{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 12, 22, 34, 80, 103, 115, 125, 137, 159, 171, 354, 376, 388, 559, 1882, 2441g, 3000g, 6559gg, 9559cggg }}

~~Mapping~~:

[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.127

[ ~~⟨ 1 0 1 0 0 0 4~~ ]

=== Mavka a.k.a. archagallismic ===

[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

~~⟨ 0 1 1 0 0 0 0~~ ]

[[Comma list]]: 24576/24565

⟨ 0 0 3 0 0 0 -1 ]

{| class="right-all"

|-

| [⟨ || 1 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 4 || ],

|-

| ⟨ || 0 || 1 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || ],

|-

| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || -3 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || ],

|-

| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || ],

|-

| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || ]]

|}

: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~17/16, ~7, ~11, ~13

~~⟨ 0 0 0 1 0 0 0~~ ]

[[Optimal tuning]]s:

* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9692{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9798{{c}}, ~17/16 = 105.1973{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.8875{{c}}, ~11/8 = 551.4103{{c}}, ~13/8 = 840.6200{{c}}

* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9799{{c}}, ~17/16 = 105.2003{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.8842{{c}}, ~11/8 = 551.3897{{c}}, ~13/8 = 840.6045{{c}}

~~⟨ 0 0 0 0~~ 1 ~~0 0 ]~~

{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 58, 80, 103, 137, 149, 159, 171, 183, 217, 296, 320, 342f, 354, 400, 422, 525, 571, 581, 742, 764, 935, 1084, 1106, 1323, 1506, 3593g, 3947eg, 5053fgg, 6559defgg, 8065cdefggg, 10152cdeffgggg }}.

~~⟨ 0 0 0 0 0 1 0~~ ] ⟩

[[Badness]] (Sintel): 15.8

~~{{Val list|legend~~=~~1| 46, 58, 80, 103, 137, 149, 159, 171, 183, 217, 296, 320, 342f, 354, 400, 422, 525, 571, 581, 742, 764, 935, 1084, 1106, 1323, 1506, 3593g, 3947eg, 5053fgg, 6559defgg, 8065cdefggg~~, ~~10152cdeffgggg }}~~.

== Etymology ==

The mavka comma was named by [[Eliora]] in 2022. Its other name ''archagallismic comma'' derives from ''archagall'', the esoteric subgroup temperament named by [[Scott Dakota]] earlier.

[[Category:Mavka]]

[[Category:Commas with unknown etymology]]

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 {{Infobox Interval
-| Name = mavka comma
+| Name = mavka comma, archagallisma
-| Color name = trisu-agu negative 2nd
+| Color name = 17u<sup>3</sup>g-2, Trisu-agu comma
 | Comma = yes
 }}
+'''24576/24565''', the '''mavka comma''' or '''archagallisma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[17-limit]] [[comma]] measuring about 0.775 [[cents]]. It is the difference between [[256/255]] and [[289/288]] – two adjacent [[square superparticular]]s, making it an [[ultraparticular]], and identifies itself as the amount by which a stack of three [[17/16]]'s fall short of a [[6/5]] minor third. It can be factored into ([[4096/4095]])⋅([[4914/4913]]).
-'''24576/24565''', the '''mavka comma''', is an unnoticeable 17-limit comma that represents the difference between two adjacent [[square superparticular]]s – [[289/288]] and [[256/255]], [[Square superparticular#Sk/S(k + 1) (ultraparticulars)|therefore]], it is the amount by which a stack of three [[17/16]]'s fall short of a [[6/5]] minor third. It is also the amount by which a stack of two [[128/85]]'s octave-reduced exceeds [[17/15]].
+== Temperaments ==
+[[Tempering out]] this comma in the full [[17-limit]] results in the rank-6 '''mavka''' a.k.a. '''archagallismic''' temperament, or in the 2.3.5.17 subgroup, the rank-3 '''archagallic''' temperament. You may find a list of good equal temperaments supporting them below. The rank-6 temperament can be thought of as being equivalent to the [[17-limit]] with the exception that 5/4 is reached by going down by 17/16 three times, starting at 3/2. In other words, [[5/4]] = ([[3/2]])/([[17/16]])<sup>3</sup>. Similarly, archagallic can be thought of as the 2.3.5.17 subgroup with that same equivalence (so that it is essentially being expressed through 2.3.17).
+If we retract it to the 2.75.85 subgroup, we get the rank-2 [[MVP archagall]] temperament, which can be extended to the 2.75.9/7.85 subgroup as [[archagall]]. This has its own, more complex mapping of prime 5 at +13 charismic fourths ([[85/64]]'s) octave reduced, resulting in [[prime archagall]], an extension of [[fifthplus]].
+Finally, tempering out 256/255 and/or 289/288 results in a lower-accuracy temperament, [[srutal archagall]], of the [[diaschismic family]].
+=== Archagallic ===
+[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.17
-It can be factored into [[4096/4095]] × [[4914/4913]].
+[[Comma list]]: 24576/24565
-== Temperaments ==
+{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 1 2 4 | 0 1 1 0 | 0 0 -3 1 }}
-By tempering it out, the rank-6 '''mavka temperament''' is defined.
+: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~17/16
+[[Optimal tuning]]s:
+* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9692{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9798{{c}}, ~17/16 = 105.1973{{c}}
+* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9799{{c}}, ~17/16 = 105.2003{{c}}
-Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
+{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 12, 22, 34, 80, 103, 115, 125, 137, 159, 171, 354, 376, 388, 559, 1882, 2441g, 3000g, 6559gg, 9559cggg }}
-Mapping:
+[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.127
-[ ⟨	1	0	1	0	0	0	4	]
+=== Mavka a.k.a. archagallismic ===
+[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
-⟨	0	1	1	0	0	0	0	]
+[[Comma list]]: 24576/24565
-⟨	0	0	3	0	0	0	-1	]
+{| class="right-all"
+|-
+| [⟨ || 1 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 4 || ],
+|-
+| ⟨ || 0 || 1 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || ],
+|-
+| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || -3 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || ],
+|-
+| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || ],
+|-
+| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || ]]
+|}
+: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~17/16, ~7, ~11, ~13
-⟨	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	]
+[[Optimal tuning]]s:
+* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9692{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9798{{c}}, ~17/16 = 105.1973{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.8875{{c}}, ~11/8 = 551.4103{{c}}, ~13/8 = 840.6200{{c}}
+* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.9799{{c}}, ~17/16 = 105.2003{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.8842{{c}}, ~11/8 = 551.3897{{c}}, ~13/8 = 840.6045{{c}}
-⟨	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	]
+{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 46, 58, 80, 103, 137, 149, 159, 171, 183, 217, 296, 320, 342f, 354, 400, 422, 525, 571, 581, 742, 764, 935, 1084, 1106, 1323, 1506, 3593g, 3947eg, 5053fgg, 6559defgg, 8065cdefggg, 10152cdeffgggg }}.
-⟨	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	] ⟩
+[[Badness]] (Sintel): 15.8
-{{Val list|legend=1| 46, 58, 80, 103, 137, 149, 159, 171, 183, 217, 296, 320, 342f, 354, 400, 422, 525, 571, 581, 742, 764, 935, 1084, 1106, 1323, 1506, 3593g, 3947eg, 5053fgg, 6559defgg, 8065cdefggg, 10152cdeffgggg }}.
+== Etymology ==
+The mavka comma was named by [[Eliora]] in 2022. Its other name ''archagallismic comma'' derives from ''archagall'', the esoteric subgroup temperament named by [[Scott Dakota]] earlier.
 [[Category:Mavka]]
+[[Category:Commas with unknown etymology]]