User talk:Eliora

Please remember to link new edo pages from the parent page

Please remember to add a link in the EDO page when you create new edo pages. FloraC (talk) 08:46, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

I thought that only users with certain "criterion of notability" or whatever could do that and EDOs themselves required notablility. Eliora (talk) 11:18, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Please remember. FloraC (talk) 05:47, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Character encoding error?

Hi Eliora, I found an edit on 293edo by you that introduces a placeholder character. Would you please take another look at this? Thanks in advance. --Xenwolf (talk) 17:20, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

I did that on purpose, as a way to propose notation when there is a large consecutive series in a monzo. If another form is required, I will gladly replace the placeholder character with something else. Eliora (talk) 20:55, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, now I see what you mean. I think we should by all means avoid the Unicode special character which is reserved to indicate an encoding error. Using 0 is much better, even if not ideal (superscript notation is unexpectedly switching from mathematical to linguistic meaning). But you are right, coping with zeros is definitely a weakness of the monzo notation.
BTW: didn't you mean [1590 012 293⟩ (alias [1590 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 293⟩) instead? --Xenwolf (talk) 21:39, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

You can ask me for the RTT table instead of trying it yourself

… if you're interested in such a thing before having a thorough understanding of what each part is about. It's important that these tables are correct, consistent, and conforming to a standard in order to be of some utility. FloraC (talk) 11:29, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

... Okay then, whatever standard you are applying Eliora (talk) 13:01, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

You progressed a lot just in a few days. And I appreciate it. FloraC (talk) 14:46, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Eliora (talk) 18:13, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Is "dee" the proposed name of the 41 & 190 temperament?

Or "iranian leap week"? FloraC (talk) 21:54, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

I'd say it's "Dee leap week", because now that I revisit this and think about it, Iranian calendar practice never implied the existence of leap weeks, only 1L 7s leap day cycle occasionally broken by 1L 8s or 1L 6s. Eliora (talk) 08:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Please use the monzo template whenever applicable

So as to reduce additional labor that would arise should we decide to switch to a different notation. To insert one, type for example {{monzo| -4 4 -1 }}, or if you use the visual editor, click Insert → Template. FloraC (talk) 13:31, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

In cases with large EDOs it may not be wholly applicable as the table begins to look unusual. I will use the monzo template as usual, sometimes I just need time to insert it.

Assume the RTT table was what you were talking about, the edo number is only weakly correlated to the total width of the table, and it doesn't have anything to do with how the template works whatsoever. First, the template does nothing but inserting the brackets. Second, the table wraps itself when the it's wide enough. FloraC (talk) 17:01, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Update: I just checked the monzo template and it does prevent line breaks in itself. So from what I see, your argument is actually about allowing line breaks within monzos. For one, I think not allowing it is a net gain for readability, but we should collect more people's inputs for this matter. So plz use the template still, as changing how the template works is much easier. FloraC (talk) 17:27, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I'll use the template and I'll monitor upcoming changes.

About temperaments in edo pages

Reviewing your recent edits in the 298edo page, I find it necessary to help you clear up some misconceptions about temperaments.

First, it doesn't make sense to say an edo is "desolate" of temperaments. In fact, every val supports infinitely many temperaments. The only differences are whether they're named or unnamed, documented or undocumented, notable or not notable.

My other note is that you mentioned "31 & 118 & 298d". It should be pointed out that 31 & 118, 31 & 298d and 118 & 298d are the same temperament in the 7-limit but are three distinct temperaments in the 11-limit, with the first branch named as hemithirds. So you should make it clear what you mean by that. If it's the rank-3 temperament 31 & 118 & 298d at least in the 11-limit, "variant" would be a vague choice of term. "Expansion" is a much clearer description for that relation.

Unrelated but FYI: to enter the cent symbol (¢) if you're in visual editor mode, click on the special character button, which depicts a "Ω", sitting on the same line as "save changes", and it should be in the "symbols" section.

FloraC (talk) 14:55, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Please complete your temperament data

Regarding your recent edit to the mercator family page, please complete your data when adding a new temperament. Specifically, the branch you added started with the 7-limit, so 7-, 11-, 13-limit mappings should be added besides the 17-limit. This way to catalog temperaments may not be ideal, but we haven't found any better alternative yet.

Since you're in the Discord server, I suppose discussing new temperaments with the community is easy for you. Please make sure to do so. Altho I personally approve of this particular temperament's name, the community has requested that new names should go thru a democratic process. Also, you can just ask us to document it for you instead of silently adding incomplete data yourself.

On your addition, first, the mappings of temperaments in this wiki are in the positive generator form, explained in the Normal lists page. Please try to normalize it to this form. Second, a regular whitespace is recommended to separate the entries in the mapping. As you can see, the tab space doesn't have any effect on the wiki.

Sintel's temperament calculator effectively tells you the mapping generators, which was missing in your addition.

I don't know in what measure you got the badness number. I've corrected it. But remember, leaving it empty is better than putting a random number there.

FloraC (talk) 14:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Email protection

Hello! Looks like you've triggered it with some notation using "@". To avoid that, consider replacing those with {{@}} (Template:@). --Plumtree (talk) 21:39, 23 October 2022 (UTC)