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* [[5-odd-limit]]: ~10/9 = {{monzo| -1/9 0 1/9 }} | * [[5-odd-limit]]: ~10/9 = {{monzo| -1/9 0 1/9 }} | ||
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 20c, 27, 34, 75, 109 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 20c, 27, 34, 75, 109 }} | ||
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=== Overview to extensions === | === Overview to extensions === | ||
==== Subgroup extensions ==== | |||
Since the generator in all reasonable tunings is between 10/9 and [[11/10]], it is natural to extend tetracot to the [[11-limit]] by tempering out (10/9)/(11/10) = [[100/99]]. This gives the [[2.3.5.11 subgroup|2.3.5.11-subgroup]] version of tetracot, dispensing with 7. For this, [[41edo]] can be used as a tuning. | |||
Since [[16/13]] is shy of (10/9)<sup>2</sup> by just [[325/324]], it is likewise natural to extend our winning streak by adding this to the list of commas. This gives us [[2.3.5.11.13 subgroup|2.3.5.11.13-subgroup]] tetracot, which tempers out 100/99, [[144/143]] and [[243/242]], with the [[S-expression]]-based comma list {[[243/242|S9/S11]], [[100/99|S10]], [[144/143|S12]]}. | |||
==== Full 7-limit extensions ==== | |||
The second comma of the comma list defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. [[875/864]], the keema, gives monkey. [[225/224]] gives bunya. [[64/63]] gives modus. [[126/125]] gives wollemia. These all use the same generators as tetracot. | |||
[[245/243]] gives octacot, which splits the generator in halves. [[3125/3087]] gives dodecacot, which splits the generator in thirds. [[50/49]] gives weasel, which splits the period in halves. | |||
=== 2.3.5.11 subgroup === | === 2.3.5.11 subgroup === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.11 | ||
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=== | == Monkey == | ||
{{Main| Monkey }} | |||
Monkey tempers out the [[keema]]. The keema, 875/864, is the amount by which three [[6/5|just minor thirds]] fall short of [[7/4]], and tells us the ~7/4 of monkey is reached by three such minor thirds in succession. It can be described as the {{nowrap| 34 & 41 }} temperament. [[41edo]] is an excellent tuning for monkey, and has the effect of making monkey identical to [[#Bunya|bunya]] with the same tuning. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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== Bunya == | == Bunya == | ||
{{Main| Bunya }} | |||
Bunya adds [[225/224]] to the list of commas and may be described as the {{nowrap| 34d & 41 }} temperament. [[41edo]] can again be used as a tuning, in which case it is the same as [[#Monkey|monkey]]. However, bunya profits a little from a slightly sharper fifth. An excellent generator is 14<sup>1/26</sup>, giving just ~7's and an improved value for ~5, at the cost of a slightly sharper but still less-than-a-cent-sharp fifth, or even sharper yet: 17\116 with a fifth a cent and a half sharp, or 11\75 with a fifth two cents sharp. [[Octave stretching]], if employed, also serves to distinguish bunya from monkey, as its octaves should be stretched considerably less. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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== Modus == | == Modus == | ||
Modus | {{Main| Modus }} | ||
Modus tempers out [[64/63]] as well as [[4375/4374]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 27 & 34d }} temperament. While less accurate than [[#Monkey|monkey]] or [[#Bunya|bunya]], it is nonetheless very useful because it is simpler and because of the harmonic puns it possesses. [[27edo]], [[34edo]] and [[61edo]] can all be used as tunings. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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== Wollemia == | == Wollemia == | ||
{{Main| Wollemia }} | |||
Wollemia tempers out [[126/125]] as well as [[2240/2187]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 27 & 34 }} temperament. [[27edo]] may be recommended as a tuning, in which case it is identical to modus with the same tuning. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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{{See also| Chords of octacot }} | {{See also| Chords of octacot }} | ||
Octacot | Octacot splits the difference between the [[#Monkey|monkey]] and [[#Bunya|bunya]] mappings for 7 by cutting the generator in half. It adds [[245/243]] to the normal comma list, and also tempers out [[2401/2400]]. It may also be described as {{nowrap| 41 & 68 }}. [[68edo]] or [[109edo]] can be used as tunings, as can (5/2)<sup>1/18</sup>, which gives just major thirds. Another tuning is [[150edo]], which has a generator, 11\150, of exactly 88 cents. This relates octacot to the [[88cET]] non-octave temperament, which like [[Carlos Alpha]] arguably makes more sense viewed as part of a rank-2 temperament with octaves rather than rank-1 without them. | ||
Once again and for the same reasons, it is natural to add 100/99 and 325/324 to the list of commas. Generators of 3\41, 8\109 and 11\150 (88 cents) are all good choices for the 7, 11 and 13 limits. | Once again and for the same reasons, it is natural to add 100/99 and 325/324 to the list of commas. Generators of 3\41, 8\109 and 11\150 (88 cents) are all good choices for the 7, 11 and 13 limits. | ||
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=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
The canonical mapping finds 13/8 at +15 generators rather than using the regular tetracot mapping, in order to find [[15/13]] as being half of [[4/3]]. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
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=== 17-limit === | ==== 17-limit ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
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=== 19-limit === | ==== 19-limit ==== | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
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=== Weasly === | |||
{{Todo|review|unify precision}} | |||
The alternative extension uses the same mapping of 13 as in tetracot, though many other intervals of 13 take more generators to reach as a result. | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 50/49, 99/98, 144/143, 243/242 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 2 2 3 4 8 | 0 4 9 9 10 -2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~7/5 = 599.285{{c}}, ~10/9 = 175.641{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000{{c}}, ~10/9 = 175.728{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 14c, 20cde, 34d, 48 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.72 | |||
==== 17-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
Comma list: 50/49, 85/84, 99/98, 144/143, 243/242 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 2 2 3 4 8 7 | 0 4 9 9 10 -2 4 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~7/5 = 599.494{{c}}, ~10/9 = 175.613{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000{{c}}, ~10/9 = 175.681{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 14c, 20cde, 34d, 48 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.54 | |||
==== 19-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | |||
Comma list: 50/49, 85/84, 99/98, 144/143, 190/189, 243/242 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 2 2 3 4 8 7 5 | 0 4 9 9 10 -2 4 12}} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~7/5 = 599.464{{c}}, ~10/9 = 175.523{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000{{c}}, ~10/9 = 175.593{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 14c, 34dh, 48 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.48 | |||
== Other subgroup extensions == | == Other subgroup extensions == | ||
=== Tetracot (2.3.5.13) === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.13 | |||
Comma list: 325/324, 512/507 | |||
Subgroup-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 1 4 | 0 4 9 -2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1198.8502{{c}}, ~10/9 = 176.2195{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/9 = 176.2975{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 20c, 27, 34, 245bff, 279bfff }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.551 | |||
=== Devisemi (2.3.5.19) === | === Devisemi (2.3.5.19) === | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.19 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.19 | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 3 | 0 8 18 0 0 0 0 17 }} | {{Mapping|legend=3| 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 3 | 0 8 18 0 0 0 0 17 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~20/19 | : mapping generators: ~2, ~20/19 | ||
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=== | === Devisemi (2.3.5.7.19) === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.19 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.19 | ||