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A '''hemipyth''' (or '''"hemipythagorean"''') interval is an [[interval]] in the <math>\sqrt{2}\,.\sqrt{3}</math> [[subgroup]] i.e. intervals that can be constructed by multiplying half-integer powers of 2 and 3.
A '''hemipyth''' (or '''"hemipythagorean"''') interval is an [[interval]] in the <math>\sqrt{2}\,.\sqrt{3}-</math>[[subgroup]]; i.e. intervals that can be constructed by multiplying half-integer powers of primes [[2/1|2]] and [[3/1|3]]. Hemipythagorean is the pure tuning of [[Ploidacot/Diploid dicot|diploid dicot]].


Notable hemipyth intervals include the neutral third <math>\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}} = \frac{\sqrt{3}}{\sqrt{2}}</math>, semioctave <math>\sqrt{2}</math>, and the semifourth <math>\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}} = \frac{2}{\sqrt{3}}</math>.
Notable hemipyth intervals include the [[neutral third]] <math>\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}} = \frac{\sqrt{3}}{\sqrt{2}}</math>, [[semioctave]] <math>\sqrt{2}</math>, and the [[semifourth]] <math>\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}} = \frac{2}{\sqrt{3}}</math>.


Many temperaments naturally produce intervals that split ~{{sfrac|3|2}}, ~2, or ~{{sfrac|4|3}} exactly in half and can thus be interpreted as neutral thirds, semioctaves, or semifourths within the temperament.
Many temperaments naturally produce intervals that split ~{{sfrac|3|2}}, ~2, or ~{{sfrac|4|3}} exactly in half and can thus be interpreted as neutral thirds, semioctaves, or semifourths within the temperament.
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|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | List of edo mappings with full or partial hemipyth support
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | List of edo mappings with full or partial hemipyth support
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|-
! Edo (warts) !! Has <math>\sqrt{2}</math> !! Has <math>\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> !! Has <math>\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math>
! Edo ([[Wart notation|warts]]) !! Has <math>\sqrt{2}</math> !! Has <math>\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> !! Has <math>\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math>
|-
|-
| 2 || yes || no || no
| [[2edo|2]] || yes || no || no
|-
|-
| 3 || no || yes || no
| [[3edo|3]] || no || yes || no
|-
|-
| 4 || yes || yes || yes
| [[4edo|4]] || yes || yes || yes
|-
|-
| 5 || no || no || yes
| [[5edo|5]] || no || no || yes
|-
|-
| 6 || yes || yes || yes
| [[6edo|6]] || yes || yes || yes
|-
|-
| 7 || no || yes || no
| [[7edo|7]] || no || yes || no
|-
|-
| 8 || yes || no || no
| [[8edo|8]] || yes || no || no
|-
|-
| 9 || no || no || yes
| [[9edo|9]] || no || no || yes
|-
|-
| 10 || yes || yes || yes
| [[10edo|10]] || yes || yes || yes
|-
|-
| 11 || no || yes || no
| [[11edo|11]] || no || yes || no
|-
|-
| 12 || yes || no || no
| [[12edo|12]] || yes || no || no
|-
|-
| 13 || no || yes || no
| [[13edo|13]] || no || yes || no
|-
|-
| 13b || no || no || yes
| 13b || no || no || yes
|-
|-
| 14 || yes || yes || yes
| [[14edo|14]] || yes || yes || yes
|-
|-
| 15 || no || no || yes
| [[15edo|15]] || no || no || yes
|-
|-
| 16 || yes || no || no
| [[16edo|16]] || yes || no || no
|-
|-
| 17 || no || yes || no
| [[17edo|17]] || no || yes || no
|-
|-
| 18 || yes || no || no
| [[18edo|18]] || yes || no || no
|-
|-
| 18b || yes || yes || yes
| 18b || yes || yes || yes
|-
|-
| 19 || no || no || yes
| [[19edo|19]] || no || no || yes
|-
|-
| 20* || yes || yes || yes
| [[20edo|20]]* || yes || yes || yes
|-
|-
| 20b || yes || no || no
| 20b || yes || no || no
|-
|-
| 21 || no || yes || no
| [[21edo|21]] || no || yes || no
|-
|-
| 22 || yes || no || no
| [[22edo|22]] || yes || no || no
|-
|-
| 23 || no || no || yes
| [[23edo|23]] || no || no || yes
|-
|-
| 24 || yes || yes || yes
| [[24edo|24]] || yes || yes || yes
|}
|}


{{asterisk}} Above the patent val of 20edo results in the same tuning as the patent val of 10edo, so it adds nothing new.
<nowiki>*</nowiki> Above the patent val of 20edo results in the same tuning as the patent val of 10edo, so it adds nothing new.


Note how in hemipyth the patent val of 24edo is not tuned the same as 12edo's patent val. In fact 24edo is arguably the smallest edo where all of the important hemipyth intervals are tuned reasonably accurately.
Note how in hemipyth the patent val of 24edo is not tuned the same as 12edo's patent val. In fact, 24edo is arguably the smallest edo where all of the important hemipyth intervals are tuned reasonably accurately.


Other edos with hemipyth-supporting patent vals are 28, 30, 34, 38, 44, 48, 52, 54, 58, etc. 58edo is the first one to reduce the absolute error of the neutral third generator compared to 24edo. You need to go all the way to 82edo in order to get an improvement in terms of relative error.
Other edos with hemipyth-supporting patent vals are {{edos|28, 30, 34, 38, 44, 48, 52, 54, 58}}, etc. 58edo is the first one to reduce the absolute error of the neutral third generator compared to 24edo, though one needs to go all the way to [[82edo]] in order to get an improvement in terms of relative error.


== Notation ==
== Notation ==
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Luckily we don't need to introduce any more generalizations to the notation to indicate <math>\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math>. It's a neutral {{sfrac|2|1|2}} or a α{{demiflat2}} (alp semiflat) w.r.t middle C.
Luckily we don't need to introduce any more generalizations to the notation to indicate <math>\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math>. It's a neutral {{sfrac|2|1|2}} or a α{{demiflat2}} (alp semiflat) w.r.t middle C.


Nicknames are still assigned to make it easier to talk about the [[5L&nbsp;4s]] scale generated by <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math> against the octave.
Nicknames are still assigned to make it easier to talk about the [[5L&nbsp;4s]] scale generated by <math>\sim\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math> against the octave.


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The neutral third receives only half of the tuning damage of the fifth so it has a strong character even if the fifth isn't tuned very pure. The irrational nature of <math>\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> also makes it more tolerant of imprecise tuning.
The neutral third receives only half of the tuning damage of the fifth so it has a strong character even if the fifth isn't tuned very pure. The irrational nature of <math>\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> also makes it more tolerant of imprecise tuning.


The same goes for the semifourth. A poorly tuned ~{{sfrac|4|3}} still results in a decent <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math> (assuming it's featured in the tuning in the first place).
The same goes for the semifourth. A poorly tuned ~{{sfrac|4|3}} still results in a decent <math>\sim\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math> (assuming it's featured in the tuning in the first place).


=== Signposts ===
=== Signposts ===
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== Temperament interpretations ==
== Temperament interpretations ==
Under [[ploidacot]] classification diploid temperaments feature <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{2}</math>, dicot temperaments have <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> and alpha-dicot temperaments feature <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math> (by virtue of having a <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{3}</math>).
Under [[ploidacot]] classification diploid temperaments feature <math>\sim\sqrt{2}</math>, dicot temperaments have <math>\sim\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> and alpha-dicot temperaments feature <math>\sim\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math> (by virtue of having a <math>\sim\sqrt{3}</math>).


Full hemipyth support is indicated by at least "diploid dicot". Examples include:
Full hemipyth support is indicated by at least "diploid dicot". Examples include:
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|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Higher-prime interpretations of hemipyth intervals
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Higher-prime interpretations of hemipyth intervals
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! Temperament !! <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{2}</math> !! <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> !! <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math> !! contorted !! rank-2
! Temperament !! <math>\sim\sqrt{2}</math> !! <math>\sim\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> !! <math>\sim\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}</math> !! contorted !! rank-2
|-
|-
| [[decimal]] || ~{{sfrac|7|5}} || ~{{sfrac|5|4}} || ~{{sfrac|7|6}} || no || yes
| [[decimal]] || ~{{sfrac|7|5}} || ~{{sfrac|5|4}} || ~{{sfrac|7|6}} || no || yes
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| [[hemidim]] || ~{{sfrac|36|25}} || ~{{sfrac|25|21}} || ~{{sfrac|7|6}} || yes || yes
| [[hemidim]] || ~{{sfrac|36|25}} || ~{{sfrac|25|21}} || ~{{sfrac|7|6}} || yes || yes
|-
|-
| [[greenland]] || ~{{sfrac|99|70}} || ~{{sfrac|49|40}} || ~{{sfrac|15|13}}~{{sfrac|231|200}} || no || no
| [[baldur]]|| ~{{sfrac|99|70}} || ~{{sfrac|49|40}} || ~{{sfrac|231|200}} || no || no
|-
|-
| [[semisema]] || ~{{sfrac|108|77}} || ~{{sfrac|11|9}} || ~{{sfrac|7|6}} || no || yes
| [[semisema]] || ~{{sfrac|108|77}} || ~{{sfrac|11|9}} || ~{{sfrac|7|6}} || no || yes
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|}


Above contorted tunings don't have a <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{2}</math> period with a <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{3}</math> generator, but introduce further splits. Higher than rank-2 temperaments introduce further structure that goes beyond basic hemipyth.
Above contorted tunings don't have a <math>\sim\sqrt{2}</math> period with a <math>\sim\sqrt{3}</math> generator, but introduce further splits. Higher than rank-2 temperaments introduce further structure that goes beyond basic hemipyth.


Some possible interpretations for <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{2}</math> are:
Some possible interpretations for <math>\sim\sqrt{2}</math> are:


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{| class="wikitable"
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Higher-prime interpretations of <math>\sqrt{2}</math>
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Higher-prime interpretations of <math>\sqrt{2}</math>
|-
|-
! Temperament !! <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{2}</math> !! contorted !! rank-2
! Temperament !! <math>\sim\sqrt{2}</math> !! contorted !! rank-2
|-
|-
| [[jubilic]] || ~{{sfrac|7|5}} || no || yes (2.5.7)
| [[jubilic]] || ~{{sfrac|7|5}} || no || yes (2.5.7)
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| [[semitonic]] || ~{{sfrac|17|12}} || no || yes (2.3.17)
| [[semitonic]] || ~{{sfrac|17|12}} || no || yes (2.3.17)
|-
|-
| [[kalismic temperaments|kalismic]] || ~{{sfrac|99|70}} || no || no
| [[kalismic temperaments|kalismic]] || ~{{sfrac|99|70}} || no || no (2.3.5.7.11)
|}
|}


Some possible interpretations for <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{3}</math> are:
Some possible interpretations for <math>\sim\sqrt{3}</math> are:


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{| class="wikitable"
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Higher-prime interpretations of <math>\sqrt{3}</math>
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Higher-prime interpretations of <math>\sqrt{3}</math>
|-
|-
! Temperament !! <math>\sim\vsp\sqrt{3}</math> !! contorted !! rank-2
! Temperament !! <math>\sim\sqrt{3}</math> !! contorted !! rank-2
|-
|-
| [[semaphore]] || ~{{sfrac|7|4}} || no || yes (2.3.7)
| [[semaphore]] || ~{{sfrac|7|4}} || no || yes (2.3.7)
|-
|-
| [[barbados]] || ~{{sfrac|26|15}} || no || yes (2.3.{{sfrac|13|5}})
| [[barbados]] || ~{{sfrac|26|15}} || no || yes (2.3.{{sfrac|13|5}})
|-
|[[Catalog of rank-4 temperaments#Seascape (160083/160000)|seascape]]
|~{{sfrac|400|231}}
|no
|no (2.3.5.7.11)
|}
|}


Some possible interpretations for <math>\sim\vsp\frac{3}{2}</math> are:
Some possible interpretations for <math>\sim\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> are:


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Higher-prime interpretations of <math>\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math>
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Higher-prime interpretations of <math>\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math>
|-
|-
! Temperament !! <math>\sqrt{~\frac{3}{2}}</math> !! contorted !! rank-2
! Temperament !! <math>\sim\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}</math> !! contorted !! rank-2
|-
|-
| [[dicot]] || ~{{sfrac|5|4}} || no || yes (2.3.5)
| [[dicot]] || ~{{sfrac|5|4}} || no || yes (2.3.5)
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| [[Rastmic clan#Neutral|neutral]] || ~{{sfrac|11|9}} || no || yes (2.3.11)
| [[Rastmic clan#Neutral|neutral]] || ~{{sfrac|11|9}} || no || yes (2.3.11)
|-
|-
| [[jove]] || ~{{sfrac|11|9}}~{{sfrac|49|40}} || no || no
| [[Breed family#Breed|breed]]|| ~{{sfrac|49|40}} || no || no (2.3.5.7)
|-
|[[Very high accuracy temperaments#Euzenius|euzenius]]
|~{{sfrac|6250|5103}}
|no
|no (2.3.5.7)
|}
|}


== MOS patterns ==
== MOS patterns ==
By default hemipyth[n] refers to a [[MOS]] pattern of size n inside the octave i.e. there are always two periods per octave. The generator is √3 unless otherwise stated.
{{Idiosyncratic terms|The mos names for hemipyth[14], hemipyth[24], and hemipyth[34] are proposals described on [[TAMNAMS_Extension #Naming mos descendants]].}}
By default hemipyth[n] refers to a [[MOS]] pattern of size n inside the octave i.e. there are always two √2 periods per octave. The generator is √3 unless otherwise stated.


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | MOS patterns of hemipyth
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | MOS patterns of hemipyth
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! hemipyth[n] !! MOS pattern !! hardness (untempered)
! hemipyth[n]  
! TAMNAMS name !! MOS pattern !! hardness (untempered)
|-
| hemipyth[4]
| biwood || [[2L 2s]] || 1.4094
|-
| hemipyth[6]
| citric || [[4L 2s]] || 2.4424
|-
| hemipyth[10]
| lime || [[4L 6s]] || 1.4424
|-
| hemipyth[14]
| m-chro lime || [[10L 4s]] || 2.260
|-
|-
| hemipyth[4] || [[2L 2s]] || 1.41
| hemipyth[24]  
| f-enhar lime || [[10L 14s]] || 1.260
|-
|-
| hemipyth[6] || [[4L 2s]] || 2.44
| hemipyth[34]
| paso-lime
| [[24L 10s]]
| 3.8459
|-
|-
| hemipyth[10] || [[4L 6s]] || 1.44
| hemipyth[58]
|  
| [[24L 34s]]
| 2.8459
|-
|-
| hemipyth[14] || [[10L 4s]] || 2.26
| hemipyth[82]
|  
| [[24L 58s]]
| 1.8459
|-
|-
| hemipyth[24] || [[10L 14s]] || 1.26
| hemipyth[106]
|  
| [[82L 24s]]
| 1.1822
|}
|}


== Music ==
== Music ==
{{todo|inline-1| Make more music }}
[[File:The_Hymn_of_Pergele.mp3]]
[[File:The_Hymn_of_Pergele.mp3]]


The Hymn of Pergele, a short piece in {{nowrap|[[Hemipyth]][10] 4{{!}}4(2)}} (Pacific mode of [[4L&nbsp;6s]]), written by [[User:2^67-1|Cole]].
The Hymn of Pergele, a short piece in {{nowrap|[[Hemipyth]][10] 4{{!}}4(2)}} (Pacific mode of [[4L&nbsp;6s]]), written by [[User:2^67-1|Cole]].
== See also ==
* [[Hemipent]] – √2.√3.√5 subgroup


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