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Following [[EDO]]s (up to 200) contain good approximations<ref>error magnitude below 7, both, absolute (in ¢) and relative (in r¢)</ref> of the interval 5/4. Errors are given by magnitude, the arrows in the table show if the EDO representation is sharp (↑) or flat (↓). | Following [[EDO]]s (up to 200, and also 730) contain good approximations<ref>error magnitude below 7, both, absolute (in ¢) and relative (in r¢)</ref> of the interval 5/4. Errors are given by magnitude, the arrows in the table show if the EDO representation is sharp (↑) or flat (↓). | ||
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! Relative <br> error ([[Relative cent|r¢]]) | ! Relative <br> error ([[Relative cent|r¢]]) | ||
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! class="unsortable" | Equally acceptable multiples <ref>Super EDOs up to 200 within the same error tolerance</ref> | ! class="unsortable" | Equally acceptable multiples <ref>Super EDOs up to 200 (and 730) within the same error tolerance</ref> | ||
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| [[25edo|25]] || 8\25 || 2.3137 || 4.8202 || ↓ || | | [[25edo|25]] || 8\25 || 2.3137 || 4.8202 || ↓ || | ||
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| [[199edo|199]] || 64\199 || 0.3841 || 6.3691 || ↓ || | | [[199edo|199]] || 64\199 || 0.3841 || 6.3691 || ↓ || | ||
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| [[730edo|730]] || 235\730 || 0.0123 || 0.7509 || ↓ || | |||
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Revision as of 16:23, 13 December 2020
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In 5-limit Just Intonation, 5/4 is the frequency ratio between the 5th and 4th harmonics. It has been called the just major third or classic major third to distinguish it from other intervals in that neighborhood. Measuring about 386.3¢, it is about 13.7¢ away from 12edo's major third of 400¢. It has a distinctive "sweet" sound, and has been described as more "laid back" than its 12edo counterpart. Providing a novel consonance after 3, it is the basis for 5-limit harmony. It is distinguished from the Pythagorean major third of 81/64 by the syntonic comma of 81/80, which measures about 21.5¢. 81/64 and 5/4 are both just intonation "major thirds", 81/64 having a more active and discordant quality, 5/4 sounding more "restful".
In the context of the harmonic series, 5/4 can be heard between the 4th and 5th member of the series, demonstrated here melodically in singing into a resonant udderbot (from the fundamental up to 5 and then noodling between 5 and 4).
Approximations by EDOs
Following EDOs (up to 200, and also 730) contain good approximations[1] of the interval 5/4. Errors are given by magnitude, the arrows in the table show if the EDO representation is sharp (↑) or flat (↓).
EDO | deg\edo | Absolute error (¢) |
Relative error (r¢) |
↕ | Equally acceptable multiples [2] |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
25 | 8\25 | 2.3137 | 4.8202 | ↓ | |
28 | 9\28 | 0.5994 | 1.3987 | ↓ | 18\56, 27\84, 36\112, 45\140, |
31 | 10\31 | 0.7831 | 2.0229 | ↑ | 20\62, 30\93, |
34 | 11\34 | 1.9216 | 5.4445 | ↑ | |
53 | 17\53 | 1.4081 | 6.2189 | ↓ | |
59 | 19\59 | 0.1270 | 0.6242 | ↑ | 38\118, 57\177, |
87 | 28\87 | 0.1068 | 0.7744 | ↓ | 56\174, |
90 | 29\90 | 0.3530 | 2.6471 | ↑ | 58\180, |
115 | 37\115 | 0.2268 | 2.1731 | ↓ | |
121 | 39\121 | 0.4631 | 4.6701 | ↑ | |
143 | 46\143 | 0.2997 | 3.5718 | ↓ | |
146 | 47\146 | 0.0123 | 0.1502 | ↓ | |
149 | 48\149 | 0.2635 | 3.2714 | ↑ | |
152 | 49\152 | 0.5284 | 6.6930 | ↑ | |
171 | 55\171 | 0.3488 | 4.9704 | ↓ | |
199 | 64\199 | 0.3841 | 6.3691 | ↓ | |
730 | 235\730 | 0.0123 | 0.7509 | ↓ |
See also
- 8/5 – its octave complement
- 6/5 – its fifth complement
- 5/2 – the interval plus one octave sounds even more consonant
- Gallery of Just Intervals
- Major third - Wikipedia
- File:5-4.mp3 – another sound sample