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The '''2.3.5.11 subgroup''' is a [[just intonation subgroup]] consisting of [[rational interval]]s where 2, 3, 5, and 11 are the only allowable [[prime factor]]s, so that every such interval may be written as a ratio of integers which are products of 2, 3, 5 and 11. This is an infinite set and still infinite even if we restrict consideration to a single octave. Some examples within the [[octave]] include [[5/4]], [[3/2]], [[11/8]], [[11/9]], [[27/22]], and so on. | The '''2.3.5.11 subgroup''' (AKA as ''yala'' in [[color notation]]) is a [[just intonation subgroup]] consisting of [[rational interval]]s where 2, 3, 5, and 11 are the only allowable [[prime factor]]s, so that every such interval may be written as a ratio of integers which are products of 2, 3, 5 and 11. This is an infinite set and still infinite even if we restrict consideration to a single octave. Some examples within the [[octave]] include [[5/4]], [[3/2]], [[11/8]], [[11/9]], [[27/22]], and so on. | ||
In can be thought as either an extension of [[Alpharabian tuning]] with the familiar 5-limit chords and stuctures, or a retraction of the 11-limit by removing prime 7. It can be similar to the [[2.3.5.13 subgroup]], specially considering neutral interval pairs such as 39/32 ~ 11/9 and 16/13 ~ 27/22, which are connected by the small comma of [[352/351]]. | In can be thought as either an extension of [[Alpharabian tuning]] with the familiar 5-limit chords and stuctures, or a retraction of the 11-limit by removing prime 7. It can be similar to the [[2.3.5.13 subgroup]], specially considering neutral interval pairs such as 39/32 ~ 11/9 and 16/13 ~ 27/22, which are connected by the small comma of [[352/351]]. | ||
Revision as of 09:53, 19 April 2026
The 2.3.5.11 subgroup (AKA as yala in color notation) is a just intonation subgroup consisting of rational intervals where 2, 3, 5, and 11 are the only allowable prime factors, so that every such interval may be written as a ratio of integers which are products of 2, 3, 5 and 11. This is an infinite set and still infinite even if we restrict consideration to a single octave. Some examples within the octave include 5/4, 3/2, 11/8, 11/9, 27/22, and so on.
In can be thought as either an extension of Alpharabian tuning with the familiar 5-limit chords and stuctures, or a retraction of the 11-limit by removing prime 7. It can be similar to the 2.3.5.13 subgroup, specially considering neutral interval pairs such as 39/32 ~ 11/9 and 16/13 ~ 27/22, which are connected by the small comma of 352/351.
Regular temperaments
Rank-1 temperaments (edos)
The 2.3.5.11 subgroup is relatively well approximated by the following edos (decreasing TE error, bold ones do particularly well in this subgroup): 7, 12, 15, 19, 22, 31, 34, 41, 46, 53, 65, 87, 118, 152, 224, 270, 335, 342, …
Rank-2 temperaments
Schismic provides two reasonable aproximations to the 2.3.5.11 subgroup, one by finding 11/8 at the triple-augmented second (+23 fifths) through the cassandra mapping, and another by finding 11/8 at the quadruple-diminished seventh (-30 fifths) through the helenus mapping. Helenus, 53 & 65, provides a much better approximation to the subgroup, as both 5 and 11 are generated in the same direction.
Gravity also provides a very natural approximation to the 2.3.5.11 subgroup, having ~40/27 as the generator, and finding 3/2 at -6 gens, 5/4 at -17 gens and 11/8 at -15 gens. It is the unique temperament in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup equating S9 = 81/80, S10 = 100/99, and S11 = 121/120, thus tempering out 243/242, 4000/3993, and 8019/8000. 65edo is the unique intersection of schismic (helenus) and gravity, and thus has, for its size, great approximations to the subgroup.
Rank-3 temperaments
Vishdel provides a low-complexity, accurate temperament, but for those searching a much higher accuracy system, tritomere is among the best rank-3 temperaments for this case, having tremendous accuracy with manageable complexity, tempering out the difference between three rastmas and one syntonic comma (0.08 cents). Its boundary of usability begins at 152 and 159edo, the latter inheriting the marvelous fifths from 53edo, one that Aura has shown great interest in. Bigger edos that support this excellent temperament include 342edo, 494edo, 677edo, 1171edo, among others.