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[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.311{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.540{{c}}, ~7/4 = 971.553{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.3113{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.5404{{c}}, ~7/4 = 971.5534{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.393{{c}}, ~7/4 = 971.520{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.689 +1.849 +1.350 -2.061 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.3935{{c}}, ~7/4 = 971.5196{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +3.080 +2.694 -1.011 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 6, 15, 21, 22, 25, 28, 31, 37, 163c, 200cd, 237cd, 274cd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 6, 15, 21, 22, 25, 28, 31, 37, 163c, 200cd, 237cd, 274cd }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.079
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.0793


=== Overview to extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
The second comma in the comma list determines how we extend the no-3 subgroup temperament to include the harmonic 3. Zeus adds [[121/120]] as well as 385/384, and shares the same lattice structure as no-3 valinorsmic. Julius, a.k.a. varda, adds [[896/891]], slicing the first generator in two with a semi-octave period. Nickel adds [[36/35]] as well as [[45/44]]. Ares adds [[64/63]]. Minerva adds [[99/98]]. Thrush adds [[126/125]]. These slice the last generator in two. Guanyin adds [[540/539]], slicing the first generator in three. Manwe adds [[1331/1323]], slicing the last generator in three. Clio adds [[81/80]], slicing the first generator in four. Lono adds [[5120/5103]], slicing the last generator in six. Mandos adds [[243/242]]. Shrusus adds [[245/243]]. These slice the last generator in five. Ulmo adds [[2200/2187]], slicing the last generator in seven. Finally, draco adds [[19683/19600]], slicing the last generator in nine. Most of these have neat extensions to the 13-limit via tempering out both [[351/350]] and [[352/351]].  
The second comma in the comma list determines how we extend the no-3 subgroup temperament to include the harmonic 3. Zeus adds [[121/120]] as well as 385/384, and shares the same lattice structure as no-3 valinorsmic. Varda, adds [[896/891]], slicing the first generator in two with a semi-octave period. Nickel adds [[36/35]] as well as [[45/44]]. Ares adds [[64/63]]. Minerva adds [[99/98]]. Thrush adds [[126/125]]. These slice the last generator in two. Guanyin adds [[540/539]], slicing the first generator in three. Manwe adds [[1331/1323]], slicing the last generator in three. Clio adds [[81/80]], slicing the first generator in four. Lono adds [[5120/5103]], slicing the last generator in six. Mandos adds [[243/242]]. Shrusus adds [[245/243]]. These slice the last generator in five. Ulmo adds [[2200/2187]], slicing the last generator in seven. Finally, draco adds [[19683/19600]], slicing the last generator in nine. Most of these have natural extensions to the [[13-limit]] via tempering out both [[351/350]] and [[352/351]].  


Discussed elsewhere are:  
Discussed elsewhere are:  
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[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.360{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.695{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.312{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.3600{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.6947{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.3118{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.592{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.376{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.640 +0.100 +1.718 +1.467 -2.401 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.5916{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.3756{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.637 +3.062 +2.696 -1.045 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 31, 46, 77, 80, 111 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 15, 28de, 31, 46, 65d, 77, 80, 111, 237cd, 268cd }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.816
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.816
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1199.435{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.506{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.233{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.4350{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.5061{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.2327{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.703{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.430{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.7030{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.4303{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 46, 77, 80, 111 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 31, 46, 65d, 77, 80, 111, 268cd }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.073
Badness (Sintel): 1.07


== Augenic ==
== Augenic ==
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[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~5/4 = 398.924{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.145{{c}}, ~7/4 = 969.111{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~5/4 = 398.9239{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.1447{{c}}, ~7/4 = 969.1106{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~5/4 = 400.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.349{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.440{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.228 -0.039 +6.153 -6.172 +9.184 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~5/4 = 400.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.3488{{c}}, ~7/4 = 968.4397{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +3.394 +13.686 -0.386 +17.122 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 6, 9, 12, 15, 24, 27e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 6, 9, 12, 15, 24, 27e, 51ce, 63cee }} *
 
<nowiki/>* [[optimal patent val]]: [[36edo|36]]


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.735
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.735

Revision as of 10:26, 11 March 2026

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

The valinorsmic clan of rank-3 temperaments tempers out the valinorsma, 176/175, which equates 48/35 with 15/11 (rather than 11/8, which is what the keenanisma 385/384 does).

For the rank-4 valinorsmic temperament, see Rank-4 temperament #Valinorsmic (176/175).

Valinor

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11

Comma list: 176/175

Subgroup-val mapping[1 0 0 -4], 0 1 0 2], 0 0 1 1]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~5, ~7

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.3113 ¢, ~5/4 = 389.5404 ¢, ~7/4 = 971.5534 ¢
error map: -0.689 +1.849 +1.350 -2.061]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~5/4 = 389.3935 ¢, ~7/4 = 971.5196 ¢
error map: 0.000 +3.080 +2.694 -1.011]

Optimal ET sequence6, 15, 21, 22, 25, 28, 31, 37, 163c, 200cd, 237cd, 274cd

Badness (Sintel): 0.0793

Overview to extensions

The second comma in the comma list determines how we extend the no-3 subgroup temperament to include the harmonic 3. Zeus adds 121/120 as well as 385/384, and shares the same lattice structure as no-3 valinorsmic. Varda, adds 896/891, slicing the first generator in two with a semi-octave period. Nickel adds 36/35 as well as 45/44. Ares adds 64/63. Minerva adds 99/98. Thrush adds 126/125. These slice the last generator in two. Guanyin adds 540/539, slicing the first generator in three. Manwe adds 1331/1323, slicing the last generator in three. Clio adds 81/80, slicing the first generator in four. Lono adds 5120/5103, slicing the last generator in six. Mandos adds 243/242. Shrusus adds 245/243. These slice the last generator in five. Ulmo adds 2200/2187, slicing the last generator in seven. Finally, draco adds 19683/19600, slicing the last generator in nine. Most of these have natural extensions to the 13-limit via tempering out both 351/350 and 352/351.

Discussed elsewhere are:

Considered below are manwe and augenic.

Manwe

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 176/175, 1331/1323

Mapping[1 0 0 12 8], 0 1 0 3 3], 0 0 1 -6 -4]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.3600 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.6947 ¢, ~5/4 = 389.3118 ¢
error map: -0.640 +0.100 +1.718 +1.467 -2.401]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.5916 ¢, ~5/4 = 389.3756 ¢
error map: 0.000 +0.637 +3.062 +2.696 -1.045]

Optimal ET sequence15, 28de, 31, 46, 65d, 77, 80, 111, 237cd, 268cd

Badness (Sintel): 0.816

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 1331/1323

Mapping: [1 0 0 12 8 13], 0 1 0 3 3 0], 0 0 1 -6 -4 -4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.4350 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.5061 ¢, ~5/4 = 389.2327 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 702.7030 ¢, ~5/4 = 389.4303 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 31, 46, 65d, 77, 80, 111, 268cd

Badness (Sintel): 1.07

Augenic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 56/55, 128/125

Mapping[3 0 7 0 2], 0 1 0 0 0], 0 0 0 1 1]]

mapping generators: ~5/4, ~3, ~7

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~5/4 = 398.9239 ¢, ~3/2 = 705.1447 ¢, ~7/4 = 969.1106 ¢
error map: -3.228 -0.039 +6.153 -6.172 +9.184]
  • CWE: ~5/4 = 400.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 705.3488 ¢, ~7/4 = 968.4397 ¢
error map: 0.000 +3.394 +13.686 -0.386 +17.122]

Optimal ET sequence6, 9, 12, 15, 24, 27e, 51ce, 63cee *

* optimal patent val: 36

Badness (Sintel): 0.735