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== Logarithmic == | == Logarithmic == | ||
All logarithmic measures can be combined by adding and subtracting them. | All logarithmic measures can be combined by adding and subtracting them. | ||
=== Gross === | === Gross === | ||
Intervals are sometimes expressed in the number of scale steps between them. These steps can be of different size, compare for example the names of the major scale in the classic music. An early unit for measuring intervals is the "[[tone]]" which dates back to classic Greece. | Intervals are sometimes expressed in the number of scale steps between them. These steps can be of different size, compare for example the names of the major scale in the classic music. An early unit for measuring intervals is the "[[tone]]" which dates back to classic Greece. | ||
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=== Fine === | === Fine === | ||
The [[cent]] (¢), [[1200edo|1\1200 octave]], is the classic measure for intervals when more precision than 12edo is required. Some people object to it on the grounds that it is too (obviously) closely related to 12 equal. | The [[cent]] (¢), [[1200edo|1\1200 octave]], is the classic measure for intervals when more precision than 12edo is required. Some people object to it on the grounds that it is too (obviously) closely related to 12 equal. | ||
==== Octave-based fine measures ==== | ==== Octave-based fine measures ==== | ||
The following table demonstrates a list of measures derived from the logarithmic division of the octave<ref>[http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/measures.html Stichting Huygens-Fokker: Logarithmic Interval Measures]</ref>: | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
|+ List of Octave-Based Fine Measures (Logarithmic) | |+ List of Octave-Based Fine Measures (Logarithmic) | ||
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! Unit | ! Unit Name (Symbol): | ||
! Divisions of Octave | ! Divisions of Octave | ||
! Prime Factors | ! Prime Factors | ||
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| [[16edo|16]] | | [[16edo|16]] | ||
| 2<sup>4</sup> | | 2<sup>4</sup> | ||
| From Sanskrit ''eka'': one, unit; chromatic unit of Armodue | | From Sanskrit ''eka'': one, unit; chromatic unit of Armodue 16edo Theory | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[Normal diesis]] | | [[Normal diesis]] | ||
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| [[144edo|144]] | | [[144edo|144]] | ||
| 2<sup>4</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> | | 2<sup>4</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> | ||
| 1/12 of [[ | | 1/12 of [[12edo]] semitone; Proposed by al-Farabi in 10th century ([http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/measures.html source]) | ||
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| [[Mem]] | | [[Mem]] | ||
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| [[300edo|300]] | | [[300edo|300]] | ||
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup> | | 2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup> | ||
| Alexander Wood's definition of the Savart (''[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=NWZ8CgAAQBAJ&lpg=PT50&vq=savart&pg=PT51 The Physics of Music]'', 1944), compatible with [[ | | Alexander Wood's definition of the Savart (''[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=NWZ8CgAAQBAJ&lpg=PT50&vq=savart&pg=PT51 The Physics of Music]'', 1944), compatible with [[12edo]] system | ||
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| [[Heptaméride]]/[[Eptaméride]]/[[Savart]]* | | [[Heptaméride]]/[[Eptaméride]]/[[Savart]]* | ||
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| [[ | | [[Dröbisch Angle]] | ||
| [[360edo|360]] | | [[360edo|360]] | ||
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5 | | 2<sup>3</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5 | ||
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|Great [[Iring]]/[[Centitone]] | | Great [[Iring]]/[[Centitone]] | ||
|[[500edo|500]] | | [[500edo|500]] | ||
|2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>3</sup> | | 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>3</sup> | ||
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| [[600edo|600]] | | [[600edo|600]] | ||
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup> | | 2<sup>3</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup> | ||
| [[Relative cent]] of [[ | | [[Relative cent]] of [[6edo]] ([[12edo]] tone); Proposed by Widogast Iring (1898), later by Joseph Yasser as a "centitone" (1932). ([http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/c/centitone.aspx source]) | ||
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| [[Skisma]] | | [[Skisma]] | ||
| [[612edo|612]] | | [[612edo|612]] | ||
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 17 | | 2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 17 | ||
| | | Edo representation of [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]]'s Ultra (Herculean) precision level JI notation (58eda), where it is known as an "ultrina" | ||
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| [[Delfi]] | | [[Delfi]] | ||
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|Small [[Iring]]/[[Centitone]] | | Small [[Iring]]/[[Centitone]] | ||
|[[700edo|700]] | | [[700edo|700]] | ||
|2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> x 7 | | 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> x 7 | ||
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| [[1000edo|1000]] | | [[1000edo|1000]] | ||
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 5<sup>3</sup> | | 2<sup>3</sup> × 5<sup>3</sup> | ||
| [ | | [[Wikipedia: Metric prefix|SI-prefix]] division of octave | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[cent]] (¢) | | [[cent]] (¢) | ||
| 1200 | | 1200 | ||
| 2<sup>4</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup> | | 2<sup>4</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup> | ||
| 1/100 of [[ | | 1/100 of [[12edo]] semitone | ||
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| greater muon | | greater muon | ||
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|śata | | śata | ||
|[[1600edo|1600]] | | [[1600edo|1600]] | ||
|2<sup>6</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> | | 2<sup>6</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> | ||
|From Sanskrit ''śatam'': hundred; [[Relative cent]] of Armodue | | From Sanskrit ''śatam'': hundred; [[Relative cent]] of Armodue 16edo Theory | ||
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| tile | | tile | ||
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| [[1\1700_octave|1700]] | | [[1\1700_octave|1700]] | ||
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 17 | | 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 17 | ||
| [[Relative cent]] of [[ | | [[Relative cent]] of [[17edo]]; proposed by [[Margo Schulter]] ([http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/measures.html source]) and [[George Secor]] ([[Relative cent|source]]) | ||
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| [[Harmos]] | | [[Harmos]] | ||
| [[1728edo|1728]] | | [[1728edo|1728]] | ||
| 2<sup>6</sup> × 3<sup>3</sup> | | 2<sup>6</sup> × 3<sup>3</sup> | ||
| 1728 = 12<sup>3</sup>; 1/144 of [[ | | 1728 = 12<sup>3</sup>; 1/144 of [[12edo]] semitone; Proposed by Paul Beaver ([http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/e/equal-temperament.aspx source]) | ||
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|Hind śat / Indian cent | | Hind śat / Indian cent | ||
|2200 | | 2200 | ||
|2<sup>3</sup> × 11 × 5<sup>2</sup> | | 2<sup>3</sup> × 11 × 5<sup>2</sup> | ||
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| [[2460edo|2460]] | | [[2460edo|2460]] | ||
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 5 × 41 | | 2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 5 × 41 | ||
| Abbreviation of "schismina", | | Abbreviation of "schismina", edo representation of [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]]'s Extreme (Olympian) precision level JI notation (233eda) | ||
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|Centidiesis | | Centidiesis | ||
|3100 | | 3100 | ||
|2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> x 31 | | 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> x 31 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|Centiméride | | Centiméride | ||
|4300 | | 4300 | ||
|2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> x 43 | | 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> x 43 | ||
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| [[8539edo|8539]] | | [[8539edo|8539]] | ||
| PRIME | | PRIME | ||
| Provides good approximations for 41-limit primes except 37 ([http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/t/tina.aspx source]); named by [[Dave Keenan]] and [[George Secor]]; | | Provides good approximations for 41-limit primes except 37 ([http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/t/tina.aspx source]); named by [[Dave Keenan]] and [[George Secor]]; edo representation of [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]]'s Insane (Magrathean) precision level JI notation (809eda) | ||
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| [[Purdal]] | | [[Purdal]] | ||
| [[9900edo|9900]] | | [[9900edo|9900]] | ||
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 11 | | 2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 11 | ||
| [[Relative cent]] of [[99edo | | [[Relative cent]] of [[99edo]]; Suggested by [[Osmiorisbendi]], advocated by [[Tútim Dennsuul Wafiil]] | ||
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| [[Türk sent]] / [[Turkish cent]] | | [[Türk sent]] / [[Turkish cent]] | ||
| [[10600edo|10600]] | | [[10600edo|10600]] | ||
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 53 | | 2<sup>3</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 53 | ||
| [[Relative cent]] of [[ | | [[Relative cent]] of [[106edo]], 1/200 of [[53edo]]; invented by [http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/t/turk-sent.aspx M. Ekrem Karadeniz] (1965), influenced by [https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/76124322.pdf Abdülkadir Töre] | ||
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| [[Prima]] | | [[Prima]] | ||
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| [[ | | [[MIDI Tuning Standard unit]] | ||
| [[196608edo|196608]] | | [[196608edo|196608]] | ||
| 2<sup>16</sup> × 3 | | 2<sup>16</sup> × 3 | ||
| 14mu (14th MIDI unit), fourteenth MIDI-resolution unit, 1/16384 (1/(2<sup>14</sup>)) of [[12edo|12ED2]] semitone | | 14mu (14th MIDI unit), fourteenth MIDI-resolution unit, 1/16384 (1/(2<sup>14</sup>)) of [[12edo|12ED2]] semitone | ||
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|[[Mean free path]] | | [[Mean free path]] | ||
|~216,608,494 | | ~216,608,494 | ||
|2×41×2641567 | | 2×41×2641567 | ||
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==== Non-octave fine measures ==== | ==== Non-octave fine measures ==== | ||
There are other fine measurements based upon the logarithmic division of other intervals (e.g. 3/1 (twelfth)), a few of which are listed below: | There are other fine measurements based upon the logarithmic division of other intervals (e.g. 3/1 (twelfth)), a few of which are listed below: | ||
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|+ List of Non-Octave Fine Measures (Logarithmic) | |+ List of Non-Octave Fine Measures (Logarithmic) | ||
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! Unit | ! Unit Name (Symbol): | ||
! Base | ! Base Interval: | ||
! Parts of | ! Parts of Base Interval: | ||
! Origin/Significance | ! Origin/Significance | ||
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To ''convert hekts'', which is quite common in EDT systems, ''into cents'', use following formula: <code> c = h*12/13*math.log(3)/math.log(2) </code> | To ''convert hekts'', which is quite common in EDT systems, ''into cents'', use following formula: <code> c = h*12/13*math.log(3)/math.log(2) </code> | ||
=== Relative measures === | === Relative measures === | ||
Within a given [[Equal-step tuning|equal-stepped]] tonal system, the [[relative cent]] (rct, r¢) can be used to describe properties of pitches (for instance the approximation of [[Just intonation|JI]] intervals). It is defined as on 100th (or 1 percent) of the interval between two neighbouring pitches in the used equal tuning. | |||
Within a given [[Equal-step tuning|equal]] | |||
see also: Kirnberger Atom http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249 | see also: Kirnberger Atom http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249 | ||
== Ratio == | == Ratio == | ||
Intervals can be measured also giving their [ | Intervals can be measured also giving their [[Wikipedia: Interval ratio (frequency)|ratio]]. For instance the major third as [[5/4]] or the pure fifth [[3/2]]. When combining sizes given in ratios, you have to multiply or divide: | ||
a pure fifth increased by a major third gives the major seventh 3/2 × 5/4 = [[15/8]], | |||
a | which is a diatonic semitone below an octave ([[2/1]]) / (15/8) = 2/1 × 8/15 = [[16/15]]. | ||
Another notation for ratios is a vector of prime factor exponents, often called a [[monzo]], such as {{monzo| -4 4 -1 }} (for the syntonic comma, 81/80 = 2<sup>-4</sup> × 3<sup>4</sup> × 5<sup>-1</sup>), which builds a bridge back to the logarithmic measure: intervals can be combined by component-wise addition or subtraction of their vectors. | |||
== Notes == | |||
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[[Category:Interval size]] | [[Category:Interval size]] | ||
Revision as of 16:54, 10 June 2022
Interval size measure or interval size unit means the distance between pitches. Intervals can be measured logarithmic or by frequency ratios.
Logarithmic
All logarithmic measures can be combined by adding and subtracting them.
Gross
Intervals are sometimes expressed in the number of scale steps between them. These steps can be of different size, compare for example the names of the major scale in the classic music. An early unit for measuring intervals is the "tone" which dates back to classic Greece.
In serial music all intervals were measured by the number of 12edo-semitones. In analogy, the relative interval measure is the number of steps between two pitches of an equal tuning, sometimes called "degrees" (of an edo). For generators, the backslash notation is used d\edo, but it is also a ratio (of a logarithmic measure).
Fine
The cent (¢), 1\1200 octave, is the classic measure for intervals when more precision than 12edo is required. Some people object to it on the grounds that it is too (obviously) closely related to 12 equal.
Octave-based fine measures
The following table demonstrates a list of measures derived from the logarithmic division of the octave[1]:
| Unit Name (Symbol): | Divisions of Octave | Prime Factors | Origin / Significance |
|---|---|---|---|
| Eka | 16 | 24 | From Sanskrit eka: one, unit; chromatic unit of Armodue 16edo Theory |
| Normal diesis | 31 | PRIME | |
| Méride | 43 | PRIME | Proposed by Joseph Sauveur, as 7 heptaméride units (source) |
| Holdrian comma | 53 | PRIME | |
| Morion | 72 | 23 × 32 | |
| Farab | 144 | 24 × 32 | 1/12 of 12edo semitone; Proposed by al-Farabi in 10th century (source) |
| Mem | 205 | 5 × 41 | Unit used by H-Pi Instruments |
| Tredek | 270 | 2 × 33 × 5 | |
| Savart* | 300 | 22 × 3 × 52 | Alexander Wood's definition of the Savart (The Physics of Music, 1944), compatible with 12edo system |
| Heptaméride/Eptaméride/Savart* | 301 | 7 × 43 | 301 ≃ 1,000 * log102; 1/7 of Méride unit; Proposed by Joseph Sauveur (1701), advocated by Félix Savart |
| Gene | 311 | PRIME | |
| Dröbisch Angle | 360 | 23 × 32 × 5 | |
| Squb | 494 | 2 × 13 × 19 | |
| Great Iring/Centitone | 500 | 22 × 53 | |
| Iring/Centitone | 600 | 23 × 3 × 52 | Relative cent of 6edo (12edo tone); Proposed by Widogast Iring (1898), later by Joseph Yasser as a "centitone" (1932). (source) |
| Skisma | 612 | 22 × 32 × 17 | Edo representation of Sagittal's Ultra (Herculean) precision level JI notation (58eda), where it is known as an "ultrina" |
| Delfi | 665 | 5 × 7 × 19 | |
| Small Iring/Centitone | 700 | 22 × 52 x 7 | |
| Woolhouse | 730 | 2 × 5 × 73 | Proposed by Wesley S.B. Woolhouse in Essay on musical intervals (1835) |
| millioctave (moct) | 1000 | 23 × 53 | SI-prefix division of octave |
| cent (¢) | 1200 | 24 × 3 × 52 | 1/100 of 12edo semitone |
| greater muon | 1224 | 23 × 32 × 17 | |
| triangular cent | 1260 | 22 × 32 × 5 × 7 | |
| pion | 1272 | 23 × 3 × 53 | |
| pound | 1344 | 26 × 3 × 7 | |
| neutron | 1392 | 24 × 3 × 29 | |
| lesser muon | 1428 | 22 × 3 × 7 × 17 | |
| deciFarab | 1440 | 25 × 32 × 5 | 1/10 of Farab unit |
| quadratic cent | 1452 | 22 × 3 × 112 | |
| ksion | 1476 | 22 × 32 × 41 | |
| cubic cent | 1500 | 22 × 3 × 53 | |
| 7mu or Heptamu | 1536 | 29 × 3 | (7th MIDI unit), seventh MIDI-resolution unit, 1/128 (1/(27)) of 12ED2 semitone (source) |
| rhoon | 1560 | 23 × 3 × 5 × 13 | |
| śata | 1600 | 26 × 52 | From Sanskrit śatam: hundred; Relative cent of Armodue 16edo Theory |
| tile | 1632 | 25 × 3 × 17 | |
| Iota | 1700 | 22 × 52 × 17 | Relative cent of 17edo; proposed by Margo Schulter (source) and George Secor (source) |
| Harmos | 1728 | 26 × 33 | 1728 = 123; 1/144 of 12edo semitone; Proposed by Paul Beaver (source) |
| Hind śat / Indian cent | 2200 | 23 × 11 × 52 | |
| Mina | 2460 | 22 × 3 × 5 × 41 | Abbreviation of "schismina", edo representation of Sagittal's Extreme (Olympian) precision level JI notation (233eda) |
| Centidiesis | 3100 | 22 × 52 x 31 | |
| Centiméride | 4300 | 22 × 52 x 43 | |
| Tina | 8539 | PRIME | Provides good approximations for 41-limit primes except 37 (source); named by Dave Keenan and George Secor; edo representation of Sagittal's Insane (Magrathean) precision level JI notation (809eda) |
| Purdal | 9900 | 22 × 32 × 52 × 11 | Relative cent of 99edo; Suggested by Osmiorisbendi, advocated by Tútim Dennsuul Wafiil |
| Türk sent / Turkish cent | 10600 | 23 × 52 × 53 | Relative cent of 106edo, 1/200 of 53edo; invented by M. Ekrem Karadeniz (1965), influenced by Abdülkadir Töre |
| Prima | 12276 | 22 × 32 × 11 × 31 | |
| Jinn | 16808 | 23 × 11 × 191 | |
| Jot | 30103 | PRIME | 30103 ≃ 100,000 * log102; Proposed by Augustus de Morgan(1864) |
| Imp | 31920 | 24 × 3 × 5 × 7 × 19 | |
| Flu | 46032 | 24 × 3 × 7 × 137 | |
| MIDI Tuning Standard unit | 196608 | 216 × 3 | 14mu (14th MIDI unit), fourteenth MIDI-resolution unit, 1/16384 (1/(214)) of 12ED2 semitone |
| Mean free path | ~216,608,494 | 2×41×2641567 |
* More to be added regarding the Heptaméride/Savart units
Non-octave fine measures
There are other fine measurements based upon the logarithmic division of other intervals (e.g. 3/1 (twelfth)), a few of which are listed below:
| Unit Name (Symbol): | Base Interval: | Parts of Base Interval: | Origin/Significance |
|---|---|---|---|
| Hekt | 3/1 (twelfth) | 1300 | 1/100 of 13-ED3 (Bohlen-Pierce) scale step |
| Grad | 531441/524288 (Pythagorean comma) | 12 | |
| Tuning unit | 531441/524288 (Pythagorean comma) | 720 | |
| Neper (Np) | [math]\displaystyle{ e }[/math] ≈ 2.71828 | 1 | the natural unit for logarithmic measurement |
| Dineper (dNp) | [math]\displaystyle{ e^2 }[/math] ≈ 7.38906 | 1 | used for logarithmic approximants |
To convert hekts, which is quite common in EDT systems, into cents, use following formula: c = h*12/13*math.log(3)/math.log(2)
Relative measures
Within a given equal-stepped tonal system, the relative cent (rct, r¢) can be used to describe properties of pitches (for instance the approximation of JI intervals). It is defined as on 100th (or 1 percent) of the interval between two neighbouring pitches in the used equal tuning.
see also: Kirnberger Atom http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249
Ratio
Intervals can be measured also giving their ratio. For instance the major third as 5/4 or the pure fifth 3/2. When combining sizes given in ratios, you have to multiply or divide:
a pure fifth increased by a major third gives the major seventh 3/2 × 5/4 = 15/8,
which is a diatonic semitone below an octave (2/1) / (15/8) = 2/1 × 8/15 = 16/15.
Another notation for ratios is a vector of prime factor exponents, often called a monzo, such as [-4 4 -1⟩ (for the syntonic comma, 81/80 = 2-4 × 34 × 5-1), which builds a bridge back to the logarithmic measure: intervals can be combined by component-wise addition or subtraction of their vectors.