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These temper out the keema, {{monzo| -5 -3 3 1 }} = [[875/864]]. Keemic temperaments include [[Jubilismic clan #Doublewide|doublewide]], [[Meantone family #Flattone|flattone]], [[Porcupine family #Porcupine|porcupine]], [[Gamelismic clan #Superkleismic|superkleismic]], [[Magic family #Magic|magic]], [[Kleismic family #Keemun|keemun]], and [[Sycamore family #Sycamore|sycamore]]. Discussed below are quasitemp and barbad.
These temper out the keema, {{monzo| -5 -3 3 1 }} = [[875/864]] = {{S|5/S6}}, whose fundamental equivalence entails that [[6/5]] is sharpened so that it stacks three times to reach [[7/4]], and the interval between 6/5 and [[5/4]] is compressed so that [[7/6]] - 6/5 - 5/4 - [[9/7]] are set equidistant from each other. As the [[Keemic family#Undecimal supermagic|canonical extension]] of rank-3 keemic to the [[11-limit]] tempers out the commas [[100/99]] and [[385/384]] (whereby ([[6/5]])<sup>2</sup> is identified with [[16/11]]), this provides a clean way to extend the various keemic temperaments to the 11-limit as well.


= Quasitemp =
Full [[7-limit]] keemic temperaments discussed elsewhere are:
== 5-limit ==
* [[Keemun]] (+49/48) → [[Kleismic family #Keemun|Kleismic family]]
* ''[[Doublewide]]'' (+50/49) → [[Jubilismic clan #Doublewide|Jubilismic clan]]
* [[Porcupine]] (+64/63) → [[Porcupine family #Septimal porcupine|Porcupine family]]
* [[Flattone]] (+81/80) → [[Meantone family #Flattone|Meantone family]]
* [[Magic]] (+225/224) → [[Magic family #Septimal magic|Magic family]]
* ''[[Sycamore]]'' (+686/675) → [[Sycamore family #Septimal sycamore|Sycamore family]]
* [[Superkleismic]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Superkleismic|Gamelismic clan]]
* ''[[Undeka]]'' (+3200/3087) → [[11th-octave temperaments #Undeka|11th-octave temperaments]]


Period: 1\1
Discussed below are quasitemp, chromo, barbad, hyperkleismic, and sevond.


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generator: ~3125/2592 = 292.702
== Quasitemp ==
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Quasitemp]].''


EDO generator: [[37edo|9\37]], [[41edo|10\41]], [[45edo|11\45]]
Quasitemp is a full 7-limit strong extension of [[gariberttet]], the 2.5/3.7/3 subgroup temperament defined by tempering out [[3125/3087]]. In gariberttet, three generators reach [[5/3]] and five reach [[7/3]], so that the generator itself has the interpretation of [[25/21]] (which is equated to [[13/11]] in the 13-limit extension). This implies that 3:5:7 and 5:6:7 chords are reached rather quickly. In quasitemp, tempering out 875/864 entails that [[8/7]] is found after 9 generators, from which the mappings of 3 and 5 follow.


Scales (Scala files):  
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


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[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 2401/2400
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Subgroup: 2.3.5
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 5 5 5 | 0 -14 -11 -9 }}


Comma list: 6103515625/5804752896
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/21


Mapping: [{{val| 1 5 5 }}, {{val| 0 -14 -11 }}]
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 292.710


{{Val list|legend=1| 4, …, 37, 41 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 37, 41 }}


Badness: 0.7678
[[Badness]]: 0.060269


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=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


== 7-limit ==
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 1375/1372


Period: 1\1
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 2 | 0 -14 -11 -9 6 }}


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generator: ~25/21 = 292.710
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 292.547


EDO generator: [[37edo|9\37]], [[41edo|10\41]], [[45edo|11\45]]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 37, 41, 119 }}


Scales (Scala files):  
Badness: 0.043209


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==== 13-limit ====
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 100/99, 196/195, 275/273, 385/384


Comma list: 875/864, 2401/2400
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 2 2 | 0 -14 -11 -9 6 7 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 5 5 5 }}, {{val| 0 -14 -11 -9 }}]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~13/11 = 292.457


{{Multival|legend=1| 14 11 9 -15 -25 -10 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 37, 41, 78, 119f }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 4, …, 37, 41 }}
Badness: 0.032913


Badness: 0.0603
=== Quato ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


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Comma list: 243/242, 441/440, 625/616


== 11-limit ==
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 12 | 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 }}


Period: 1\1
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/21 = 292.851


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generator: ~25/21 = 292.547
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 41, 127cd, 168cd }}


EDO generator: [[37edo|9\37]], [[41edo|10\41]], [[78edo|19\78]]
Badness: 0.041170


Scales (Scala files):  
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


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Comma list: 105/104, 243/242, 275/273, 325/324
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 1375/1372
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 12 12 | 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 -34 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 5 5 5 2 }}, {{val| 0 -14 -11 -9 6 }}]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~13/11 = 292.928


{{Val list|legend=1| 37, 41, 119 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 41, 86ce, 127cd }}


Badness: 0.0432
Badness: 0.030081


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== Chromo ==
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Chromo]].''
Chromo represents the [[13edf]] chain as a rank-2 temperament, with [[6/5]] and [[5/4]] mapped to 6 and 7 steps, respectively. Since the difference of those two intervals is abbreviated considerably from just, keemic provides the most meaningful 7-limit extension (setting [[7/6]], 6/5, 5/4, [[9/7]] equidistant) so that the temperament then approximates the [[4:5:6:7]] tetrad with 0:7:13:18 generator steps.


=== 13-limit ===
Note that if one allows a more complex mapping for prime 7 and wants a larger prime limit, one may prefer [[escapade]].


Period: 1\1
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generator: ~25/21 = 292.457
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 2430/2401


EDO generator: [[37edo|9\37]], [[41edo|10\41]], [[78edo|19\78]]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 2 | 0 13 7 18 }}
 
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 100/99, 196/195, 275/273, 385/384


POTE generator: ~13/11 = 292.457
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/24


Mapping: [{{val| 1 5 5 5 2 2 }}, {{val| 0 -14 -11 -9 6 7 }}]
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~25/24 = 53.816


{{Val list|legend=1| 37, 41, 78, 119f }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 45, 67c }}


Badness: 0.0329
[[Badness]]: 0.090769


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== Barbad ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


== Quato ==
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 16875/16807


Period: 1\1
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 9 7 11 | 0 -19 -12 -21 }}


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generator: ~25/21 = 292.851
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~98/75


EDO generator: [[41edo|10\41]], [[45edo|11\45]], [[86edo|21\86]]
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~98/75 = 468.331


Scales (Scala files):
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 18, 23d, 41 }}


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[[Badness]]: 0.110448
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=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 243/242, 441/440, 625/616
Comma list: 245/242, 540/539, 625/616


Mapping: [{{val| 1 5 5 5 12 }}, {{val| 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 9 7 11 14 | 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 41, 127cd, 168cd }}
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~98/75 = 468.367


Badness: 0.0412
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 18e, 23de, 41, 228ccdd }}


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Badness: 0.050105


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Period: 1\1
Comma list: 144/143, 196/195, 245/242, 275/273


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generator: ~13/11 = 292.928
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 9 7 11 14 8 | 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 -11 }}


EDO generator: [[41edo|10\41]], [[45edo|11\45]], [[86edo|21\86]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~13/10 = 468.270


Scales (Scala files):
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 18e, 23de, 41 }}


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Badness: 0.039183
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
== Hyperkleismic ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Comma list: 105/104, 243/242, 275/273, 325/324
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 51200/50421


Mapping: [{{val| 1 5 5 5 12 12 }}, {{val| 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 -34 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -3 -2 2 | 0 17 16 3 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 41, 86ce, 127cd }}
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~6/5


Badness: 0.0301
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 323.780


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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 37, 63 }}


= Barbad =
[[Badness]]: 0.157830


Period: 1\1
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generator: ~98/75 = 468.331
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 2420/2401


EDO generator: [[18edo|7\18]], [[23edo|9\23]], [[41edo|16\41]]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 -2 2 4 | 0 17 16 3 -2}}


Scales (Scala files):  
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 323.796


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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 37, 63 }}
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Badness: 0.065356


Comma list: 875/864, 16875/16807
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Mapping: [{{val| 1 9 7 11 }}, {{val| 0 -19 -12 -21 }}]
Comma list: 100/99, 169/168, 275/273, 385/384


{{Multival|legend=1| 19 12 21 -25 -20 15 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 -2 2 4 1 | 0 17 16 3 -2 10 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 18, 23d, 41 }}
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~6/5 = 323.790


Badness: 0.1104
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 37, 63 }}


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Badness: 0.035724


== 11-limit ==
== Sevond ==
10/9 is tempered to be exactly 1\7 of an octave. Therefore 3/2 is 1 generator sharp of a 7edo step and 5/4 is 2 generators sharp.


Period: 1\1
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Optimal ([[POTE]]) generator: ~98/75 = 468.367
[[Comma list]]: 875/864, 327680/321489


EDO generator: [[18edo|7\18]], [[23edo|9\23]], [[41edo|16\41]]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 7 0 -6 53 | 0 1 2 -3 }}


Scales (Scala files):  
: Mapping generators: ~10/9, ~3


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[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~3/2 = 705.613
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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 56, 63, 119 }}


Comma list: 245/242, 540/539, 625/616
[[Badness]]: 0.206592


Mapping: [{{val| 1 9 7 11 14 }}, {{val| 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 }}]
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


{{Val list|legend=1| 18e, 23de, 41, 228ccdd }}
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 6655/6561


Badness: 0.0501
Mapping: {{mapping| 7 0 -6 53 2 | 0 1 2 -3 2 }}


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Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~3/2 = 705.518


== 13-limit ==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 56, 63, 119 }}


Period: 1\1
Badness: 0.070437
 
Optimal ([[POTE]]) generator: ~13/10 = 468.270
 
EDO generator: [[18edo|7\18]], [[23edo|9\23]], [[41edo|16\41]]
 
Scales (Scala files):
 
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=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 144/143, 196/195, 245/242, 275/273
Comma list: 100/99, 169/168, 352/351, 385/384


Mapping: [{{val| 1 9 7 11 14 8 }}, {{val| 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 -11 }}]
Mapping: {{mapping| 7 0 -6 53 2 37 | 0 1 2 -3 2 -1 }}


{{Val list|legend=1| 18e, 23de, 41 }}
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~3/2 = 705.344


Badness: 0.0392
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 56, 63, 119 }}


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Badness: 0.041238


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