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| Name = Barbados third, tridecimal semisixth

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~~<div style~~="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">**13/10**

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~~454.21395 cents~~

~~[[media type="file" key~~="jid_13_10_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3~~"]] [[file:xenharmonic/jid_13_10_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3|sound sample]]~~

In [[13-limit]] [[~~Just Intonation~~]], 13/10 is an [[interseptimal]] interval measuring about 454.2¢. It falls in an ambiguous zone between a wide major third such as [[~~9_7|~~9/7]] and a flat perfect fourth such as [[~~21_16|~~21/16]]. The descriptor "interseptimal" comes from [[Margo Schulter]], and indicates its position between those two septimal (7-based) extremes. 13/10 appears between the 10th and 13th overtones of the [[~~OverToneSeries|~~harmonic series]] and appears in such chords as 8:10:13, a quasi-augmented triad. 13/10 also appears in the relatively-simple 10:13:15 triad, which consists of an interseptimal ultramajor third (13/10) and an interseptimal inframinor third ([[~~15_13|~~15/13]]) which stack to make a [[~~3_2|~~3/2]] perfect fifth. It is well-approximated in [[24edo]], [[29edo]], [[37edo]], and of course, infinitely many other [[EDO]] systems.

In [[13-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''13/10''', the '''tridecimal semisixth''' is an [[interseptimal]] interval measuring about 454.2¢. It falls in an ambiguous zone between a wide major third such as [[9/7]] and a flat perfect fourth such as [[21/16]]. The descriptor "interseptimal" comes from [[Margo Schulter]], and indicates its position between those two septimal (7-based) extremes. 13/10 appears between the 10th and 13th overtones of the [[harmonic series]] and appears in such chords as 8:10:13, a quasi-augmented triad. 13/10 also appears in the relatively-simple 10:13:15 triad, which consists of an interseptimal ultramajor third (13/10) and an interseptimal inframinor third ([[15/13]]) which stack to make a [[3/2]] perfect fifth. It is well-approximated in [[16edo]], [[21edo]], [[24edo]], [[29edo]], [[37edo]], and of course, infinitely many other [[EDO]] systems.

~~See: [[Gallery~~ of ~~Just Intervals]]~~, ~~[[List of root-3rd-P5 triads in JI]]~~<~~/pre~~></~~div~~>

== Interval chain ==

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Because 13/10 is an interseptimal interval, stacking it four times will result in a good approximation of a septimal interval. In this case, (13/10)<sup>4</sup> approximates 20/7 (compound [[10/7]]) remarkably well, with less than 1{{cent}} error.

~~<div style="width~~:~~100%; max-height~~:~~400pt; overflow~~:~~auto; background-color~~:~~#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important"~~ class="~~old-revision-html~~"~~><html><head><title>13_10</title></head><body><strong>~~13/10~~</strong><br />~~

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Additionally, while it may seem as though (13/10)<sup>2</sup> doesn't approximate 17/10 very well at first glance, it allows for an elegant interpretation of the tetrad formed by stacking 13/10 three times on top of itself: [[~]]10:13:17:22.

454.~~21395 cents<br />~~

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|+ [[Interval chain]] generated by 13/10

~~In <a class="wiki_link" href="/13~~-limit">13-limit</a> <a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20Intonation">Just Intonation</a>, 13/10 is an <a class="wiki_link" href="/interseptimal">interseptimal</a> interval measuring about 454.~~2¢. It falls in an ambiguous zone between a wide major third such as <a class="wiki_link" href="/9_7">9~~/7~~</a> and a flat perfect fourth such as <a class="wiki_link" href="/21_16">21/16</a>~~. ~~The descriptor &quot;interseptimal&quot; comes from <a class="wiki_link" href="/Margo%20Schulter">Margo Schulter</a>, and indicates its position between those two septimal (7-based~~) ~~extremes. 13~~/~~10 appears between the 10th and 13th overtones of the <a class~~=~~"wiki_link" href~~=~~"/OverToneSeries">harmonic series</a> and appears in such chords as 8:10:13, a quasi-augmented triad. 13/10~~ also ~~appears in the relatively-simple 10:13:15 triad, which consists of an interseptimal ultramajor third (13/10) and an interseptimal inframinor third (<a class~~=~~"wiki_link" href~~="/~~15_13">~~15/13~~</a>) which stack to make a <a class="wiki_link" href="/3_2">3/2</a> perfect~~ fifth. It is well-approximated in <a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo">24edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/29edo">29edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/37edo">37edo</a>, and of course, infinitely many other <a class="wiki_link" href="/EDO">EDO</a> systems.<br />

! #

~~<br />~~

! [[Cent]]s

~~See: <a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals">~~Gallery of ~~Just Intervals</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/List%20of%20root-3rd-P5%20triads%20in%20JI">~~List of root-3rd-P5 triads in JI~~</a></body></html></pre></div>~~

! Approximated [[ratio]]s

! Associated [[comma]]s

|-

| 1

| 454.2

| 13/10<br>[[17/13]] (+10.2{{cent}})

| <br>[[170/169]] (major naiadma)

|-

| 2

| 908.4

| [[27/16]] (-2.6{{cent}})<br>[[22/13]] (+2.4{{cent}})<br>[[17/10]] (+10.2{{cent}})

| [[676/675]] (island comma)<br>[[2200/2197]] (petrma)<br>[[170/169]] (major naiadma)

|-

| 3

| 1362.6

| [[11/5]] (+2.4{{cent}})

| [[2200/2197]] (petrma)

|-

| 4

| 1816.9

| [[20/7]] (+0.6{{cent}})

| [[200000/199927]]

|-

| 5

| 2271.1

| [[26/7]] (+0.6{{cent}})

| [[200000/199927]]

|}

== See also ==

* [[20/13]] – its [[octave complement]]

* [[15/13]] – its [[fifth complement]]

* [[Gallery of just intervals]]

* [[List of root-3rd-P5 triads in JI]]

* [[The Archipelago]]

[[Category:Interseptimal intervals]]

[[Category:Naiadic]]

[[Category:Fourth]]

[[Category:Subfourth]]

[[Category:Third]]

[[Category:Supermajor third]]

[[Category:Over-5 intervals]]

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+{{Infobox Interval
-This is an imported revision from Wikispaces. The revision metadata is included below for reference:<br>
+| Name = Barbados third, tridecimal semisixth
-: This revision was by author [[User:spt3125|spt3125]] and made on <tt>2014-06-07 22:29:13 UTC</tt>.<br>
+| Color name = 3og4, thogu 4th
-: The original revision id was <tt>513213514</tt>.<br>
+| Sound = jid_13_10_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
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-<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">**13/10**
-|-1 0 -1 0 0 1&gt;
-.21395 cents
-[[media type="file" key="jid_13_10_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3"]] [[file:xenharmonic/jid_13_10_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3|sound sample]]
-In [[13-limit]] [[Just Intonation]], 13/10 is an [[interseptimal]] interval measuring about 454.2¢. It falls in an ambiguous zone between a wide major third such as [[9_7|9/7]] and a flat perfect fourth such as [[21_16|21/16]]. The descriptor "interseptimal" comes from [[Margo Schulter]], and indicates its position between those two septimal (7-based) extremes. 13/10 appears between the 10th and 13th overtones of the [[OverToneSeries|harmonic series]] and appears in such chords as 8:10:13, a quasi-augmented triad. 13/10 also appears in the relatively-simple 10:13:15 triad, which consists of an interseptimal ultramajor third (13/10) and an interseptimal inframinor third ([[15_13|15/13]]) which stack to make a [[3_2|3/2]] perfect fifth. It is well-approximated in [[24edo]], [[29edo]], [[37edo]], and of course, infinitely many other [[EDO]] systems.
+In [[13-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''13/10''', the '''tridecimal semisixth''' is an [[interseptimal]] interval measuring about 454.2¢. It falls in an ambiguous zone between a wide major third such as [[9/7]] and a flat perfect fourth such as [[21/16]]. The descriptor "interseptimal" comes from [[Margo Schulter]], and indicates its position between those two septimal (7-based) extremes. 13/10 appears between the 10th and 13th overtones of the [[harmonic series]] and appears in such chords as 8:10:13, a quasi-augmented triad. 13/10 also appears in the relatively-simple 10:13:15 triad, which consists of an interseptimal ultramajor third (13/10) and an interseptimal inframinor third ([[15/13]]) which stack to make a [[3/2]] perfect fifth. It is well-approximated in [[16edo]], [[21edo]], [[24edo]], [[29edo]], [[37edo]], and of course, infinitely many other [[EDO]] systems.
-See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals]], [[List of root-3rd-P5 triads in JI]]</pre></div>
+== Interval chain ==
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+Because 13/10 is an interseptimal interval, stacking it four times will result in a good approximation of a septimal interval. In this case, (13/10)<sup>4</sup> approximates 20/7 (compound [[10/7]]) remarkably well, with less than 1{{cent}} error.
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-|-1 0 -1 0 0 1&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
+Additionally, while it may seem as though (13/10)<sup>2</sup> doesn't approximate 17/10 very well at first glance, it allows for an elegant interpretation of the tetrad formed by stacking 13/10 three times on top of itself: [[~]]10:13:17:22.
-.21395 cents&lt;br /&gt;
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+{| class="wikitable"
-&lt;br /&gt;
+|+ [[Interval chain]] generated by 13/10
-In &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13-limit"&gt;13-limit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20Intonation"&gt;Just Intonation&lt;/a&gt;, 13/10 is an &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/interseptimal"&gt;interseptimal&lt;/a&gt; interval measuring about 454.2¢. It falls in an ambiguous zone between a wide major third such as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/9_7"&gt;9/7&lt;/a&gt; and a flat perfect fourth such as &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/21_16"&gt;21/16&lt;/a&gt;. The descriptor &amp;quot;interseptimal&amp;quot; comes from &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Margo%20Schulter"&gt;Margo Schulter&lt;/a&gt;, and indicates its position between those two septimal (7-based) extremes. 13/10 appears between the 10th and 13th overtones of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/OverToneSeries"&gt;harmonic series&lt;/a&gt; and appears in such chords as 8:10:13, a quasi-augmented triad. 13/10 also appears in the relatively-simple 10:13:15 triad, which consists of an interseptimal ultramajor third (13/10) and an interseptimal inframinor third (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/15_13"&gt;15/13&lt;/a&gt;) which stack to make a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3_2"&gt;3/2&lt;/a&gt; perfect fifth. It is well-approximated in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/29edo"&gt;29edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/37edo"&gt;37edo&lt;/a&gt;, and of course, infinitely many other &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/EDO"&gt;EDO&lt;/a&gt; systems.&lt;br /&gt;
+! #
-&lt;br /&gt;
+! [[Cent]]s
-See: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals"&gt;Gallery of Just Intervals&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/List%20of%20root-3rd-P5%20triads%20in%20JI"&gt;List of root-3rd-P5 triads in JI&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
+! Approximated [[ratio]]s
+! Associated [[comma]]s
+|-
+| 1
+| 454.2
+| 13/10<br>[[17/13]] (+10.2{{cent}})
+| <br>[[170/169]] (major naiadma)
+|-
+| 2
+| 908.4
+| [[27/16]] (-2.6{{cent}})<br>[[22/13]] (+2.4{{cent}})<br>[[17/10]] (+10.2{{cent}})
+| [[676/675]] (island comma)<br>[[2200/2197]] (petrma)<br>[[170/169]] (major naiadma)
+|-
+| 3
+| 1362.6
+| [[11/5]] (+2.4{{cent}})
+| [[2200/2197]] (petrma)
+|-
+| 4
+| 1816.9
+| [[20/7]] (+0.6{{cent}})
+| [[200000/199927]]
+|-
+| 5
+| 2271.1
+| [[26/7]] (+0.6{{cent}})
+| [[200000/199927]]
+|}
+== See also ==
+* [[20/13]] – its [[octave complement]]
+* [[15/13]] – its [[fifth complement]]
+* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
+* [[List of root-3rd-P5 triads in JI]]
+* [[The Archipelago]]
+[[Category:Interseptimal intervals]]
+[[Category:Naiadic]]
+[[Category:Fourth]]
+[[Category:Subfourth]]
+[[Category:Third]]
+[[Category:Supermajor third]]
+[[Category:Over-5 intervals]]