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'''Interval size measure''' means the ''distance'' between pitches. Intervals can be measured logarithmically or by frequency ratios.
'''Interval size measure''' or '''interval size unit''' means the ''distance'' between pitches. Intervals can be measured [[#logarithmic|logarithmic]] or by frequency [[#ratio|ratios]].


==Logarithmic==
== Logarithmic ==
All logarithmic measures can be combined by adding and subtracting them.
All logarithmic measures can be combined by adding and subtracting them.


===Gross===
=== Backslash notation ===
Intervals are sometimes expressed in the number of scale steps between them. These steps can be of different size, compare for example the names of the major scale in the classic music.
A common shorthand in use in the microtonal community is ''k''\''N'', written with a backslash (\) instead of a forwardslash (/), to refer to an interval with a frequency ratio of 2<sup>''k''/''N''</sup>. ''k''\''N'' is pronounced "''k'' steps of ''N'' [[edo]]", and can be derived from the meaning of "[[step]]s" in the context of edos (unless talking about steps of specific subsets/scales of some edo).  


For "atonal" music it was replaced by the number of 12edo-semitones.
Steps are linear in the log-frequency domain, so expressions like {{nowrap|11\19 − 6\19 {{=}} 5\19}} hold. In general, we have
: {{nowrap|''a''\''N'' + ''b''\''N'' {{=}} (''a'' + ''b'')\''N''}}


Proposal: The '''relative interval measure''' is the number of steps between two pitches of an [[Equal-step tuning|equal]] tuning, sometimes called [[Degree|degree]]s (of an edo). For generators, the backslash notation is used d\edo, but it is also a ratio (of a logarithmic measure).
which expresses the same thing as {{nowrap|2<sup>''a''/''N''</sup> × 2<sup>''b''/''N''</sup> {{=}} 2<sup>(''a'' + ''b'')/''N''</sup>.}}


===Fine===
Or equivalently, for subtraction/division:
 
: {{nowrap|''a''\''N'' − ''b''\''N'' {{=}} (''a'' − ''b'')\''N''}}
 
which expresses the same thing as {{nowrap|2<sup>''a''/''N''</sup> / 2<sup>''b''/''N''</sup> {{=}} 2<sup>(''a'' - ''b'')/''N''</sup>.}}
 
Backslash notation can be extended to support [[nonoctave]] [[equal tuning]]s by writing the tuning in full after the backslash. For example, 11\13edt means 11 steps of [[13edt]], 14\9edf means 14 steps of [[9edf]], and 7\12ed12/5 means 7 steps of [[12ed12/5]].
 
=== Gross ===
The [[octave]] and the [[decade]] are common coarse units for interval sizes. The {{w|decibel}}, being a relative logarithmic-scale unit for power or root-power quantities, is inappropriate for measuring intervals; the decade is used instead. Similarly, the {{w|neper}} (Np) and the dineper (dNp), like the decibel, should not be used. However, in the absence of a substitute, dinepers have an application in [[logarithmic approximants]].
 
Intervals are sometimes expressed in the number of scale steps between them. These steps can be of different size, compare for example the names of the major scale in the classic music. An early unit for measuring intervals is the "[[tone]]" which dates back to classic Greece.
 
In serial music, all intervals were measured by the number of 12edo [[semitone (interval size measure)|semitone]]s. In analogy, the '''relative interval measure''' is the number of steps between two pitches of an [[equal tuning]], sometimes called "[[degree]]s". These measures can be written using [[#Backslash notation|backslash notation]] if the degree itself isn't sufficiently clear in context.
 
=== Fine ===
The [[cent]] (¢), [[1200edo|1\1200 octave]], is the classic measure for intervals when more precision than 12edo is required. Some people object to it on the grounds that it is too (obviously) closely related to 12 equal.  
The [[cent]] (¢), [[1200edo|1\1200 octave]], is the classic measure for intervals when more precision than 12edo is required. Some people object to it on the grounds that it is too (obviously) closely related to 12 equal.  


The following table demonstrates a list of measures derived from the logarithmic division of the octave:
==== Octave-based fine measures ====
The following table demonstrates a list of measures derived from the logarithmic division of the octave: {{todo|complete table|research|comment=Add all missing citations.}}
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+List of Octave-Based Fine Measures (Logarithmic)
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | List of octave-based fine measures (logarithmic)
!Unit name (symbol):
|-
!Divisions of Octave
! Unit name (symbol):
!Prime Factors
! Divisions of octave
!Origin / Significance
! Prime factors
! Origin/significance
|-
| [[Eka]]
| [[16edo|16]]
| 2<sup>4</sup>
| From Sanskrit ''eka'': one, unit; chromatic unit of Armodue 16edo theory<ref>[http://www.armodue.com/risorse.htm Armodue: le risorse di un nuovo sistema musicale]</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Armodue_theory|Eka]]
| [[Normal shruti]]
|[[16edo|16]]
| [[22edo|22]]
|2<sup>4</sup>
| 2 × 11
|From Sanskrit ''eka'': one, unit; chromatic unit of Armodue 16ED2 Theory
| Proposed by [[User:Tristanbay|Tristan Bay]] (2025) in reference to the Indian tradition of dividing the octave into 22 unequal parts.
|-
|-
|[[Normal_diesis|Normal diesis]]
| [[Normal diesis]]
|[[31edo|31]]
| [[31edo|31]]
|PRIME
| 31 (prime)
|
| See the dedicated page.
|-
| [[Dea]]
| [[41edo|41]]
| 41 (prime)
| Proposed by [[User:Tristanbay|Tristan Bay]] (2025) to reflect that a mina is a "minute" (1/60 the width) of a 1\41 "degree".
|-
| [[Méride]]
| [[43edo|43]]
| 43 (prime)
| Proposed by [[Joseph Sauveur]], as 7 heptaméride units<ref name="measure">[http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/measures.html Stichting Huygens–Fokker: Logarithmic Interval Measures]</ref><ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/m/meride.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Méride / 43-ed2 / 43-edo / 43-ET / 43-tone equal-temperament'']</ref>.
|-
| [[Holdrian comma]]
| [[53edo|53]]
| 53 (prime)
| See the dedicated page.
|-
| [[Holdrian comma|Mercator's old comma]]
| [[55edo|55]]
| 5 × 11
| Not to be confused with [[Mercator's comma]].
|-
|-
|[[Méride]]
| [[Decitone]]
|[[43edo|43]]
| [[60edo|60]]
|PRIME
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 5
|Proposed by Joseph Sauveur as 7 heptaméride units
| Standard SI prefix + 12edo tone
|-
|-
|[[Holdrian_comma|Holdrian comma]]
| [[Morion]]
|[[53edo|53]]
| [[72edo|72]]
|PRIME
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup>
|
| See the dedicated page.
|-
|-
|[[Morion]]
| [[Farab]]
|[[72edo|72]]
| [[144edo|144]]
|2<sup>3</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup>
| 2<sup>4</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup>
|
| 1/12 of [[12edo]] semitone; proposed by [[al-Farabi]] in 10th century<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/f/farab.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Farab''].</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Farab]]
| [[Mem]]
|[[144edo|144]]
| [[205edo|205]]
|2<sup>4</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup>
| 5 × 41
|1/12 of [[12edo|12ED2]] semitone; Proposed by al-Farabi in 10th century ([http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/measures.html source])
| Unit used by H-Pi Instruments<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://musictheory.zentral.zone/huntsystem1.html H-Pi Instruments | Hunt Theoretical System]</ref><ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/m/mem.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Mem, 205-edo'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Mem]]
| [[Tredek]]
|[[205edo|205]]
| [[270edo|270]]
|5 × 41
| 2 × 3<sup>3</sup> × 5
|Unit used by [http://musictheory.zentral.zone/huntsystem1.html H-Pi Instruments]
| Proposed by [[Joseph Monzo]] (2013)<ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/t/tredek.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Tredek, 270-edo'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Tredek]]
| [[Savart]]*
|[[270edo|270]]
| [[300edo|300]]
|2 × 3<sup>3</sup> × 5
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup>
|
| [[Alexander Wood]]'s definition of the Savart<ref>''[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=NWZ8CgAAQBAJ&lpg=PT50&vq=savart&pg=PT51 The Physics of Music]'', Alexander Wood, 1944.</ref>, containing [[12edo]]. 
|-
|-
|[[Eptaméride|Heptaméride/Eptaméride]] or [[Savart]]
| [[Heptaméride]] / [[eptaméride]] / [[savart]]*
|[[301edo|301]]
| [[301edo|301]]
|7 × 43
| 7 × 43
|301 ≃ 1,000 * log<sub>10</sub>2; 1/7 of Méride unit; Proposed by Joseph Sauveur ([http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/e/equal-temperament.aspx 1701]), advocated by Félix Savart
| 301 ≃ 1,000 × log<sub>10</sub>2; 1/7 of Méride unit; proposed by Joseph Sauveur (1701), advocated by [[Félix Savart]]<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/h/heptameride.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Heptaméride'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Gene]]
| [[Gene]]
|[[311edo|311]]
| [[311edo|311]]
|PRIME
| 311 (prime)
|
| Proposed by Joseph Monzo (2007)<ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/g/gene.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Gene, 311-edo'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Dröbisch_Angle|Dröbisch Angle]]
| [[Dröbisch Angle]]
|[[360edo|360]]
| [[360edo|360]]
|2<sup>3</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5
|
| Proposed as ''angle'' by [[Moritz Dröbisch]] in the 19th century, later by [[Andrew Pikler]] as the current name in ''Logarithmic Frequency Systems'' (1966)<ref name="measure"/>.
|-
|-
|[[Squb]]
| [[Squb]]
|[[494edo|494]]
| [[494edo|494]]
|2 × 13 × 19
| 2 × 13 × 19
|
| Named after [[729/728]], the squbema, due to its similar size.
|-
|-
|[[Iring]]
| [[Great iring]] / [[great centitone|centitone]]
|[[600edo|600]]
| [[500edo|500]]
|2<sup>3</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup>
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>3</sup>
|
| {{Citation needed}}
|-
|-
|[[Skisma]]
| Dexl
|[[612edo|612]]
| [[540edo|540]]
|2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 17
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>3</sup> × 5
|
| Proposed by Joseph Monzo (2023)<ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/d/dexl.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Dexl, 540-edo'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Delfi]]
| [[Iring]] / [[centitone]]
|[[665edo|665]]
| [[600edo|600]]
|5 × 7 × 19
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup>
|
| [[Relative cent]] of [[6edo]]; proposed by [[Widogast Iring]] (1898), later by [[Joseph Yasser]] as a "centitone", a standard SI prefix + 12edo tone (1932)<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/c/centitone.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Centitone, iring'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Woolhouse]]
| [[Nil]] / [[skisma]] (Sk)
|[[730edo|730]]
| [[612edo|612]]
|2 × 5 × 73
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 17
|Proposed by Wesley S.B. Woolhouse in ''Essay on musical intervals'' (1835)
| Proposed by [[James Paul White]] (1894) as ''nil'', and by Gene Ward Smith (2007) as ''skisma''<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/s/sk.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Sk, 612-edo'']</ref>. Edo representation of [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]]'s Ultra (Herculean) precision level JI notation (58eda), where it is known as an "ultrina".
|-
|-
|[[millioctave]] (mO)
| [[Delfi]]
|[[1000edo|1000]]
| [[665edo|665]]
|2<sup>3</sup> × 5<sup>3</sup>
| 5 × 7 × 19
|[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix SI-prefix] division of octave
| <ref name="measure"/>
|-
|-
|[[cent]] (¢)
| [[Small iring]] / [[small centitone|centitone]]
|1200
| [[700edo|700]]
|2<sup>4</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup>
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> x 7
|1/100 of [[12edo|12ED2]] semitone
| {{Citation needed}}
|-
|-
|greater muon
| [[Woolhouse unit]]
|[[1224edo|1224]]
| [[730edo|730]]
|2<sup>3</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 17
| 2 × 5 × 73
|
| Proposed by [[Wesley S.B. Woolhouse]] (1835)<ref>[https://archive.org/details/essayonmusicali00woolgoog/page/n34/mode/2up ''Essay on musical intervals, harmonics, and the temperament of the musical scale, &c''], Wesley S.B. Woolhouse. </ref>.
|-
|-
|triangular cent
| [[Millioctave]] (moct)
|[[1260edo|1260]]
| [[1000edo|1000]]
|2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5 × 7
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 5<sup>3</sup>
|
| See the dedicated page.
|-
|-
|pion
| [[Cent]] (¢)
|[[1272edo|1272]]
| 1200
|2<sup>3</sup> × 3 × 53
| 2<sup>4</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>2</sup>
|
| See the dedicated page.
|-
|-
|pound
| Dingle
|[[1344edo|1344]]
| [[1395edo|1395]]
|2<sup>6</sup> × 3 × 7
| 3<sup>2</sup> × 5 × 31
|
| Proposed by [[User:Tristanbay|Tristan Bay]] (2026) as a 31edo-friendly fine-grain measure, shortened from "'''di'''esis a'''ngle'''".
|-
|-
|neutron
| Decifarab
|[[1392edo|1392]]
| [[1440edo|1440]]
|2<sup>4</sup> × 3 × 29
| 2<sup>5</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5
|
| Standard SI prefix + [[farab]]<ref name="measure"/>.
|-
|-
|lesser muon
| Heptamu (7mu)
|[[1428edo|1428]]
| [[1536edo|1536]]
|2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 7 × 17
| 2<sup>9</sup> × 3
|
| Seventh MIDI-resolution unit, 1/128 (1/(2<sup>7</sup>)) of [[12edo]] semitone<ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/number/7mu.aspx Tonalsoft | ''7mu / heptamu'']</ref>
|-
|-
|deciFarab
| śata
|[[1440edo|1440]]
| [[1600edo|1600]]
|2<sup>5</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5
| 2<sup>6</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup>  
|1/10 of Farab unit
| From Sanskrit ''śatam'': hundred; [[relative cent]] of Armodue 16edo theory{{Citation needed}}
|-
|-
|quadratic cent
| [[Iota]]
|[[1452edo|1452]]
| [[1700edo|1700]]
|2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 11<sup>2</sup>
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 17
|
| [[Relative cent]] of [[17edo]]; proposed by [[Margo Schulter]] (2002) and [[George Secor]]<ref name="measure"/>.
|-
|-
|ksion
| [[Harmos]]
|[[1476edo|1476]]
| [[1728edo|1728]]
|2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 41
| 2<sup>6</sup> × 3<sup>3</sup>
|
| 1728 = 12<sup>3</sup>; 1/144 of [[12edo]] semitone; Proposed by [[Paul Beaver]]<ref name="measure"/><ref name="equal">[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/e/equal-temperament.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Equal temperaments'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|cubic cent
| Hind śat / Indian cent
|[[1500edo|1500]]
| 2200
|2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 5<sup>3</sup>
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 11 × 5<sup>2</sup>
|
| {{Citation needed}}
|-
|-
|7mu
| [[Mina]]
|[[1536edo|1536]]
| [[2460edo|2460]]
|2<sup>9</sup> × 3
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 5 × 41
|(7th MIDI unit), seventh MIDI-resolution unit, 1/128 (1/(2<sup>7</sup>)) of [[12edo|12ED2]] semitone
| Abbreviation of "schismina", edo representation of [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]]'s Extreme (Olympian) precision level JI notation (233eda)<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/m/mina.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Mina'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|rhoon
| Centidiesis
|[[1560edo|1560]]
| 3100
|2<sup>3</sup> × 3 × 5 × 13
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> x 31
|
| {{Citation needed}}
|-
|-
|tile
| Centiméride
|[[1632edo|1632]]
| 4300
|2<sup>5</sup> × 3 × 17
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> x 43
|
| {{Citation needed}}
|-
|-
|[[Iota]]
| [[4320edo|Click]]
|[[1\1700_octave|1700]]
| [[4320edo|4320]]
|2<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 17
| 2<sup>5</sup> × 3<sup>3</sup> × 5
|[[Relative_cent|Relative cent]] of [[17edo|17ED2]]; proposed by [[Margo_Schulter|Schulter]] ([http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/measures.html source]) and [[George_Secor|Secor]] ([[Relative_cent|source]])
| Proposed by [[User:Eliora|Eliora]]. See the dedicated page.
|-
|-
|[[Harmos]]
| [[Major tina]]
|[[1728edo|1728]]
| [[8269edo|8269]]
|2<sup>6</sup> × 3<sup>3</sup>
| 8269 (prime)
|1728 = 12<sup>3</sup>; 1/144 of [[12edo|12ED2]] semitone; Proposed by Paul Beaver ([http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/e/equal-temperament.aspx source])
| Proposed by [[Flora Canou]] (2021)<ref>[https://forum.sagittal.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=515 The Sagittal Forum | ''Definition of the tina reviewed'']</ref>.  
|-
|-
|[[Mina]]
| [[Tina]]
|[[2460edo|2460]]
| [[8539edo|8539]]
|2<sup>2</sup> × 3 × 5 × 41
| 8539 (prime)
|Abbreviation of "schismina", ED2 representation of the "Olympian Level" of [[Sagittal_notation|Sagittal notation system]]
| Provides good approximations for 41-limit primes except 37; named by [[Dave Keenan]] and [[George Secor]]; edo representation of [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]]'s Insane (Magrathean) precision level JI notation (809eda)<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/t/tina.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Tina'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Tina]]
| [[Purdal]]
|[[8539edo|8539]]
| [[9900edo|9900]]
|PRIME
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 11
|Provides good approximations for 41-limit primes except 37 ([http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/t/tina.aspx source]); named by [[Dave_Keenan|Keenan]] and [[George_Secor|Secor]]
| [[Relative cent]] of [[99edo]]; suggested by [[Osmiorisbendi]], advocated by [[Tútim Dennsuul Wafiil]]. See the dedicated page.
|-
|-
|[[Purdal]]
| [[Türk sent]] / [[Turkish cent]]
|[[9900edo|9900]]
| [[10600edo|10600]]
|2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 11
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 53
|[[Relative_cent|Relative cent]] of [[99edo|99ED2]]; Suggested by [[Osmiorisbendi|Osmiorisbendi]], [[Relative_cent|advocated]] by [[Tútim_Dennsuul_Wafiil|Tútim Dennsuul]]  
| [[Relative cent]] of [[106edo]], 1/200 of [[53edo]]; invented by [[M. Ekrem Karadeniz]] (1965), influenced by [[Abdülkadir Töre]]<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/t/turk-sent.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Türk-sent'']</ref><ref>[http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/doctorate_thesis.pdf ''79-Tone Tuning & Theory for Turkish Maqam Music''], Ozan Yarman. </ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Türk_sent|Türk sent]] / [[Turkish_cent|Turkish Cent]]
| [[Prima]]
|[[10600edo|10600]]
| [[12276edo|12276]]
|2<sup>3</sup> × 5<sup>2</sup> × 53
| 2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 11 × 31
|[[Relative_cent|Relative cent]] of [[106edo|106ED2]], 1/200 of [[53edo|53ED2]]; invented by [http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/t/turk-sent.aspx M. Ekrem Karadeniz] (1965), influenced by  [https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/76124322.pdf Abdülkadir Töre]
| Proposed by [[Erv Wilson]], [[Gene Ward Smith]] and [[Gavin Putland]]<ref name="measure"/>.  
|-
|-
|[[Prima]]
| [[Jinn]]
|[[12276edo|12276]]
| [[16808edo|16808]]
|2<sup>2</sup> × 3<sup>2</sup> × 11 × 31
| 2<sup>3</sup> × 11 × 191
|
| See the dedicated page.
|-
|-
|[[Jinn]]
| [[Jot]]
|[[16808edo|16808]]
| [[30103edo|30103]]
|2<sup>3</sup> × 11 × 191
| 30103 (prime)
|
| 30103 ≃ 100,000 × log<sub>10</sub>2; proposed by [[Augustus de Morgan]] (1864)<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/j/jot.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Jot'']</ref><ref name="equal"/>.
|-
|-
|[[Jot]]
| [[Imp]]
|[[30103edo|30103]]
| [[31920edo|31920]]
|PRIME
| 2<sup>4</sup> × 3 × 5 × 7 × 19
|30103 ≃ 100,000 * log<sub>10</sub>2; Proposed by [http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/j/jot.aspx Augustus de Morgan]([http://tonalsoft.com/enc/e/equal-temperament.aspx 1864])
| <ref name="measure"/>
|-
|-
|[[Imp]]
| [[Flu]]
|[[31920edo|31920]]
| [[46032edo|46032]]
|2<sup>4</sup> × 3 × 5 × 7 × 19
| 2<sup>4</sup> × 3 × 7 × 137
|
| Proposed by Gene Ward Smith (2005)<ref name="measure"/><ref>[http://tonalsoft.com/enc/f/flu.aspx Tonalsoft | ''Flu'']</ref>.
|-
|-
|[[Flu]]
| [[Normal atom]]
|[[46032edo|46032]]
| [[78005edo|78005]]
|2<sup>4</sup> × 3 × 7 × 137
| 5 × 15601
|
| Proposed by Tristan Bay (2023); 78005edo consistently maps Kirnberger's atom to 1 edostep and is a very strong 5-limit system.
|-
|-
|[[MIDI_Tuning_Standard_unit|MIDI Tuning Standard unit]]
| [[MIDI Tuning Standard unit]] (14mu)
|[[196608edo|196608]]
| [[196608edo|196608]]
|2<sup>16</sup> × 3
| 2<sup>16</sup> × 3
|14mu (14th MIDI unit), fourteenth MIDI-resolution unit, 1/16384 (1/(2<sup>14</sup>)) of [[12edo|12ED2]] semitone
| Fourteenth MIDI-resolution unit, 1/16384 (1/(2<sup>14</sup>)) of [[12edo]] semitone<ref name="measure"/>.
|}
|}
<nowiki />* More to be added regarding the Heptaméride/Savart units


==== Non-octave fine measures ====
There are other fine measurements based upon the logarithmic division of other intervals (e.g. 3/1 (twelfth)), a few of which are listed below:
There are other fine measurements based upon the logarithmic division of other intervals (e.g. 3/1 (twelfth)), a few of which are listed below:
{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+List of Non-Octave Fine Measures (Logarithmic)
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | List of non-octave fine measures (logarithmic)
!Unit name (symbol):
!Interval based on:
!Divisions of Interval:
!Origin/Significance
|-
|-
|[[Hekt]]
! Unit name (symbol)
|3/1 (twelfth)
! Base interval
|1300
! Divisions of base interval
|1/100 of 13-ED3 (Bohlen-Pierce) scale step
! Origin/significance
|-
|-
|[[Grad]]
| Hekt
|531441/524288 (Pythagorean comma)
| 3/1 (twelfth)
|12
| 1300
|
| 1/100 of 13edt (Bohlen–Pierce) scale step
|-
| Euhekt
| 3/1 (twelfth)
| 3900
| 1/100 of 39edt (Triboh) scale step
|-
| Grad
| [[Pythagorean comma|531441/524288]] (Pythagorean comma)
| 12
| [[12edo]] flattens [[3/2]] by this amount
|-
|-
|[[Tuning unit]]
| Tuning unit
|531441/524288 (Pythagorean comma)
| [[531441/524288]] (Pythagorean comma)
|720
| 720
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|}
|}


See [http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/measures.html Logarithmic Interval Measures]
To ''convert hekts'', which is quite common in EDT systems, ''into cents'', use following formula: <code> c = h*12/13*math.log(3)/math.log(2) </code>
 
=== Relative measures ===
Within a given [[equal-step tuning|equal-stepped tuning system]], the [[relative cent]] (rct, r¢) can be used to describe properties of pitches (for instance the approximation of [[Just intonation|JI]] intervals). It is defined as on 100th (or 1 percent) of the interval between two neighbouring pitches in the used equal tuning.
 
== Ratio ==
Intervals can be measured also giving their [[ratio]]. For instance the major third as [[5/4]] or the pure fifth [[3/2]]. When combining sizes given in ratios, you have to multiply or divide:
 
a pure fifth increased by a major third gives the major seventh {{nowrap|3/2 × 5/4 {{=}} [[15/8]]}},


Within a given [[Equal-step tuning|equal]]-stepped tonal system, the [[Relative_cent|relative cent]] (rct, r¢) can be used to describe properties of pitches (for instance the approximation of [[Just intonation|JI]] intervals). It is defined as on 100th (or 1 percent) of the interval between two neighbouring pitches in the used equal tuning.
which is a diatonic semitone below an octave {{nowrap|([[2/1]]) / (15/8) {{=}} 2/1 × 8/15 {{=}} [[16/15]]}}.


see also: Kirnberger Atom http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249
Another notation for ratios is a vector of prime factor exponents, often called a [[monzo]], such as {{monzo| -4 4 -1 }} (for the syntonic comma, {{nowrap|81/80 = 2<sup>−4</sup> × 3<sup>4</sup> × 5<sup>−1</sup>}}), which builds a bridge back to the logarithmic measure: intervals can be combined by component-wise addition or subtraction of their vectors.


==Ratio==
== See also ==
Intervals can be measured also giving their [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_ratio (frequency) ratio]. For instance the major third as [[5/4|5/4]] or the pure fifth [[3/2|3/2]]. When combining sizes given in ratios, you have to multiply or divide:
* [[Interval span]]


a pure fifth increased by a major third gives the major seventh 3/2*5/4 = 15/8,
== Articles ==
* [http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249 ''Why the Kirnberger Kernel Is So Small''] by [[Don N. Page]]


which is a diatonic semitone below an octave (2/1)/(15/8) = 2/1*8/15 = 16/15.
== References ==
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Another notation for ratios is a vector of prime factor exponents, often called a [[monzo|monzo]], such as |-4 4 -1&gt; (for the syntonic comma, 81/80 = 2^(-4) * 3^4 * 5^(-1)), which builds a bridge back to the logarithmic measure: intervals can be combined by component-wise addition or subtraction of their vectors.
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Latest revision as of 12:00, 4 April 2026

Interval size measure or interval size unit means the distance between pitches. Intervals can be measured logarithmic or by frequency ratios.

Logarithmic

All logarithmic measures can be combined by adding and subtracting them.

Backslash notation

A common shorthand in use in the microtonal community is k\N, written with a backslash (\) instead of a forwardslash (/), to refer to an interval with a frequency ratio of 2k/N. k\N is pronounced "k steps of N edo", and can be derived from the meaning of "steps" in the context of edos (unless talking about steps of specific subsets/scales of some edo).

Steps are linear in the log-frequency domain, so expressions like 11\19 − 6\19 = 5\19 hold. In general, we have

a\N + b\N = (a + b)\N

which expresses the same thing as 2a/N × 2b/N = 2(a + b)/N.

Or equivalently, for subtraction/division:

a\Nb\N = (ab)\N

which expresses the same thing as 2a/N / 2b/N = 2(a - b)/N.

Backslash notation can be extended to support nonoctave equal tunings by writing the tuning in full after the backslash. For example, 11\13edt means 11 steps of 13edt, 14\9edf means 14 steps of 9edf, and 7\12ed12/5 means 7 steps of 12ed12/5.

Gross

The octave and the decade are common coarse units for interval sizes. The decibel, being a relative logarithmic-scale unit for power or root-power quantities, is inappropriate for measuring intervals; the decade is used instead. Similarly, the neper (Np) and the dineper (dNp), like the decibel, should not be used. However, in the absence of a substitute, dinepers have an application in logarithmic approximants.

Intervals are sometimes expressed in the number of scale steps between them. These steps can be of different size, compare for example the names of the major scale in the classic music. An early unit for measuring intervals is the "tone" which dates back to classic Greece.

In serial music, all intervals were measured by the number of 12edo semitones. In analogy, the relative interval measure is the number of steps between two pitches of an equal tuning, sometimes called "degrees". These measures can be written using backslash notation if the degree itself isn't sufficiently clear in context.

Fine

The cent (¢), 1\1200 octave, is the classic measure for intervals when more precision than 12edo is required. Some people object to it on the grounds that it is too (obviously) closely related to 12 equal.

Octave-based fine measures

The following table demonstrates a list of measures derived from the logarithmic division of the octave:

List of octave-based fine measures (logarithmic)
Unit name (symbol): Divisions of octave Prime factors Origin/significance
Eka 16 24 From Sanskrit eka: one, unit; chromatic unit of Armodue 16edo theory[1].
Normal shruti 22 2 × 11 Proposed by Tristan Bay (2025) in reference to the Indian tradition of dividing the octave into 22 unequal parts.
Normal diesis 31 31 (prime) See the dedicated page.
Dea 41 41 (prime) Proposed by Tristan Bay (2025) to reflect that a mina is a "minute" (1/60 the width) of a 1\41 "degree".
Méride 43 43 (prime) Proposed by Joseph Sauveur, as 7 heptaméride units[2][3].
Holdrian comma 53 53 (prime) See the dedicated page.
Mercator's old comma 55 5 × 11 Not to be confused with Mercator's comma.
Decitone 60 22 × 3 × 5 Standard SI prefix + 12edo tone
Morion 72 23 × 32 See the dedicated page.
Farab 144 24 × 32 1/12 of 12edo semitone; proposed by al-Farabi in 10th century[2][4].
Mem 205 5 × 41 Unit used by H-Pi Instruments[2][5][6].
Tredek 270 2 × 33 × 5 Proposed by Joseph Monzo (2013)[7].
Savart* 300 22 × 3 × 52 Alexander Wood's definition of the Savart[8], containing 12edo.
Heptaméride / eptaméride / savart* 301 7 × 43 301 ≃ 1,000 × log102; 1/7 of Méride unit; proposed by Joseph Sauveur (1701), advocated by Félix Savart[2][9].
Gene 311 311 (prime) Proposed by Joseph Monzo (2007)[10].
Dröbisch Angle 360 23 × 32 × 5 Proposed as angle by Moritz Dröbisch in the 19th century, later by Andrew Pikler as the current name in Logarithmic Frequency Systems (1966)[2].
Squb 494 2 × 13 × 19 Named after 729/728, the squbema, due to its similar size.
Great iring / centitone 500 22 × 53 [citation needed]
Dexl 540 22 × 33 × 5 Proposed by Joseph Monzo (2023)[11].
Iring / centitone 600 23 × 3 × 52 Relative cent of 6edo; proposed by Widogast Iring (1898), later by Joseph Yasser as a "centitone", a standard SI prefix + 12edo tone (1932)[2][12].
Nil / skisma (Sk) 612 22 × 32 × 17 Proposed by James Paul White (1894) as nil, and by Gene Ward Smith (2007) as skisma[2][13]. Edo representation of Sagittal's Ultra (Herculean) precision level JI notation (58eda), where it is known as an "ultrina".
Delfi 665 5 × 7 × 19 [2]
Small iring / centitone 700 22 × 52 x 7 [citation needed]
Woolhouse unit 730 2 × 5 × 73 Proposed by Wesley S.B. Woolhouse (1835)[14].
Millioctave (moct) 1000 23 × 53 See the dedicated page.
Cent (¢) 1200 24 × 3 × 52 See the dedicated page.
Dingle 1395 32 × 5 × 31 Proposed by Tristan Bay (2026) as a 31edo-friendly fine-grain measure, shortened from "diesis angle".
Decifarab 1440 25 × 32 × 5 Standard SI prefix + farab[2].
Heptamu (7mu) 1536 29 × 3 Seventh MIDI-resolution unit, 1/128 (1/(27)) of 12edo semitone[15]
śata 1600 26 × 52 From Sanskrit śatam: hundred; relative cent of Armodue 16edo theory[citation needed]
Iota 1700 22 × 52 × 17 Relative cent of 17edo; proposed by Margo Schulter (2002) and George Secor[2].
Harmos 1728 26 × 33 1728 = 123; 1/144 of 12edo semitone; Proposed by Paul Beaver[2][16].
Hind śat / Indian cent 2200 23 × 11 × 52 [citation needed]
Mina 2460 22 × 3 × 5 × 41 Abbreviation of "schismina", edo representation of Sagittal's Extreme (Olympian) precision level JI notation (233eda)[2][17].
Centidiesis 3100 22 × 52 x 31 [citation needed]
Centiméride 4300 22 × 52 x 43 [citation needed]
Click 4320 25 × 33 × 5 Proposed by Eliora. See the dedicated page.
Major tina 8269 8269 (prime) Proposed by Flora Canou (2021)[18].
Tina 8539 8539 (prime) Provides good approximations for 41-limit primes except 37; named by Dave Keenan and George Secor; edo representation of Sagittal's Insane (Magrathean) precision level JI notation (809eda)[2][19].
Purdal 9900 22 × 32 × 52 × 11 Relative cent of 99edo; suggested by Osmiorisbendi, advocated by Tútim Dennsuul Wafiil. See the dedicated page.
Türk sent / Turkish cent 10600 23 × 52 × 53 Relative cent of 106edo, 1/200 of 53edo; invented by M. Ekrem Karadeniz (1965), influenced by Abdülkadir Töre[2][20][21].
Prima 12276 22 × 32 × 11 × 31 Proposed by Erv Wilson, Gene Ward Smith and Gavin Putland[2].
Jinn 16808 23 × 11 × 191 See the dedicated page.
Jot 30103 30103 (prime) 30103 ≃ 100,000 × log102; proposed by Augustus de Morgan (1864)[2][22][16].
Imp 31920 24 × 3 × 5 × 7 × 19 [2]
Flu 46032 24 × 3 × 7 × 137 Proposed by Gene Ward Smith (2005)[2][23].
Normal atom 78005 5 × 15601 Proposed by Tristan Bay (2023); 78005edo consistently maps Kirnberger's atom to 1 edostep and is a very strong 5-limit system.
MIDI Tuning Standard unit (14mu) 196608 216 × 3 Fourteenth MIDI-resolution unit, 1/16384 (1/(214)) of 12edo semitone[2].

* More to be added regarding the Heptaméride/Savart units

Non-octave fine measures

There are other fine measurements based upon the logarithmic division of other intervals (e.g. 3/1 (twelfth)), a few of which are listed below:

List of non-octave fine measures (logarithmic)
Unit name (symbol) Base interval Divisions of base interval Origin/significance
Hekt 3/1 (twelfth) 1300 1/100 of 13edt (Bohlen–Pierce) scale step
Euhekt 3/1 (twelfth) 3900 1/100 of 39edt (Triboh) scale step
Grad 531441/524288 (Pythagorean comma) 12 12edo flattens 3/2 by this amount
Tuning unit 531441/524288 (Pythagorean comma) 720

To convert hekts, which is quite common in EDT systems, into cents, use following formula: c = h*12/13*math.log(3)/math.log(2)

Relative measures

Within a given equal-stepped tuning system, the relative cent (rct, r¢) can be used to describe properties of pitches (for instance the approximation of JI intervals). It is defined as on 100th (or 1 percent) of the interval between two neighbouring pitches in the used equal tuning.

Ratio

Intervals can be measured also giving their ratio. For instance the major third as 5/4 or the pure fifth 3/2. When combining sizes given in ratios, you have to multiply or divide:

a pure fifth increased by a major third gives the major seventh 3/2 × 5/4 = 15/8,

which is a diatonic semitone below an octave (2/1) / (15/8) = 2/1 × 8/15 = 16/15.

Another notation for ratios is a vector of prime factor exponents, often called a monzo, such as [-4 4 -1 (for the syntonic comma, 2−4 × 34 × 5−1), which builds a bridge back to the logarithmic measure: intervals can be combined by component-wise addition or subtraction of their vectors.

See also

Articles

References