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| | '''11/10''', the '''large undecimal neutral second''' or '''undecimal submajor second''', is the simplest submajor second. It is 15 cents sharp of [[12/11]] and 17 cents flat of [[10/9]]. When tuned [[just]] or near-just, it not only has the very exotic melodic role of being almost exactly a third of [[4/3]], leading to [[4000/3993]] being [[Fudging|fudged]], but is also very close in size to a stack consisting of an [[apotome]] and [[33/32]], leading to the [[schisma]] being fudged. Keeping 11/10 distinct from 12/11 ensures that 11/10 bridges [[quartertone]]-based chords with more typical [[5-limit]] and [[Pythagorean tuning|Pythagorean]] chords as a step between notes. |
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| 11/10, the large neutral second, is an interval favored by Ptolemy. Three of them are less than 4/3 by the wizardharry comma, 4000/3993. | | 11/10 is the [[octave-reduced]] form of [[11/5]], one of the three most [[concordant]] 11-limit intervals within the entire [[4/1|first two octaves]] along with [[11/4]] and [[11/3]]. |
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| Coincidentally, the interval between the most common tuning frequency (A440) and the second most common AC electrical frequency (50hz) is exactly 44/5, or three octaves above an 11/10.
| | == Approximation == |
| | 11/10 is approximated extremely precisely by [[80edo]] and its multiples, with a chain of 80 11/10's failing to close at the octave by a mere third of a [[cent]], close enough that you could theoretically tune an instrument to 80edo by ear using it if you had the patience. 11/10 is also approximated within 2 cents by [[22edo]], and is 4c sharp of an octave-reduced stack of 9 generators in [[BPS]]. |
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| | == Temperaments == |
| | Using 11/10 as a generator and tempering out 4000/3993 (as previously mentioned) leads to temperaments that look like [[porcupine]] but whose harmonies have higher accuracy. A [[semi-octave]] period is exceptionally natural when 11/10 is a generator, because by virtue of making the extremely accurate approximation of the half-octave by [[99/70]], [[9/7]] is found as the period-complement of the generator. Taking this approach, this gives us temperaments in the [[stearnsmic clan]] such as [[pogo]], [[supers]], or [[echidna]], all of which observe [[100/99]][[~]][[121/120]] and find accurate [[11-limit]] and no-13's [[17-limit]] harmonies. The three temperaments have the same mapping in the 2.3.7.11/5.17 subgroup and only differ on the mapping of 5 and 11. Of these, echidna's mapping of the no-13's 17-limit is the simplest. The complexity of pogo rewards you with increased accuracy, being a weak schismic extension, and supers shows an intermediate path between them. |
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| See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]</pre></div>
| | Using sqrt(11/10) ([[21/20]]~[[22/21]]) as a generator leads to the low-complexity [[nautilus]] with one period to the octave, and if you use two periods to the octave with this generator you get the high-accuracy temperament [[harry]]; using cbrt(11/10) as a generator leads to [[escapade]] with one period to the octave. |
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| | == See also == |
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| | * [[20/11]] – its [[octave complement]] |
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| | * [[15/11]] – its [[fifth complement]] |
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| | * [[40/33]] – its [[fourth complement]] |
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| | * [[Gallery of just intervals]] |
| 11/10, the large neutral second, is an interval favored by Ptolemy. Three of them are less than 4/3 by the wizardharry comma, 4000/3993.<br />
| | * [[List of superparticular intervals]] |
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| Coincidentally, the interval between the most common tuning frequency (A440) and the second most common AC electrical frequency (50hz) is exactly 44/5, or three octaves above an 11/10.<br />
| | [[Category:Second]] |
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| | [[Category:Neutral second]] |
| See: <a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals">Gallery of Just Intervals</a></body></html></pre></div>
| | [[Category:Submajor second]] |
| | [[Category:Over-5 intervals]] |
| | [[Category:Equable heptatonic]] |