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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">In [[11-limit]] [[Just Intonation]], 11/7 is an undecimal (11-based) subminor sixth, measuring about 782.5¢ It is the inversion of [[14_11|14/11]], the undecimal supermajor third. Another subminor sixth is [[14_9|14/9]], at about 764.9¢; the interval between these is [[99_98|99/98]], about 17.6¢.


11/7 is [[22_21|22/21]] (about 80.5¢) above the [[3_2|3/2]] perfect fifth, allowing the possibility of a resolution down by a step from 11/7 to 3/2.
In [[11-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''11/7''' is an '''undecimal minor sixth''', specifically the '''pentacircle minor sixth''', measuring about 782.5 [[cent]]s. It is the inversion of [[14/11]], the pentacircle major third, and represents the difference between the 7th and 11th harmonics of the [[harmonic series]].  


See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]</pre></div>
In many notation systems (e.g. [[FJS]], [[HEJI]]), it is an imperfect fifth, as it is a [[3/2|perfect fifth (3/2)]] plus an instance of [[22/21]], which is a stack consisting of an [[33/32|undecimal quartertone (33/32)]] and a [[64/63|septimal comma (64/63)]], neither of which changes the [[scale|scale degree]] or [[interval quality|quality]]. It functions as such in voicings of the harmonic eleventh chord, [[4:5:6:7:9:11]].
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;11_7&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;In &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11-limit"&gt;11-limit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20Intonation"&gt;Just Intonation&lt;/a&gt;, 11/7 is an undecimal (11-based) subminor sixth, measuring about 782.It is the inversion of &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/14_11"&gt;14/11&lt;/a&gt;, the undecimal supermajor third. Another subminor sixth is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/14_9"&gt;14/9&lt;/a&gt;, at about 764.9¢; the interval between these is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/99_98"&gt;99/98&lt;/a&gt;, about 17.6¢.&lt;br /&gt;
However, it is only flat of the [[128/81|Pythagorean minor sixth]] (about 792.2{{c}}) by a [[896/891|pentacircle comma (896/891)]], which makes it function sometimes as a minor sixth, hence the names. For one thing, as it is 22/21 (about 80.5{{c}}) above the perfect fifth, it can be resolved down by a step to the perfect fifth.  
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11/7 is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22_21"&gt;22/21&lt;/a&gt; (about 80.5¢) above the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3_2"&gt;3/2&lt;/a&gt; perfect fifth, allowing the possibility of a resolution down by a step from 11/7 to 3/2.&lt;br /&gt;
It is flat of the 5-limit minor sixth of [[8/5]] (about 813.7{{c}}) by [[56/55]]. It is sharp of the 7-limit subminor sixth of [[14/9]] (about 764.9{{c}}) by a mothwellsma, [[99/98]]. And finally, it is sharp of the classic augmented fifth of [[25/16]] (about 772.6{{c}}) by a valinorsma, [[176/175]].
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See: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals"&gt;Gallery of Just Intervals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
== Approximation ==
{{Interval edo approximation|11/7}}
 
== Proximity with acoustic pi ==
[[22/7]], one octave higher, is a fraction convergent to the continued fraction of acoustic pi. Such is the exactness, that 22/7π is an [[unnoticeable comma]] of only 0.7 cents.
 
== See also ==
* [[14/11]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[21/11]] – its [[twelfth complement]]
* [[Ed11/7]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[:File:Ji-11-7-csound-foscil-220hz.mp3]] – another sound example
 
[[Category:Over-7 intervals]]
[[Category:Sixth]]
[[Category:Minor sixth]]
[[Category:Subminor sixth]]
[[Category:Pentacircle]]
[[Category:Taxicab-2 intervals]]

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Interval information
Ratio 11/7
Factorization 7-1 × 11
Monzo [0 0 0 -1 1
Size in cents 782.492¢
Names undecimal minor sixth,
pentacircle minor sixth
Color name 1or5, loru 5th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P5}^{11}_{7} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 6.26679
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 6.91886
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 18

[sound info]
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In 11-limit just intonation, 11/7 is an undecimal minor sixth, specifically the pentacircle minor sixth, measuring about 782.5 cents. It is the inversion of 14/11, the pentacircle major third, and represents the difference between the 7th and 11th harmonics of the harmonic series.

In many notation systems (e.g. FJS, HEJI), it is an imperfect fifth, as it is a perfect fifth (3/2) plus an instance of 22/21, which is a stack consisting of an undecimal quartertone (33/32) and a septimal comma (64/63), neither of which changes the scale degree or quality. It functions as such in voicings of the harmonic eleventh chord, 4:5:6:7:9:11.

However, it is only flat of the Pythagorean minor sixth (about 792.2 ¢) by a pentacircle comma (896/891), which makes it function sometimes as a minor sixth, hence the names. For one thing, as it is 22/21 (about 80.5 ¢) above the perfect fifth, it can be resolved down by a step to the perfect fifth.

It is flat of the 5-limit minor sixth of 8/5 (about 813.7 ¢) by 56/55. It is sharp of the 7-limit subminor sixth of 14/9 (about 764.9 ¢) by a mothwellsma, 99/98. And finally, it is sharp of the classic augmented fifth of 25/16 (about 772.6 ¢) by a valinorsma, 176/175.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 11/7 (782.49 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
3 2\3 800.00 +17.51 +4.38
6 4\6 800.00 +17.51 +8.75
17 11\17 776.47 -6.02 -8.53
20 13\20 780.00 -2.49 -4.15
23 15\23 782.61 +0.12 +0.22
26 17\26 784.62 +2.12 +4.60
29 19\29 786.21 +3.71 +8.98
40 26\40 780.00 -2.49 -8.31
43 28\43 781.40 -1.10 -3.93
46 30\46 782.61 +0.12 +0.45
49 32\49 783.67 +1.18 +4.82
52 34\52 784.62 +2.12 +9.20
63 41\63 780.95 -1.54 -8.08
66 43\66 781.82 -0.67 -3.71
69 45\69 782.61 +0.12 +0.67
72 47\72 783.33 +0.84 +5.05
75 49\75 784.00 +1.51 +9.42

Proximity with acoustic pi

22/7, one octave higher, is a fraction convergent to the continued fraction of acoustic pi. Such is the exactness, that 22/7π is an unnoticeable comma of only 0.7 cents.

See also