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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Icon =
| Name = septendecimal major seventh, septendecimal diminished octave
| Ratio = 32/17
| Monzo = 5 0 0 0 0 0 -1
| Cents = 1095.04459
| Name = small septendecimal major seventh
| Color name = 17u7, su 7th
| Color name = 17u7, su 7th
| FJS name = M7<sub>17</sub>
| Sound = jid_32_17_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Sound = jid_32_17_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
}}
}}
In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''32/17''' is the '''septendecimal major seventh''' or the '''septendecimal diminished octave''', depending on how one views it. It is also the octave-reduced 17th [[subharmonic]]. Its inversion is [[17/16]], the octave-reduced 17th harmonic. Measuring about 1095{{cent}}, it is the [[mediant]] between [[15/8]] and [[17/9]].


In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''32/17''' is the '''small septendecimal major seventh''', as well as the 17th [[subharmonic]] octave-reduced. Measuring about 1095¢, it is the [[mediant]] between [[15/8]] and [[17/9]], the "large septendecimal major seventh". Its inversion is [[17/16]], the "large septendecimal semitone".
== Terminology and notation ==
There exists a disagreement in different conceptualization systems on whether 32/17 should be a major seventh or a diminished octave. The major seventh view corresponds to [[Functional Just System]], with the formal comma [[4131/4096]] separating it from [[243/128]], the Pythagorean major seventh. The diminished octave view corresponds to [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]], with the formal comma [[2187/2176]] separating it from [[4096/2187]], the Pythagorean diminished octave.  


There exists a disagreement in different notation systems on whether 32/17 should be notated as a major seventh or a diminished octave. In [[Functional Just System]], it is a major seventh, whereas in [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]], it is a diminished octave.  
In practice, the interval category may, arguably, vary by context. One solution for the JI user who uses expanded [[circle-of-fifths notation]] is to prepare a [[Pythagorean comma]] accidental so that the interval can be notated in either category.
== Approximation ==
{{Interval edo approximation|32/17}}


== See also ==
== See also ==
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* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]


[[Category:17-limit]]
[[Category:Interval ratio]]
[[Category:Just interval]]
[[Category:Seventh]]
[[Category:Seventh]]
[[Category:Major seventh]]
[[Category:Major seventh]]
[[Category:Octave]]
[[Category:Diminished octave]]

Latest revision as of 13:14, 3 November 2025

Interval information
Ratio 32/17
Subgroup monzo 2.17 [5 -1
Size in cents 1095.045¢
Names septendecimal major seventh,
septendecimal diminished octave
Color name 17u7, su 7th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{M7}_{17} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced subharmonic
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 9.08746
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 10
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 27

[sound info]
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In 17-limit just intonation, 32/17 is the septendecimal major seventh or the septendecimal diminished octave, depending on how one views it. It is also the octave-reduced 17th subharmonic. Its inversion is 17/16, the octave-reduced 17th harmonic. Measuring about 1095 ¢, it is the mediant between 15/8 and 17/9.

Terminology and notation

There exists a disagreement in different conceptualization systems on whether 32/17 should be a major seventh or a diminished octave. The major seventh view corresponds to Functional Just System, with the formal comma 4131/4096 separating it from 243/128, the Pythagorean major seventh. The diminished octave view corresponds to Helmholtz-Ellis notation, with the formal comma 2187/2176 separating it from 4096/2187, the Pythagorean diminished octave.

In practice, the interval category may, arguably, vary by context. One solution for the JI user who uses expanded circle-of-fifths notation is to prepare a Pythagorean comma accidental so that the interval can be notated in either category.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 32/17 (1095.04 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
11 10\11 1090.91 -4.14 -3.79
12 11\12 1100.00 +4.96 +4.96
22 20\22 1090.91 -4.14 -7.58
23 21\23 1095.65 +0.61 +1.16
24 22\24 1100.00 +4.96 +9.91
34 31\34 1094.12 -0.93 -2.63
35 32\35 1097.14 +2.10 +6.12
45 41\45 1093.33 -1.71 -6.42
46 42\46 1095.65 +0.61 +2.33
57 52\57 1094.74 -0.31 -1.46
58 53\58 1096.55 +1.51 +7.28
68 62\68 1094.12 -0.93 -5.25
69 63\69 1095.65 +0.61 +3.49
79 72\79 1093.67 -1.37 -9.04
80 73\80 1095.00 -0.04 -0.30

See also