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=== Prime harmonics === | === Prime harmonics === | ||
{{ | {{Harmonics in equal|49}} | ||
=== Miscellany === | === Miscellany === | ||
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| D | | D | ||
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(*) Based on 49edo's 11-limit patent val {{val|49 78 114 138 170}} mapping | (*) Based on 49edo's 11-limit patent val {{val| 49 78 114 138 170 }} mapping | ||
== Acoustic ϕ and ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup> == | == Acoustic ϕ and ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup> == | ||
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! Interval | ! Interval | ||
! Error (abs, [[Cent|¢]]) | ! Error (abs, [[Cent|¢]]) | ||
!#\49 | ! #\49 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| ϕ / ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup> = ϕ<sup>(2-ϕ)</sup> | | ϕ / ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup> = ϕ<sup>(2-ϕ)</sup> | ||
| 0.155 | | 0.155 | ||
|13 | | 13 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| ϕ | | ϕ | ||
| -0.437 | | -0.437 | ||
|34 | | 34 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup> | | ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup> | ||
| -0.592 | | -0.592 | ||
|21 | | 21 | ||
|} | |} | ||
Not until [[592edo|592]] do we find a better | Not until [[592edo|592]] do we find a better edo in terms of relative error on these two intervals (but whose edo-steps upon which these intervals are mapped are not based on the Fibonacci sequence, unlike 49edo). | ||
=== Music === | === Music === | ||
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZyAm-D3nlk&ab_channel=Sevish Sevish - Star Nursery] uses a scale based on [[acoustic phi]] and ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup>. 49edo provides a suitable approximation for this scale with the mode: 5 3 5 5 3 5 3 5 | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZyAm-D3nlk&ab_channel=Sevish Sevish - Star Nursery] uses a scale based on [[acoustic phi]] and ϕ<sup>ϕ<sup>-1</sup></sup>. 49edo provides a suitable approximation for this scale with the mode: 5 3 5 5 3 5 3 5 | ||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | {| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | ||
! rowspan="2" | Subgroup | ! rowspan="2" | [[Subgroup]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list|Comma List]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve | ! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve Sstretch (¢) | ||
! colspan="2" | Tuning | ! colspan="2" | Tuning Error | ||
|- | |- | ||
! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢) | ! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢) | ||
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=== Rank-2 temperaments === | === Rank-2 temperaments === | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all left- | {| class="wikitable center-all left-4" | ||
|+ Rank-2 temperaments by generators | |+ Rank-2 temperaments by generators | ||
! Periods<br>per | ! Periods<br>per 8ve | ||
! Generator | ! Generator | ||
! Associated Ratio | |||
! Temperaments | ! Temperaments | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 1\49 | | 1\49 | ||
| 99/98 | |||
| [[Sengagen]] | | [[Sengagen]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 4\49 | | 4\49 | ||
| 16/15 | |||
| [[Passion]] | | [[Passion]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 6\49 | | 6\49 | ||
| 12/11 | |||
| [[Bohpier]] | | [[Bohpier]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 8\49 | | 8\49 | ||
| 28/25 | |||
| [[Didacus]] | | [[Didacus]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 11\49 | | 11\49 | ||
| 7/6 | |||
| [[Infraorwell]] | | [[Infraorwell]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 12\49 | | 12\49 | ||
| 25/21 | |||
| [[Kleiboh]] | | [[Kleiboh]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 13\49 | | 13\49 | ||
| | | 6/5 | ||
| [[Catalan]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 16\49 | | 16\49 | ||
| 5/4 | |||
| [[Magus]] | | [[Magus]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 17\49 | | 17\49 | ||
| 14/11 | |||
| [[Sqrtphi]] | | [[Sqrtphi]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 18\49 | | 18\49 | ||
| 9/7 | |||
| [[Clyde]] | | [[Clyde]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 19\49 | | 19\49 | ||
| 55/36 | |||
| [[Semisept]] | | [[Semisept]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 20\49 | | 20\49 | ||
| | | 4/3 | ||
| [[Superpyth]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 | | 7 | ||
| 20\49 | | 20\49 | ||
| [[Sevond]]<br>[[Seville]] | | 4/3 | ||
| [[Sevond]] (49)<br>[[Seville]] (49c) | |||
|} | |} | ||
[[Category:Superpyth]] | [[Category:Superpyth]] | ||
[[Category:Archytas]] | [[Category:Archytas]] | ||
[[Category:Ares]] | [[Category:Ares]] | ||
Revision as of 05:46, 4 September 2023
| ← 48edo | 49edo | 50edo → |
Theory
49edo is very much on the sharp side of things, with sharp tunings of harmonics 3, 5, 7, and 11. It is the optimal patent val for superpyth temperament in the 7- and 11-limit, archytas (7-limit) and ares (11-limit) planar temperaments and almost identical to the e-based analog of Lucy tuning. It tempers out 64/63, 245/243 and 3125/3087 in the 7-limit, and 100/99 and 1375/1372 in the 11-limit.
Prime harmonics
| Harmonic | 3 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 11 | 13 | 15 | 17 | 19 | 21 | 23 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | +8.2 | +5.5 | +10.8 | -8.0 | +11.9 | -7.9 | -10.7 | -7.0 | -3.6 | -5.5 | +8.5 |
| Relative (%) | +33.7 | +22.6 | +44.0 | -32.6 | +48.8 | -32.2 | -43.8 | -28.6 | -14.8 | -22.4 | +34.5 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
78 (29) |
114 (16) |
138 (40) |
155 (8) |
170 (23) |
181 (34) |
191 (44) |
200 (4) |
208 (12) |
215 (19) |
222 (26) | |
Miscellany
49edo is the first square equal division with a "real" 3 of step coprime to its cardinality.
Intervals
| # | Cents | Approximate Ratios (*) | Notation |
|---|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.000 | 1/1 | D |
| 1 | 24.490 | 50/49 | ^D |
| 2 | 48.980 | 81/80, 28/27, 36/35, 49/48 | Eb/^^D |
| 3 | 73.469 | 25/24, 22/21, 33/32 | ^Eb/^^^D |
| 4 | 97.959 | 16/15, 21/20 | ^^Eb/Fb/vvvD# |
| 5 | 122.449 | 15/14 | ^^^Eb/vvD# |
| 6 | 146.939 | 12/11 | vvvE/vD# |
| 7 | 171.429 | 10/9, 11/10 | vvE/D# |
| 8 | 195.918 | 28/25 | vE |
| 9 | 220.408 | 9/8, 8/7 | E |
| 10 | 244.898 | 125/108, 144/125 | ^E/vF |
| 11 | 269.388 | 7/6 | F |
| 12 | 293.878 | 25/21, 33/28 | ^F |
| 13 | 318.367 | 6/5 | ^^F/Gb |
| 14 | 342.857 | 11/9 | ^^^F/^Gb |
| 15 | 367.347 | 27/22 | vvvF#/^^Gb |
| 16 | 391.837 | 5/4 | vvF#/E# |
| 17 | 416.327 | 14/11 | vF# |
| 18 | 440.816 | 9/7 | F# |
| 19 | 465.306 | 125/96, 162/125 | ^F# |
| 20 | 489.796 | 4/3, 21/16 | G |
| 21 | 514.286 | 75/56 | ^G/vAb |
| 22 | 538.776 | 27/20, 15/11 | Ab/^^G |
| 23 | 563.265 | 11/8 | ^Ab/^^^G |
| 24 | 587.755 | 7/5 | ^^Ab/vvvG# |
| 25 | 612.245 | 10/7 | vvG#/^^^Ab |
| 26 | 636.735 | 16/11 | vG#/vvvA |
| 27 | 661.244 | 40/27, 22/15 | G#/vvA |
| 28 | 685.714 | 112/75 | vA/^G# |
| 29 | 710.204 | 3/2, 32/21 | A |
| 30 | 734.694 | 125/81, 192/125 | ^A/vBb |
| 31 | 759.184 | 14/9 | Bb/^^A |
| 32 | 783.673 | 11/7 | ^Bb/vCb/^^^A |
| 33 | 808.163 | 8/5 | Cb/^^Bb/vvvA# |
| 34 | 832.653 | 44/27 | ^^^Bb/^Cb/vvA# |
| 35 | 857.143 | 18/11 | vvvB/^^Cb/vA# |
| 36 | 881.633 | 5/3 | vvB/^^^Cb/A# |
| 37 | 906.122 | 42/25, 56/33 | vB/vvvC |
| 38 | 930.612 | 12/7 | B/vvC |
| 39 | 955.102 | 125/72, 216/125 | ^B/vC |
| 40 | 979.592 | 16/9, 7/4 | C/^^B |
| 41 | 1004.082 | 25/14 | ^C/^^^B |
| 42 | 1028.571 | 9/5, 20/11 | ^^C/vvvB#/Db |
| 43 | 1053.061 | 11/6 | ^^^C/vvB#/^Db |
| 44 | 1077.551 | 28/15 | vvvC#/vB#/^^Db |
| 45 | 1102.041 | 15/8, 40/21 | vvC#/B#/^^^Db |
| 46 | 1126.531 | 48/25, 21/11, 64/33 | vC#/vvvD |
| 47 | 1151.020 | 160/81, 27/14, 35/18, 96/49 | C#/vvD |
| 48 | 1175.510 | 49/25 | vD |
| 49 | 1200.000 | 2/1 | D |
(*) Based on 49edo's 11-limit patent val ⟨49 78 114 138 170] mapping
Acoustic ϕ and ϕϕ-1
49edo has a very close approximation of both acoustic phi and ϕϕ-1, a kind of logarithmic phi that divides acoustic phi logarithmically by phi (instead of dividing 2/1).
ϕϕ-1 has interesting applications as Metallic MOS, and in particular the fractal-like possibilities of self-similar subdivision of musical scales within acoustic phi.
| Interval | Error (abs, ¢) | #\49 |
|---|---|---|
| ϕ / ϕϕ-1 = ϕ(2-ϕ) | 0.155 | 13 |
| ϕ | -0.437 | 34 |
| ϕϕ-1 | -0.592 | 21 |
Not until 592 do we find a better edo in terms of relative error on these two intervals (but whose edo-steps upon which these intervals are mapped are not based on the Fibonacci sequence, unlike 49edo).
Music
- Sevish - Star Nursery uses a scale based on acoustic phi and ϕϕ-1. 49edo provides a suitable approximation for this scale with the mode: 5 3 5 5 3 5 3 5
Regular temperament properties
| Subgroup | Comma List | Mapping | Optimal 8ve Sstretch (¢) |
Tuning Error | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Absolute (¢) | Relative (%) | ||||
| 2.3 | [78 -49⟩ | [⟨49 78]] | -2.60 | 2.60 | 10.62 |
| 2.3.5 | 15625/15552, 20480/19683 | [⟨49 78 114]] | -2.53 | 2.12 | 8.69 |
| 2.3.5.7 | 64/63, 245/243, 3125/3087 | [⟨49 78 114 138]] | -2.85 | 1.92 | 7.87 |
| 2.3.5.7.11 | 64/63, 100/99, 245/243, 1331/1323 | [⟨49 78 114 138 170]] | -2.97 | 1.74 | 7.11 |
Rank-2 temperaments
| Periods per 8ve |
Generator | Associated Ratio | Temperaments |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 1\49 | 99/98 | Sengagen |
| 1 | 4\49 | 16/15 | Passion |
| 1 | 6\49 | 12/11 | Bohpier |
| 1 | 8\49 | 28/25 | Didacus |
| 1 | 11\49 | 7/6 | Infraorwell |
| 1 | 12\49 | 25/21 | Kleiboh |
| 1 | 13\49 | 6/5 | Catalan |
| 1 | 16\49 | 5/4 | Magus |
| 1 | 17\49 | 14/11 | Sqrtphi |
| 1 | 18\49 | 9/7 | Clyde |
| 1 | 19\49 | 55/36 | Semisept |
| 1 | 20\49 | 4/3 | Superpyth |
| 7 | 20\49 | 4/3 | Sevond (49) Seville (49c) |