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* Interestingly, there is evidence that another Xen Discord user ([[user:Flirora]]) suggested the same naming system described here up to 3 generations, with only slight differences with 3rd-generation names. As I was part of a discussion on limiting TAMNAMS names to 10-note mosses, which facilitated naming mosdescendants up to two generations (mosenharmonic scales), rather than this earlier suggestion, it's possible that the same proposal for mosenharmonic scales may have been independently developed twice. | * Interestingly, there is evidence that another Xen Discord user ([[user:Flirora]]) suggested the same naming system described here up to 3 generations, with only slight differences with 3rd-generation names. As I was part of a discussion on limiting TAMNAMS names to 10-note mosses, which facilitated naming mosdescendants up to two generations (mosenharmonic scales), rather than this earlier suggestion, it's possible that the same proposal for mosenharmonic scales may have been independently developed twice. | ||
* Some names with this system are not finalized, particularly the term "mosschismic" and some of the single-letter prefixes. | * Some names with this system are not finalized, particularly the term "mosschismic" and some of the single-letter prefixes. | ||
** Better names than "mosschismic" include "mossubharmonic" (adapted from the suggestion | ** Better names than "mosschismic" include "mossubharmonic" (adapted from the above suggestion which had "prefix-sub-prefix-enharmonic") and "mossubchromatic", possibly shortened to "mossubchromic" (adapted from "subchromatic", as seen in [[Diatonic, Chromatic, Enharmonic, Subchromatic|this page]]). | ||
** | ** An issue with using letter-based prefixes is that many of them are based on temperaments. A temperament-agnostic interpretation will be needed if these letters are to be generalized outside of the diatonic family. | ||
** Yet another issue is that the pattern of f-, m-, p-, and s- does not continue with 3rd-generation mosses in that f- and s- are no longer at the extremes and p- is no longer at the midpoint. Either 3rd-generation mosses need a different set of prefixes, or | ** Yet another issue is that the pattern of f-, m-, p-, and s-, all based on temperaments, does not continue with 3rd-generation mosses in that f- and s- are no longer at the extremes and p- is no longer at the midpoint (see table below). Either 3rd-generation mosses need a different set of prefixes, or a different set of prefixes are needed throughout. | ||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
! rowspan="2" |Diatonic scale | |||
! colspan="2" |Child scales | |||
! colspan="2" |Grandchild scales | |||
! colspan="2" |Great-grandchild scales | |||
|- | |||
!Steps | |||
!Notable temperament(s) | |||
!Steps | |||
!Notable temperament(s) | |||
!Steps | |||
!Notable temperament(s) | |||
|- | |||
| rowspan="8" |[[5L 2s]] | |||
| rowspan="4" |[[7L 5s]] | |||
| rowspan="4" |meantone | |||
| rowspan="2" |[[7L 12s]] | |||
| rowspan="2" |flattone | |||
|[[7L 19s]] | |||
|tridecimal | |||
|- | |||
|[[19L 7s]] | |||
|'''flattone''' | |||
|- | |||
| rowspan="2" |[[12L 7s]] | |||
| rowspan="2" |meantone | |||
|[[19L 12s]] | |||
|'''meanpop''' | |||
|- | |||
|[[12L 19s]] | |||
|huygens | |||
|- | |||
| rowspan="4" |[[5L 7s]] | |||
| rowspan="4" |pythagorean | |||
| rowspan="2" |[[12L 5s]] | |||
| rowspan="2" |pythagorean | |||
|[[12L 17s]] | |||
|'''pythagorean''' | |||
|- | |||
|[[17L 12s]] | |||
|gentle | |||
|- | |||
| rowspan="2" |[[5L 12s]] | |||
| rowspan="2" |superpyth | |||
|[[17L 5s]] | |||
|'''superpyth''' | |||
|- | |||
|[[5L 17s]] | |||
|ultrapyth | |||
|} | |||
== Proposal: Naming mos modes == | == Proposal: Naming mos modes == | ||