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This is a collection of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] that [[tempering out|temper out]] the keema ({{monzo|legend=1| -5 -3 3 1 }}, [[ratio]]: | This is a collection of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] that [[tempering out|temper out]] the [[keema]] ({{monzo|legend=1| -5 -3 3 1 }}, [[ratio]]: 875/864), with [[S-expression]] S5/S6. Its fundamental equivalence entails that [[6/5]] is sharpened so that it stacks three times to reach [[7/4]], and the interval between 6/5 and [[5/4]] is compressed so that [[7/6]]–6/5–5/4–[[9/7]] are set equidistant from each other. As the [[Keemic family #Undecimal supermagic|canonical extension]] of rank-3 keemic to the [[11-limit]] tempers out the commas [[100/99]] and [[385/384]] (whereby ([[6/5]])<sup>2</sup> is identified with [[16/11]]), this provides a clean way to extend the various keemic temperaments to the 11-limit as well. | ||
Full [[7-limit]] keemic temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | Full [[7-limit]] keemic temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | ||
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: Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/21 | : Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/21 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~25/21 = 292.710{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 37, 41 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 37, 41 }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0.060269 | [[Badness]] (Smith): 0.060269 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 2 | 0 -14 -11 -9 6 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 2 | 0 -14 -11 -9 6 }} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~25/21 = 292.547{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4, 37, 41, 119 }} | ||
Badness: 0.043209 | Badness (Smith): 0.043209 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 2 2 | 0 -14 -11 -9 6 7 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 2 2 | 0 -14 -11 -9 6 7 }} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~13/11 = 292.457{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4, 37, 41, 78, 119f }} | ||
Badness: 0.032913 | Badness (Smith): 0.032913 | ||
=== Quato === | === Quato === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 12 | 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 12 | 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 }} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~25/21 = 292.851{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 127cd, 168cd }} | ||
Badness: 0.041170 | Badness (Smith): 0.041170 | ||
==== 13-limit ==== | ==== 13-limit ==== | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 12 12 | 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 -34 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 5 5 5 12 12 | 0 -14 -11 -9 -35 -34 }} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~13/11 = 292.928{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 86ce, 127cd }} | ||
Badness: 0.030081 | Badness (Smith): 0.030081 | ||
== Chromo == | == Chromo == | ||
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: Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/24 | : Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/24 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~25/24 = 53.816{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 45, 67c }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 45, 67c }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0.090769 | [[Badness]] (Smith): 0.090769 | ||
== Barbad == | == Barbad == | ||
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: Mapping generators: ~2, ~98/75 | : Mapping generators: ~2, ~98/75 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~98/75 = 468.331{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 18, 23d, 41 }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0.110448 | [[Badness]] (Smith): 0.110448 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 9 7 11 14 | 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 9 7 11 14 | 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 }} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~98/75 = 468.367{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 18e, 23de, 41, 228ccdd }} | ||
Badness: 0.050105 | Badness (Smith): 0.050105 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 9 7 11 14 8 | 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 -11 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 9 7 11 14 8 | 0 -19 -12 -21 -27 -11 }} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~13/10 = 468.270{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 18e, 23de, 41 }} | ||
Badness: 0.039183 | Badness (Smith): 0.039183 | ||
== Hyperkleismic == | == Hyperkleismic == | ||
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: Mapping generators: ~2, ~6/5 | : Mapping generators: ~2, ~6/5 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 323.780{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 37, 63 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 26, 37, 63 }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0.157830 | [[Badness]] (Smith): 0.157830 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 -2 2 4 | 0 17 16 3 -2}} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 -2 2 4 | 0 17 16 3 -2}} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 323.796{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 26, 37, 63 }} | ||
Badness: 0.065356 | Badness (Smith): 0.065356 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 -2 2 4 1 | 0 17 16 3 -2 10 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 -2 2 4 1 | 0 17 16 3 -2 10 }} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 323.790{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 26, 37, 63 }} | ||
Badness: 0.035724 | Badness (Smith): 0.035724 | ||
== Sevond == | == Sevond == | ||
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: Mapping generators: ~10/9, ~3 | : Mapping generators: ~10/9, ~3 | ||
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~10/9 = | [[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~10/9 = 171.429{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.613{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 56, 63, 119 }} | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 56, 63, 119 }} | ||
[[Badness]]: 0.206592 | [[Badness]] (Smith): 0.206592 | ||
=== 11-limit === | === 11-limit === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 7 0 -6 53 2 | 0 1 2 -3 2 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 7 0 -6 53 2 | 0 1 2 -3 2 }} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 171.429{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.518{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 56, 63, 119 }} | ||
Badness: 0.070437 | Badness (Smith): 0.070437 | ||
=== 13-limit === | === 13-limit === | ||
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Mapping: {{mapping| 7 0 -6 53 2 37 | 0 1 2 -3 2 -1 }} | Mapping: {{mapping| 7 0 -6 53 2 37 | 0 1 2 -3 2 -1 }} | ||
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = | Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 171.429{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.344{{c}} | ||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend= | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 56, 63, 119 }} | ||
Badness: 0.041238 | Badness (Smith): 0.041238 | ||
[[Category:Temperament collections]] | [[Category:Temperament collections]] | ||
Revision as of 08:37, 10 October 2025
- This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.
This is a collection of temperaments that temper out the keema (monzo: [-5 -3 3 1⟩, ratio: 875/864), with S-expression S5/S6. Its fundamental equivalence entails that 6/5 is sharpened so that it stacks three times to reach 7/4, and the interval between 6/5 and 5/4 is compressed so that 7/6–6/5–5/4–9/7 are set equidistant from each other. As the canonical extension of rank-3 keemic to the 11-limit tempers out the commas 100/99 and 385/384 (whereby (6/5)2 is identified with 16/11), this provides a clean way to extend the various keemic temperaments to the 11-limit as well.
Full 7-limit keemic temperaments discussed elsewhere are:
- Keemun (+49/48) → Kleismic family
- Doublewide (+50/49) → Jubilismic clan
- Porcupine (+64/63) → Porcupine family
- Flattone (+81/80) → Meantone family
- Magic (+225/224) → Magic family
- Sycamore (+686/675) → Sycamore family
- Superkleismic (+1029/1024) → Gamelismic clan
- Undeka (+3200/3087) → 11th-octave temperaments
Discussed below are quasitemp, chromo, barbad, hyperkleismic, and sevond.
Quasitemp
- For the 5-limit version, see Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Quasitemp.
Quasitemp tempers out 2401/2400 in addition to 875/864 and may be described as the 37 & 41 temperament. It has a strong restriction to the 2.5/3.7/3 subgroup, called gariberttet, which is defined by tempering out 3125/3087. In gariberttet, three generators reach 5/3 and five reach 7/3, so that the generator itself has the interpretation of 25/21. This implies that 3:5:7 and 5:6:7 chords are reached rather quickly. In quasitemp, tempering out 875/864 entails that 8/7 is found after 9 generators, from which the mappings of 3 and 5 follow.
The generator is equated to 13/11 for the 13-limit extension, tempering out 275/273.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 875/864, 2401/2400
Mapping: [⟨1 5 5 5], ⟨0 -14 -11 -9]]
- Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/21
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~25/21 = 292.710 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 4, 37, 41
Badness (Smith): 0.060269
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 1375/1372
Mapping: [⟨1 5 5 5 2], ⟨0 -14 -11 -9 6]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~25/21 = 292.547 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 4, 37, 41, 119
Badness (Smith): 0.043209
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 100/99, 196/195, 275/273, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨1 5 5 5 2 2], ⟨0 -14 -11 -9 6 7]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~13/11 = 292.457 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 4, 37, 41, 78, 119f
Badness (Smith): 0.032913
Quato
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 243/242, 441/440, 625/616
Mapping: [⟨1 5 5 5 12], ⟨0 -14 -11 -9 -35]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~25/21 = 292.851 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 41, 127cd, 168cd
Badness (Smith): 0.041170
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 105/104, 243/242, 275/273, 325/324
Mapping: [⟨1 5 5 5 12 12], ⟨0 -14 -11 -9 -35 -34]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~13/11 = 292.928 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 41, 86ce, 127cd
Badness (Smith): 0.030081
Chromo
- For the 5-limit version, see Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Chromo.
Chromo represents the 13edf chain as a rank-2 temperament, with 6/5 and 5/4 mapped to 6 and 7 steps, respectively. Since the difference of those two intervals is abbreviated considerably from just, keemic provides the most meaningful 7-limit extension (setting 7/6, 6/5, 5/4, 9/7 equidistant) so that the temperament then approximates the 4:5:6:7 tetrad with 0:7:13:18 generator steps.
Note that if one allows a more complex mapping for prime 7 and wants a larger prime limit, one may prefer escapade.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 875/864, 2430/2401
Mapping: [⟨1 1 2 2], ⟨0 13 7 18]]
- Mapping generators: ~2, ~25/24
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~25/24 = 53.816 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 22, 45, 67c
Badness (Smith): 0.090769
Barbad
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 875/864, 16875/16807
Mapping: [⟨1 9 7 11], ⟨0 -19 -12 -21]]
- Mapping generators: ~2, ~98/75
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~98/75 = 468.331 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 18, 23d, 41
Badness (Smith): 0.110448
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 245/242, 540/539, 625/616
Mapping: [⟨1 9 7 11 14], ⟨0 -19 -12 -21 -27]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~98/75 = 468.367 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 18e, 23de, 41, 228ccdd
Badness (Smith): 0.050105
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 144/143, 196/195, 245/242, 275/273
Mapping: [⟨1 9 7 11 14 8], ⟨0 -19 -12 -21 -27 -11]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~13/10 = 468.270 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 18e, 23de, 41
Badness (Smith): 0.039183
Hyperkleismic
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 875/864, 51200/50421
Mapping: [⟨1 -3 -2 2], ⟨0 17 16 3]]
- Mapping generators: ~2, ~6/5
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 323.780 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 26, 37, 63
Badness (Smith): 0.157830
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 2420/2401
Mapping: [⟨1 -3 -2 2 4], ⟨0 17 16 3 -2]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 323.796 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 26, 37, 63
Badness (Smith): 0.065356
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 100/99, 169/168, 275/273, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨1 -3 -2 2 4 1], ⟨0 17 16 3 -2 10]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 323.790 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 26, 37, 63
Badness (Smith): 0.035724
Sevond
- For the 5-limit version, see Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum #Sevond (5-limit).
10/9 is tempered to be exactly 1\7 of an octave. Therefore 3/2 is 1 generator sharp of a 7edo step and 5/4 is 2 generators sharp.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 875/864, 327680/321489
Mapping: [⟨7 0 -6 53], ⟨0 1 2 -3]]
- Mapping generators: ~10/9, ~3
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 171.429 ¢, ~3/2 = 705.613 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 56, 63, 119
Badness (Smith): 0.206592
11-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 6655/6561
Mapping: [⟨7 0 -6 53 2], ⟨0 1 2 -3 2]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 171.429 ¢, ~3/2 = 705.518 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 56, 63, 119
Badness (Smith): 0.070437
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 100/99, 169/168, 352/351, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨7 0 -6 53 2 37], ⟨0 1 2 -3 2 -1]]
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 171.429 ¢, ~3/2 = 705.344 ¢
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 56, 63, 119
Badness (Smith): 0.041238