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| Name = high tritone, greater septimal tritone, Euler's tritone
| | [[File:ji_glyph_10_7.png|alt=ji glyph 10 7.png|148x118px|ji glyph 10 7.png]]
| Color name = ry4, ruyo 4th
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| Sound = jid_10_7_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| | JI Glyph for 10/7
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{{Wikipedia|Septimal tritone}}


'''10/7'''
In [[7-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''10/7''' is a '''high [[tritone]]''' (or '''Euler's tritone''') measuring about 617.5¢. It has a similar sound to its inversion, [[7/5]], but may sound a little edgier, less relaxed. Nonetheless, it is considered a septimal consonance. It appears in chords where a major third ([[5/4]]) appears above the harmonic seventh ([[7/4]]), such as 4:6:7:10 – This particular chord is well-approximated in [[88cET]], which has a good approximation of 10/7, but no 7/5. It's well approximated by the Pythagorean augmented fourth [[729/512]], differing by [[5120/5103]].
|1 0 1 -1>


617.48781 cents
While in the context of the [[harmonic seventh chord]], it is rightly recognized as a type of augmented fourth, it can also be argued on the basis of the fact that 10/7 interval is larger than 600 cents that it acts more as a type of diminished fifth than an augmented fourth – an analysis that is required in cases where this interval occurs in a [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]] that demonstrates [[Rothenberg propriety]].
== Approximation ==
{{Interval edo approximation|10/7}}
== See also ==
* [[7/5]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[21/20]] – its [[fifth complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]


Type: Utonal
[[Category:Tritone]]
 
[[Category:Over-7 intervals]]
[[File:jid_10_7_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3]] [[:File:jid_10_7_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3|sound sample]]
 
In [[7-limit|7-limit]] [[Just_intonation|Just Intonation]], 10/7 is a high tritone measuring about 617.5¢. It has a similar sound to its inversion, [[7/5|7/5]], but may sound a little edgier, less relaxed. Nonetheless, it is considered a septimal consonance. It appears in chords where a major third ([[5/4|5/4]]) appears above the harmonic seventh ([[7/4|7/4]]), such as 4:6:7:10. (This particular chord is well-approximated in [[88cET|88cET]], which has a good approximation of 10/7 -- but no 7/5.)
 
See: [[Gallery_of_Just_Intervals|Gallery of Just Intervals]]      [[Category:7-limit]]
[[Category:interval]]
[[Category:just_interval]]
[[Category:ratio]]
[[Category:tritone]]

Latest revision as of 15:32, 12 December 2025

Interval information
Ratio 10/7
Factorization 2 × 5 × 7-1
Monzo [1 0 1 -1
Size in cents 617.4878¢
Names high tritone,
greater septimal tritone,
Euler's tritone
Color name ry4, ruyo 4th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A4}^{5}_{7} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 6.12928
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 6.64386
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 14

[sound info]
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In 7-limit just intonation, 10/7 is a high tritone (or Euler's tritone) measuring about 617.5¢. It has a similar sound to its inversion, 7/5, but may sound a little edgier, less relaxed. Nonetheless, it is considered a septimal consonance. It appears in chords where a major third (5/4) appears above the harmonic seventh (7/4), such as 4:6:7:10 – This particular chord is well-approximated in 88cET, which has a good approximation of 10/7, but no 7/5. It's well approximated by the Pythagorean augmented fourth 729/512, differing by 5120/5103.

While in the context of the harmonic seventh chord, it is rightly recognized as a type of augmented fourth, it can also be argued on the basis of the fact that 10/7 interval is larger than 600 cents that it acts more as a type of diminished fifth than an augmented fourth – an analysis that is required in cases where this interval occurs in a diatonic scale that demonstrates Rothenberg propriety.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 10/7 (617.49 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
2 1\2 600.00 -17.49 -2.91
4 2\4 600.00 -17.49 -5.83
6 3\6 600.00 -17.49 -8.74
29 15\29 620.69 +3.20 +7.74
31 16\31 619.35 +1.87 +4.82
33 17\33 618.18 +0.69 +1.91
35 18\35 617.14 -0.34 -1.01
37 19\37 616.22 -1.27 -3.92
39 20\39 615.38 -2.10 -6.84
41 21\41 614.63 -2.85 -9.75
62 32\62 619.35 +1.87 +9.65
64 33\64 618.75 +1.26 +6.73
66 34\66 618.18 +0.69 +3.82
68 35\68 617.65 +0.16 +0.90
70 36\70 617.14 -0.34 -2.01
72 37\72 616.67 -0.82 -4.93
74 38\74 616.22 -1.27 -7.84

See also