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== Theory ==
== Theory ==
67edo [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[81/80]], [[support]]ing [[meantone]], with a tuning which is slightly sharp of [[1/6-comma meantone|1/6-comma]] (the tuning favored by {{w|Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart}} and contemporaries, though they suggested the flatter & composite [[55edo]] as an approximation). It is indistinguishable from 4/25=0.16-comma meantone. In the 7-limit the [[patent val]] tempers out [[1029/1024]] and [[1728/1715]], so that it supports [[mothra]]. In the 11-limit it tempers out [[176/175]] and [[540/539]], supporting [[mosura]], an alternative 11-limit mothra. In the 13-limit it tempers out [[144/143]] and [[196/195]], supporting 13-limit mosura. It tempers out the [[orgonisma]], and on the 2.7.11 subgroup it supports the [[orgone]] temperament.
67edo [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[81/80]], [[support]]ing [[meantone]], with a tuning which is slightly sharp of [[1/6-comma meantone|1/6-comma]] (the tuning favored by {{w|Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart}} and contemporaries, though they suggested the flatter and composite [[55edo]] as an approximation). It is indistinguishable from {{nowrap|{{frac|4|25}} {{=}} 0.16-comma}} meantone. In the 7-limit the [[patent val]] tempers out [[1029/1024]] and [[1728/1715]], so that it supports [[mothra]]. In the 11-limit it tempers out [[176/175]] and [[540/539]], supporting [[mosura]], an alternative 11-limit mothra. In the 13-limit it tempers out [[144/143]] and [[196/195]], supporting 13-limit mosura. It tempers out the [[orgonisma]], and on the 2.7.11 subgroup it supports the [[orgone]] temperament.


It is a promising tuning which has, as many relatively large equal temperaments do, a variety of tonal resources: it is the first edo to have both meantone and an orgone temperament ([[26edo]] could be called meantone, but it is more of a [[flattone]]). It has relatively good approximations of the [[3/1|3rd]], [[7/1|7th]], [[11/1|11th]], [[13/1|13th]], [[15/1|15th]], [[17/1|17th]] [[harmonic]]s, although the [[5/1|5th]], [[9/1|9th]], and [[19/1|19th]] as well as certain higher ones are workable as well. 33 + 34 can be used to construct this temperament explaining some of its properties. It does well on the 2.3.7.11.13.17.23.31.37.41 [[subgroup]].
It is a promising tuning which has, as many relatively large equal temperaments do, a variety of tonal resources: it is the second edo after [[26edo]] to have both meantone and an orgone temperament. It has relatively good approximations of the [[3/1|3rd]], [[7/1|7th]], [[11/1|11th]], [[13/1|13th]], [[15/1|15th]], [[17/1|17th]] [[harmonic]]s, although the [[5/1|5th]], [[9/1|9th]], and [[19/1|19th]] as well as certain higher ones are workable as well. {{nowrap|33 + 34}} can be used to construct this temperament explaining some of its properties. It does well on the 2.3.7.11.13.17.23.31.37.41 [[subgroup]].


=== Prime harmonics ===
=== Prime harmonics ===
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67edo is the 19th [[prime edo]], following [[61edo]] and before [[71edo]].
67edo is the 19th [[prime edo]], following [[61edo]] and before [[71edo]].


== Intervals==
== Intervals ==
{{Interval table}}
{{Interval table}}
== Notation ==
=== Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation ===
[[Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation]] uses sharps and flats with arrows:
{{Sharpness-sharp5-szg}}
=== Kite's ups and downs notation ===
67edo can also be notated with [[Kite's ups and downs notation|Kite's ups and downs]], spoken as up, dup, dudsharp, downsharp, sharp, upsharp etc. and down, dud, dupflat etc. Note that dudsharp is equivalent to trup (triple-up) and dupflat is equivalent to trud (triple-down).
{{Sharpness-sharp5a}}
=== Sagittal notation ===
==== Evo flavor ====
<imagemap>
File:67-EDO_Evo_Sagittal.svg
desc none
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]]
rect 300 0 735 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation]
rect 20 80 160 106 [[896/891]]
rect 160 80 280 106 [[36/35]]
rect 280 80 440 106 [[1053/1024]]
default [[File:67-EDO_Evo_Sagittal.svg]]
</imagemap>
==== Revo flavor ====
<imagemap>
File:67-EDO_Revo_Sagittal.svg
desc none
rect 80 0 300 50 [[Sagittal_notation]]
rect 300 0 759 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation]
rect 20 80 160 106 [[896/891]]
rect 160 80 280 106 [[36/35]]
rect 280 80 440 106 [[1053/1024]]
default [[File:67-EDO_Revo_Sagittal.svg]]
</imagemap>
In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's [[Sagittal notation #Primary comma|primary comma]] (the comma it ''exactly'' represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it ''approximately'' represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this edo.


== Scales ==
== Scales ==
{{Idiosyncratic terms}}
=== Mos scales ===
=== Mos scales ===
* Meantone[5]: 11 11 17 11 17
* Meantone[5]: 11 11 17 11 17
* Meantone[7]: 11 11 6 11 11 11 6
* Meantone[7]: 11 11 6 11 11 11 6
* Barbados[5], Bustling Docks (original/default tuning): 14 14 11 14 14
* Barbados[5], Bustling Docks (original/default tuning): 14 14 11 14 14
* Barbados[9]: 11 3 11 3 11 3 11 3 11


=== Modmos scales ===
=== Modmos scales ===
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=== Others ===
=== Others ===
* Approximation of [[Pelog]] lima: 6 10 22 7 22
* Approximation of ''[[Pelog]] lima'': 6 10 22 7 22
* [[Maeve Gutierrez#Gutierrez-Lambeth quasi-subharmonic pentatonic|Gutierrez-Lambeth quasi-subharmonic pentatonic]] ''(octave-reduced: 9 6 23 16 13)''
* Arcade (approximated from [[32afdo]]): 22 4 13 15 13
* Arcade (approximated from [[32afdo]]): 22 4 13 15 13
* Cosmic (approximated from [[32afdo]]): 29 10 6 11 11
* Cosmic (approximated from [[32afdo]]): 29 10 6 11 11
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* Sourgummy (approximated from [[51afdo]]): 14 12 14 14 13
* Sourgummy (approximated from [[51afdo]]): 14 12 14 14 13
* Bubblegum/Cola (approximated from [[60afdo]]/[[99afdo]]): 14 13 13 13 14
* Bubblegum/Cola (approximated from [[60afdo]]/[[99afdo]]): 14 13 13 13 14
* Spearmint/Whitechocolate (approximated from [[62afdo]]/[[90afdo]]): 13 14 13 14 13
* Tropicalpunch/Whitechocolate (approximated from [[62afdo]]/[[90afdo]]): 13 14 13 14 13
* Lemonade (approximated from [[79afdo]]): 14 13 13 14 13
* Lemonade (approximated from [[79afdo]]): 14 13 13 14 13
* Candycorn (approximated from [[91afdo]]): 11 12 11 10 12 11
* Candycorn (approximated from [[91afdo]]): 11 12 11 10 12 11
* Trailmix (approximated from [[97afdo]]): 11 11 11 12 11 11
* Trailmix (approximated from [[97afdo]]): 11 11 11 12 11 11
* Liquorice (approximated from [[101afdo]]): 11 11 12 10 12 11
* Liquorice (approximated from [[101afdo]]): 11 11 12 10 12 11
* Apple Mint (approximated from [[80afdo]]): 9 11 9 9 10 9 10
* Fishcracker (approximated from [[80afdo]]): 9 11 9 9 10 9 10
 
== Instruments ==
* [[Lumatone mapping for 67edo]]
 
== Music ==
; [[Bryan Deister]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uwxey9_jINA ''microtonal improvisation in 67edo''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L6BXGZyvK8Y ''67edo prelude''] (2025)
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/za_Ov95HbjQ ''improv in 67edo''] (2025)
 
; [[Delta Quartz]]
* [https://youtu.be/WOguarC1lEI ''Making microtonality accessible - "Keep It Tight"''] (2026) (also has a small amount of 24edo)
 
; [[Dolores Catherino]]
* [https://youtu.be/AYHpxeM6o_g ''Moments of Unexpected Beauty''] (2026)
 
; [[Peter Kosmorsky]]
* [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/67-edo.mp3 Beginning of a piece in 67 tone] (2011) {{dead link}}


==Music==
; [[Budjarn Lambeth]]
* [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/67-edo.mp3 Beginning of a piece in 67 tone], [[Peter Kosmorsky]] {{dead link}}
* [https://youtu.be/xeOjzyXJl_M 67edo Negri8 MODMOS Improvisation] (2024)
* [https://youtu.be/xeOjzyXJl_M 67edo Negri8 MODMOS Improvisation], [[Budjarn Lambeth]]


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Latest revision as of 14:02, 12 May 2026

← 66edo 67edo 68edo →
Prime factorization 67 (prime)
Step size 17.9104 ¢ 
Fifth 39\67 (698.507 ¢)
Semitones (A1:m2) 5:6 (89.55 ¢ : 107.5 ¢)
Consistency limit 3
Distinct consistency limit 3

67 equal divisions of the octave (abbreviated 67edo or 67ed2), also called 67-tone equal temperament (67tet) or 67 equal temperament (67et) when viewed under a regular temperament perspective, is the tuning system that divides the octave into 67 equal parts of about 17.9 ¢ each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 21/67, or the 67th root of 2.

Theory

67edo tempers out 81/80, supporting meantone, with a tuning which is slightly sharp of 1/6-comma (the tuning favored by Mozart and contemporaries, though they suggested the flatter and composite 55edo as an approximation). It is indistinguishable from 4⁄25 = 0.16-comma meantone. In the 7-limit the patent val tempers out 1029/1024 and 1728/1715, so that it supports mothra. In the 11-limit it tempers out 176/175 and 540/539, supporting mosura, an alternative 11-limit mothra. In the 13-limit it tempers out 144/143 and 196/195, supporting 13-limit mosura. It tempers out the orgonisma, and on the 2.7.11 subgroup it supports the orgone temperament.

It is a promising tuning which has, as many relatively large equal temperaments do, a variety of tonal resources: it is the second edo after 26edo to have both meantone and an orgone temperament. It has relatively good approximations of the 3rd, 7th, 11th, 13th, 15th, 17th harmonics, although the 5th, 9th, and 19th as well as certain higher ones are workable as well. 33 + 34 can be used to construct this temperament explaining some of its properties. It does well on the 2.3.7.11.13.17.23.31.37.41 subgroup.

Prime harmonics

Approximation of prime harmonics in 67edo
Harmonic 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 31 37 41
Error Absolute (¢) +0.00 -3.45 +7.72 -1.66 +3.91 +1.26 +2.51 +6.96 -1.41 -8.68 +1.23 -0.60 +0.79
Relative (%) +0.0 -19.2 +43.1 -9.3 +21.8 +7.1 +14.0 +38.9 -7.9 -48.5 +6.9 -3.3 +4.4
Steps
(reduced) 		67
(0) 		106
(39) 		156
(22) 		188
(54) 		232
(31) 		248
(47) 		274
(6) 		285
(17) 		303
(35) 		325
(57) 		332
(64) 		349
(14) 		359
(24)

Subsets and supersets

67edo is the 19th prime edo, following 61edo and before 71edo.

Intervals

Steps Cents Approximate ratios Ups and downs notation
0 0 1/1 D
1 17.9 ^D, E♭♭
2 35.8 ^^D, ^E♭♭
3 53.7 31/30, 32/31, 33/32, 34/33, 35/34 vvD♯, ^^E♭♭
4 71.6 24/23 vD♯, vvE♭
5 89.6 20/19 D♯, vE♭
6 107.5 17/16, 33/31 ^D♯, E♭
7 125.4 14/13, 29/27 ^^D♯, ^E♭
8 143.3 vvD𝄪, ^^E♭
9 161.2 11/10, 23/21, 34/31 vD𝄪, vvE
10 179.1 31/28 D𝄪, vE
11 197 E
12 214.9 17/15, 26/23 ^E, F♭
13 232.8 8/7 ^^E, ^F♭
14 250.7 15/13, 22/19 vvE♯, ^^F♭
15 268.7 7/6 vE♯, vvF
16 286.6 13/11, 33/28 E♯, vF
17 304.5 31/26 F
18 322.4 ^F, G♭♭
19 340.3 28/23 ^^F, ^G♭♭
20 358.2 16/13 vvF♯, ^^G♭♭
21 376.1 36/29 vF♯, vvG♭
22 394 F♯, vG♭
23 411.9 19/15, 33/26 ^F♯, G♭
24 429.9 ^^F♯, ^G♭
25 447.8 22/17 vvF𝄪, ^^G♭
26 465.7 17/13 vF𝄪, vvG
27 483.6 F𝄪, vG
28 501.5 4/3 G
29 519.4 23/17, 31/23 ^G, A♭♭
30 537.3 15/11 ^^G, ^A♭♭
31 555.2 11/8, 29/21 vvG♯, ^^A♭♭
32 573.1 32/23 vG♯, vvA♭
33 591 31/22 G♯, vA♭
34 609 ^G♯, A♭
35 626.9 23/16, 33/23 ^^G♯, ^A♭
36 644.8 16/11 vvG𝄪, ^^A♭
37 662.7 22/15 vG𝄪, vvA
38 680.6 34/23 G𝄪, vA
39 698.5 3/2 A
40 716.4 ^A, B♭♭
41 734.3 26/17 ^^A, ^B♭♭
42 752.2 17/11 vvA♯, ^^B♭♭
43 770.1 vA♯, vvB♭
44 788.1 30/19 A♯, vB♭
45 806 35/22 ^A♯, B♭
46 823.9 29/18 ^^A♯, ^B♭
47 841.8 13/8 vvA𝄪, ^^B♭
48 859.7 23/14 vA𝄪, vvB
49 877.6 A𝄪, vB
50 895.5 B
51 913.4 22/13 ^B, C♭
52 931.3 12/7 ^^B, ^C♭
53 949.3 19/11, 26/15 vvB♯, ^^C♭
54 967.2 7/4 vB♯, vvC
55 985.1 23/13, 30/17 B♯, vC
56 1003 C
57 1020.9 ^C, D♭♭
58 1038.8 20/11, 31/17 ^^C, ^D♭♭
59 1056.7 35/19 vvC♯, ^^D♭♭
60 1074.6 13/7 vC♯, vvD♭
61 1092.5 32/17 C♯, vD♭
62 1110.4 19/10 ^C♯, D♭
63 1128.4 23/12 ^^C♯, ^D♭
64 1146.3 31/16, 33/17 vvC𝄪, ^^D♭
65 1164.2 vC𝄪, vvD
66 1182.1 C𝄪, vD
67 1200 2/1 D

Notation

Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation

Stein–Zimmermann–Gould notation uses sharps and flats with arrows:

Step offset 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Sharp symbol
Flat symbol

Kite's ups and downs notation

67edo can also be notated with Kite's ups and downs, spoken as up, dup, dudsharp, downsharp, sharp, upsharp etc. and down, dud, dupflat etc. Note that dudsharp is equivalent to trup (triple-up) and dupflat is equivalent to trud (triple-down).

Step offset 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Sharp symbol
      
         
    
Flat symbol       
              

Sagittal notation

Evo flavor

Sagittal notationPeriodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation896/89136/351053/1024

Revo flavor

Sagittal notationPeriodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation896/89136/351053/1024

In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's primary comma (the comma it exactly represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it approximately represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this edo.

Scales

This article or section contains multiple idiosyncratic terms. Such terms are used by only a few people and are not regularly used within the community.

Mos scales

  • Meantone[5]: 11 11 17 11 17
  • Meantone[7]: 11 11 6 11 11 11 6
  • Barbados[5], Bustling Docks (original/default tuning): 14 14 11 14 14
  • Barbados[9]: 11 3 11 3 11 3 11 3 11

Modmos scales

  • Cavernous (original/default tuning): 14 14 11 21 7
  • Formicarium (original/default tuning): 14 7 18 14 14
  • Negri Blues (original/default tuning): 14 14 3 8 14 14
  • Negri Blues Septatonic (original/default tuning): 14 14 3 8 11 3 14
  • Negri Blues Octatonic (original/default tuning): 7 14 7 11 7 11 3 7
  • Understory (original/default tuning): 14 7 18 7 21
  • Meantone Ionian Pentatonic: 22 6 11 22 6
  • Meantone Minor Melodic: 11 6 11 11 11 11 6
  • Meantone Minor Harmonic: 11 6 11 11 6 16 6
  • Meantone Minor Hexatonic: 11 6 11 11 17 11
  • Meantone Dorian Harmonic: 11 6 16 6 11 6 11
  • Meantone Mixolydian Pentatonic: 22 6 11 17 11
  • Meantone Phrygian Dominant: 6 16 6 11 6 11 11
  • Meantone Phrygian Dominant Hexatonic: 6 16 6 11 6 22
  • Meantone Phrygian Dominant Pentatonic: 22 6 11 6 22
  • Meantone Phrygian Pentatonic: 6 11 22 6 22
  • Meantone Double Harmonic: 6 16 6 11 6 16 6

Blues scales

  • Lost spirit (approximated from 31edo): 17 11 6 5 13 4 11
  • Blackened skies (approximated from 72edo): 18 10 5 6 5 18 5
  • Blues Aeolian Hexatonic: 17 11 6 5 6 22
  • Blues Aeolian Pentatonic I: 17 11 11 6 22
  • Blues Aeolian Pentatonic II: 17 22 6 11 11
  • Blues Bright Double Harmonic: 6 16 6 11 6 11 6 5
  • Blues Dark Double Harmonic: 11 6 11 6 5 6 16 6
  • Blues Dorian Hexatonic: 17 11 11 11 6 11
  • Blues Dorian Pentatonic: 17 22 11 6 11
  • Blues Dorian Septatonic: 17 11 6 5 11 6 11
  • Blues Harmonic Hexatonic: 11 6 11 11 22 6
  • Blues Harmonic Septatonic: 17 11 6 5 6 11 5 6
  • Blues Leading: 17 11 6 5 17 6 5
  • Blues Minor: 17 11 6 5 17 11
  • Blues Minor Maj7: 17 11 6 5 22 6
  • Blues Pentachordal: 11 6 11 5 6 28
  • Greyed Skies (approximated from 91edo): 17 11 5 6 6 17 5
  • Akebono I: 11 6 11 11 17
  • Augmented: 17 6 16 6 16 6
  • Dominant Pentatonic: 11 11 17 17 11
  • Hirajoshi: 11 6 12 6 22
  • Javanese Pentachordal: 6 11 17 4 29

Others

  • Approximation of Pelog lima: 6 10 22 7 22
  • Gutierrez-Lambeth quasi-subharmonic pentatonic (octave-reduced: 9 6 23 16 13)
  • Arcade (approximated from 32afdo): 22 4 13 15 13
  • Cosmic (approximated from 32afdo): 29 10 6 11 11
  • Mechanical (approximated from 16afdo): 17 5 17 15 13
  • Moonbeam (approximated from 16afdo): 11 6 12 22 6
  • Springwater (approximated from 8afdo): 11 11 17 15 13
  • Volcanic (approximated from 16afdo): 6 16 17 15 13
  • Deja Vu (approximated from 101afdo): 18 21 6 12 10
  • Freeway (approximated from 6afdo): 15 12 11 11 9 8
  • Mushroom (approximated from 30afdo): 15 12 11 4 24
  • Underpass (approximated from 10afdo): 18 21 12 6 10
  • Sourgummy (approximated from 51afdo): 14 12 14 14 13
  • Bubblegum/Cola (approximated from 60afdo/99afdo): 14 13 13 13 14
  • Tropicalpunch/Whitechocolate (approximated from 62afdo/90afdo): 13 14 13 14 13
  • Lemonade (approximated from 79afdo): 14 13 13 14 13
  • Candycorn (approximated from 91afdo): 11 12 11 10 12 11
  • Trailmix (approximated from 97afdo): 11 11 11 12 11 11
  • Liquorice (approximated from 101afdo): 11 11 12 10 12 11
  • Fishcracker (approximated from 80afdo): 9 11 9 9 10 9 10

Instruments

Music

Bryan Deister
Delta Quartz
Dolores Catherino
Peter Kosmorsky
Budjarn Lambeth
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