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A '''medium comma''' is a [[comma]] whose size is approximately between 30 and 100 cents. These commas are easily perceptible.
A '''medium comma''' is a [[comma]] whose size is approximately between 30 and 100 cents. These commas are easily perceptible. Many schools do not consider them true commas. In [[Sagittal notation]], intervals in the smaller part of this category are [[diesis (interval region)|dieses]], and intervals in the larger part of this category are [[semitone (interval region)|semitones]]<ref>[https://sagittal.org/sagittal.pdf ''Sagittal – A Microtonal Notation System''] by [[George Secor|George D. Secor]] and [[Dave Keenan|David C. Keenan]]</ref>.  


For commas over 100 cents, see [[Large comma]]; for commas under 30 cents, see [[Small comma]]; for such under 3.5 cents see [[Unnoticeable comma]].
For commas over 100 cents, see [[Large comma]]; for commas under 30 cents, see [[Small comma]]; for such under 3.5 cents see [[Unnoticeable comma]].


Except for the 3-limit commas, the [[color name]] refers to both the comma and the temperament created when it is tempered out.
Except for the 3-limit commas, the [[color name]] refers to both the comma and the temperament created when it is tempered out.
The commas might be numerous, but there is no need to memorise all the names. For pretty much all use cases, it is perfectly acceptable – preferred, even – to just refer to a comma by the monzo or ratio, whichever is simpler.


== List of commas, by prime limit ==
== List of commas, by prime limit ==
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[17-comma]], Pythagorean gothma, gothic comma
| [[Gothic comma]], Pythagorean gothma, 17-comma
| Wa-17
| Wa-17
| ssw3
| ssw3
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| {{monzo| 27 -17 }}
| {{monzo| 27 -17 }}
| 66.765
| 66.765
| [[Flora Canou]] (2023)
| [[Flora Canou]] (2023) for ''Pyth. gothma'' and ''gothic comma''
|-
|-
| 289-comma
| 289-comma
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[29-comma]], mystery comma
| [[Mystery comma]], 29-comma
| Wa-29
| Wa-29
| w-29
| w-29
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! Named by
! Named by
|-
|-
| Hogzilla
| Hogzilla comma
| Lala-yoyo
| Lala-yoyo
| LLyy-2
| LLyy-2
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[135/128|Pelogic comma]], major chroma
| [[135/128|Mavila comma]], major chroma
| Layobi
| Layobi
| Ly1
| Ly1
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| sasagu
| Quasisuper comma
| Sasagu
| Sasagu
| ssg3
| ssg3
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Bohpier, [[13edt]] comma
| Bohpier comma, [[13edt]] comma
| Satheyo
| Satheyo
| sy<sup>13</sup>-2
| s13y-2
| 1220703125 / 1162261467
| 1220703125 / 1162261467
| {{Monzo| 0 -19 13 }}
| {{Monzo| 0 -19 13 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Ripple
| [[6561/6250|Ripple comma]]
| Quingu
| Quingu
| g<sup>5</sup>2
| 5g2
| 6561 / 6250
| 6561 / 6250
| {{Monzo| -1 8 -5 }}
| {{Monzo| -1 8 -5 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Doublewide
| [[Dodecoid comma]]
| Sasa-sepgu
| ss7g4
| 536870912 / 512578125
| {{Monzo| 29 -8 -7 }}
| 80.164
| [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] (2023)
|-
| Doublewide comma
| Quadbiyo
| Quadbiyo
| y<sup>8</sup>-2
| 8y-2
| 390625 / 373248
| 390625 / 373248
| {{Monzo| -9 -6 8 }}
| {{Monzo| -9 -6 8 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Sevond
| Sevond comma
| Sasepyo
| Sasepyo
| sy<sup>7</sup>1
| s7y1
| 5000000 / 4782969
| 5000000 / 4782969
| {{Monzo| 6 -14 7 }}
| {{Monzo| 6 -14 7 }}
| 76.826
| 76.826
|  
| [[Petr Pařízek]] (2011)
|-
|-
| Nusecond
| Nusecond comma
| Legu
| Legu
| g<sup>11</sup>3
| 11g3
| 51018336 / 48828125
| 51018336 / 48828125
| {{Monzo| 5 13 -11 }}
| {{Monzo| 5 13 -11 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Sentinel
| Sentinel comma
| Trila-quadyo
| Trila-quadyo
| L<sup>3</sup>y<sup>4</sup>-3
| 3L4y-3
| 8968066875 / 8589934592
| 8968066875 / 8589934592
| {{Monzo| -33 15 4 }}
| {{Monzo| -33 15 4 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Stump
| [[Hypovishnuzma]]
| Saquadtrigu
| s12g4
| 254803968 / 244140625
| {{Monzo| 20 5 -12 }}
| 74.010
| [[ArrowHead294]] (2024)
|-
| Stump comma
| Latriyo
| Latriyo
| Ly<sup>3</sup>-2
| L3y-2
| 273375 / 262144
| 273375 / 262144
| {{Monzo| -18 7 3 }}
| {{Monzo| -18 7 3 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Superpyth, grave minor second
| [[20480/19683|Superpyth comma]], grave minor second
| Sayo
| Sayo
| sy2
| sy2
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| [[648/625|Diminished comma]], major diesis
| [[648/625|Diminished comma]], major diesis
| Quadgu
| Quadgu
| g<sup>4</sup>2
| 4g2
| [[648/625|648 / 625]]
| 648 / 625
| {{Monzo| 3 4 -4 }}
| {{Monzo| 3 4 -4 }}
| 62.565
| 62.565
|  
| [[Paul Erlich]], [[Carl Lumma]] (2002)
|-
|-
| Passion
| [[Passion comma]]
| Saquingu
| Saquingu
| sg<sup>5</sup>3
| s5g3
| 262144 / 253125
| 262144 / 253125
| {{Monzo| 18 -4 -5 }}
| {{Monzo| 18 -4 -5 }}
| 60.611
| 60.611
|  
| [[Paul Erlich]] (2004)
|-
|-
| Shibboleth
| [[Shibboleth comma]]
| Tritriyo
| Tritriyo
| y<sup>9</sup>-2
| 9y-2
| 1953125 / 1889568
| 1953125 / 1889568
| {{Monzo| -5 -10 9 }}
| {{Monzo| -5 -10 9 }}
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| [[Paul Erlich]] (2002)
| [[Paul Erlich]] (2002)
|-
|-
| Mynic
| Mynic comma
| Quinbigu
| Quinbigu
| g<sup>10</sup>3
| 10g3
| 10077696 / 9765625
| 10077696 / 9765625
| {{Monzo| 9 9 -10 }}
| {{Monzo| 9 9 -10 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Tritonic
| Tritonic comma
| Lala-quinyo
| Lala-quinyo
| LLy<sup>5</sup>-3
| LL5y-3
| 553584375 / 536870912
| 553584375 / 536870912
| {{Monzo| -29 11 5 }}
| {{Monzo| -29 11 5 }}
| 53.074
| 53.074
|  
|  
|-
| [[Magus comma]]
| Salegu
| s11g4
| 50331648 / 48828125
| {{Monzo| 24 1 -11 }}
| 52.504
| [[ArrowHead294]] (2024)
|-
|-
| [[Negri comma]], double augmentation diesis
| [[Negri comma]], double augmentation diesis
| Laquadyo
| Laquadyo
| Ly<sup>4</sup>-2
| L4y-2
| 16875 / 16384
| 16875 / 16384
| {{Monzo| -14 3 4 }}
| {{Monzo| -14 3 4 }}
| 51.120
| 51.120
| [[Paul Erlich]] (2002)
| [[Paul Erlich]] (2002)
|-
| [[Goldis comma]]
| Trisa-quadtrigu
| 3s12g5
| 549755813888 / 533935546875
| {{Monzo| 39 -7 -12 }}
| 50.550
| [[Userminusone]] (2021)
|-
|-
| [[250/243|Porcupine comma]], maximal diesis
| [[250/243|Porcupine comma]], maximal diesis
| Triyo
| Triyo
| y<sup>3</sup>1
| 3y1
| 250 / 243
| 250 / 243
| {{Monzo| 1 -5 3 }}
| {{Monzo| 1 -5 3 }}
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| [[Herman Miller]] (1999)
| [[Herman Miller]] (1999)
|-
|-
| Mowgli, [[15edt]] comma
| Mowgli comma, [[15edt]] comma
| Laquintrigu
| Laquintrigu
| Lg<sup>15</sup>3
| L15g3
| 31381059609 / 30517578125
| 31381059609 / <br>30517578125
| {{Monzo| 0 22 -15 }}
| {{Monzo| 0 22 -15 }}
| 48.304
| 48.304
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| {{Monzo| 16 -13 2 }}
| {{Monzo| 16 -13 2 }}
| 47.212
| 47.212
|  
| [[Mike Battaglia]] (2011)
|-
|-
| lalagu comma
| [[Python comma]]
| Lalagu
| Lalagu
| LLg-2
| LLg-2
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| {{Monzo| -23 16 -1 }}
| {{Monzo| -23 16 -1 }}
| 44.966
| 44.966
|  
| [[CompactStar]] (2023)
|-
|-
| [[128/125|Augmented comma]], diesis
| [[128/125|Augmented comma]], diesis
| Trigu
| Trigu
| g<sup>3</sup>2
| 3g2
| 128 / 125
| 128 / 125
| {{Monzo| 7 0 -3 }}
| {{Monzo| 7 0 -3 }}
| 41.059
| 41.059
|  
| [[Paul Erlich]], [[Carl Lumma]] (2002)
|-
|-
| Wizard
| Wizard comma
| Lala-quadtriyo
| Lala-quadtriyo
| LLy<sup>12</sup>-4
| LL12y-4
| 2197265625 / 2147483648
| 2197265625 / 2147483648
| {{Monzo| -31 2 12 }}
| {{Monzo| -31 2 12 }}
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| [[Sycamore comma]]
| [[Sycamore comma]]
| Laleyo
| Laleyo
| Ly<sup>11</sup>-3
| L11y-3
| 48828125 / 47775744
| 48828125 / 47775744
| {{Monzo| -16 -6 11 }}
| {{Monzo| -16 -6 11 }}
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| [[Paul Erlich]] (2002)
| [[Paul Erlich]] (2002)
|-
|-
| Absurdity
| Absurdity comma
| Lala-sepgu
| Lala-sepgu
| LLg<sup>7</sup>1
| LL7g1
| 10460353203 / 10240000000
| 10460353203 / <br>10240000000
| {{Monzo| -17 21 -7 }}
| {{Monzo| -17 21 -7 }}
| 36.859
| 36.859
|  
| [[Mike Battaglia]] (2011)
|-
|-
| Fifive
| Fifive comma
| Saquinbiyo
| Saquinbiyo
| sy<sup>10</sup>-2
| s10y-2
| 9765625 / 9565938
| 9765625 / 9565938
| {{Monzo| -1 -14 10 }}
| {{Monzo| -1 -14 10 }}
| 35.767
| 35.767
|  
| [[Petr Pařízek]] (2011)
|-
|-
| Unicorn comma
| [[Unicorn comma]]
| Laquadbigu
| Laquadbigu
| Lg<sup>8</sup>2
| L8g2
| 1594323 / 1562500
| 1594323 / 1562500
| {{Monzo| -2 13 -8 }}
| {{Monzo| -2 13 -8 }}
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| [[Paul Erlich]] (2002)
| [[Paul Erlich]] (2002)
|-
|-
| Valentine comma
| [[Valentine comma]]
| Satritrigu
| Satritrigu
| sg<sup>9</sup>3
| s9g3
| 1990656 / 1953125
| 1990656 / 1953125
| {{Monzo| 13 5 -9 }}
| {{Monzo| 13 5 -9 }}
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|-
|-
| [[Aenima comma]]
| [[Aenima comma]]
|  
| Trisa-quadbiyo
|  
| 3s8y2
| 209715200000000 / 205891132094649
| 209715200000000 / 205891132094649
| {{Monzo| 29 -30 8 }}
| {{Monzo| 29 -30 8 }}
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| [[Douglas Blumeyer]] (2023)
| [[Douglas Blumeyer]] (2023)
|-
|-
| [[Ampersand]], Ampersand's comma
| [[Ampersand comma]], Ampersand's comma
| Lala-tribiyo
| Lala-tribiyo
| LLy<sup>6</sup>-3
| LL6y-3
| 34171875 / 33554432
| 34171875 / 33554432
| {{Monzo| -25 7 6 }}
| {{Monzo| -25 7 6 }}
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| Mabila comma
| Mabila comma
| Sasa-quinbigu
| Sasa-quinbigu
| ssg<sup>10</sup>4
| ss10g4
| 268435456 / 263671875
| 268435456 / 263671875
| {{Monzo| 28 -3 -10 }}
| {{Monzo| 28 -3 -10 }}
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| Hexadecatone comma, 16-7-comma
| Hexadecatone comma, 16-7-comma
| Sasa-quadquadrubi
| Sasa-quadquadrubi
| ssr<sup>16</sup>-6
| ss16r-6
| 35184372088832 / 33232930569601
| 35184372088832 / 33232930569601
| {{Monzo| 45 0 0 -16 }}
| {{Monzo| 45 0 0 -16 }}
| 98.785
| 98.785
|  
|  
|-
| [[343/324|Gamelismic minor second]]
| Trizo
| 3z3
| 343 / 324
| {{Monzo| -2 -4 0 3 }}
| 98.658
| [[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] (2021)
|-
|-
| 29-7/5-comma
| 29-7/5-comma
| Twenezogu
| Twenezogu
|
| 29zg19
|
| <abbr title="3219905755813179726837607 / 3051757812500000000000000">(50 digits)</abbr>
| {{Monzo| -14 0 -29 29 }}
| {{Monzo| -14 0 -29 29 }}
| 92.854
| 92.854
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| 47-35-comma
| 47-35-comma
| Thela-fosezoyo
| Thela-fosezoyo
|
| 13L47zy6
|
|  
| {{Monzo| -241 0 47 47 }}
| {{Monzo| -241 0 47 47 }}
| 91.562
| 91.562
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| 39-7/5-comma
| 39-7/5-comma
| Thetriruyo
| Thetriruyo
|
| 39ry-24
|
|
| {{Monzo| 19 0 39 -39 }}
| {{Monzo| 19 0 39 -39 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| laruru negative 2nd
| 6561/6272
| Laruru
| Laruru
| Lrr-2
| Lrr-2
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| 36-7-comma
| 36-7-comma
| Quinla-quadtritrizo
| Quinla-quadtritrizo
|
| 5L36z14
|
|
| {{Monzo| -101 0 0 36 }}
| {{Monzo| -101 0 0 36 }}
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| [[392/375|Prograde comma]], ed7/4 microdiatonic comma
| [[392/375|Prograde comma]], ed7/4 microdiatonic comma
| Zozotrigu
| Zozotrigu
| zzg<sup>3</sup>3
| zz3g3
| 392 / 375
| 392 / 375
| {{Monzo| 3 -1 -3 2 }}
| {{Monzo| 3 -1 -3 2 }}
| 76.756
| 76.756
|  
| [[User:OffsuitKnave|OffsuitKnave]] (2022)
|-
|-
| [[256/245|Bapbo comma]]
| [[256/245|Bapbo comma]]
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| {{Monzo| 8 0 -1 -2 }}
| {{Monzo| 8 0 -1 -2 }}
| 76.034
| 76.034
|  
| [[User:Flirora|+merlan #flirora]] (2021)
|-
|-
| 18-21-comma
| 18-21-comma
| Quinla-tritribizo
| Quinla-tritribizo
|
| 5L18z6
|
|
| {{Monzo| -79 18 0 18 }}
| {{Monzo| -79 18 0 18 }}
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| 15-35-comma
| 15-35-comma
| Quadsa-quintrirugu
| Quadsa-quintrirugu
|
| 4s15rg-2
|
|
| {{Monzo| 77 0 -15 -15 }}
| {{Monzo| 77 0 -15 -15 }}
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| 47-7-comma
| 47-7-comma
| Sepsa-foseru
| Sepsa-foseru
|
| 7s47r-17
|
|
| {{Monzo| 132 0 0 -47 }}
| {{Monzo| 132 0 0 -47 }}
| 65.182
| 65.182
|  
|  
|-
| [[8505/8192|35 large diesis]]
| Lazoyo
| Lzy1
| 8505 / 8192
| {{Monzo| -13 5 1 1 }}
| 64.915
| [[Douglas Blumeyer]] (2024)
|-
|-
| 33-21-comma
| 33-21-comma
| Tritrisa-letriru
| Tritrisa-letriru
|
| 9s33r-9
|
|
| {{Monzo| 145 -33 0 -33 }}
| {{Monzo| 145 -33 0 -33 }}
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| 31-7/5-comma
| 31-7/5-comma
| Thiwezogu
| Thiwezogu
|
| 31zg20
|
|
| {{Monzo| -15 0 -31 31 }}
| {{Monzo| -15 0 -31 31 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Greenwoodma
| [[1323/1280|Septimal 2/7-tone]]
| Lazozogu
| Lzzg2
| 1323 / 1280
| {{Monzo| -8 3 -1 2 }}
| 57.203
| [[Eliora]] (2022)
|-
| [[405/392|Greenwoodma]]
| Ruruyo
| Ruruyo
| rry-2
| rry-2
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| {{Monzo| -3 4 1 -2 }}
| {{Monzo| -3 4 1 -2 }}
| 56.482
| 56.482
|  
| [[Francium]] (2023)
|-
|-
| 21-7-comma
| 21-7-comma
| Trisa-septriru
| Trisa-septriru
|
| 3s21r-8
| 576460752303423488 / 558545864083284007
| <abbr title="576460752303423488 / 558545864083284007">(36 digits)</abbr>
| {{Monzo| 59 0 0 -21 }}
| {{Monzo| 59 0 0 -21 }}
| 54.656
| 54.656
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| 39-35-comma
| 39-35-comma
| Lela-thetrizoyo
| Lela-thetrizoyo
|
| 11L39zy5
|
|
| {{Monzo| -200 0 39 39 }}
| {{Monzo| -200 0 39 39 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| Keega
| [[1029/1000|Keega]]
| Trizogu
| Trizogu
| z<sup>3</sup>g<sup>3</sup>3
| 3zg3
| 1029 / 1000
| 1029 / 1000
| {{Monzo| -3 1 -3 3 }}
| {{Monzo| -3 1 -3 3 }}
| 49.492
| 49.492
|  
| [[Gene Ward Smith]] (2005)
|-
|-
| [[36/35|Mint comma]], septimal 1/4-tone
| [[36/35|Mint comma]], septimal quartertone
| Rugu
| Rugu
| rg1
| rg1
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| 37-7/5-comma
| 37-7/5-comma
| Thiseruyo
| Thiseruyo
|
| 37ry-23
|
|
| {{Monzo| 18 0 37 -37 }}
| {{Monzo| 18 0 37 -37 }}
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| 5-21-comma
| 5-21-comma
| Saquinru
| Saquinru
| sr<sup>5</sup>-2
| s5r-2
| 4194304 / 4084101
| 4194304 / 4084101
| {{Monzo| 22 -5 0 -5 }}
| {{Monzo| 22 -5 0 -5 }}
| 46.095
| 46.095
|  
|  
|-
| [[Nonary comma]]
| Saquinbiru-agugu
| s10ragg-4
| 7247757312 / 7061881225
| {{Monzo| 28 3 -2 -10 }}
| 44.98
| [[User:Fitzgerald Lee|Fitzgerald Lee]] (2024)
|-
|-
| [[Cloudy comma]]
| [[Cloudy comma]]
| Laquinzo
| Laquinzo
| Lz<sup>5</sup>3
| L5z3
| 16807 / 16384
| 16807 / 16384
| {{Monzo| -14 0 0 5 }}
| {{Monzo| -14 0 0 5 }}
| 44.13
| 44.13
|  
| [[User:Flirora|+merlan #flirora]] (2021)
|-
|-
| [[525/512|Avicennma]], Avicenna's enharmonic diesis
| [[525/512|Avicennma]], Avicenna's enharmonic diesis
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| 8-35-comma
| [[Skwares comma]]
| Laquadru
| L4r-3
| 19683 / 19208
| {{monzo| -3 9 0 -4 }}
| 42.291
|
|-
| [[2240/2187|Septimal inframinor second]]
| Sazoyo
| szy2
| 2240 / 2187
| {{monzo| 6 -7 1 1 }}
| 41.456
| [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] (2023)
|-
| [[Septimal octatonic comma]]
| Lala-quadbizoyo
| Lala-quadbizoyo
| LLz<sup>8</sup>y<sup>8</sup>2
| LL8zy2
| 2251875390625 / 2199023255552
| 2251875390625 / <br>2199023255552
| {{monzo| -41 0 8 8 }}
| {{monzo| -41 0 8 8 }}
| 41.117
| 41.117
|  
| [[User:ArrowHead294|ArrowHead294]] (2024)
|-
|-
| [[Mabilisma]]
| [[Mabilisma]]
| Latrizo-aquinyo
| Latrizo-aquinyo
| Lz<sup>3</sup>y<sup>5</sup>1
| L3za5y1
| 1071875 / 1048576
| 1071875 / 1048576
| {{Monzo| -20 0 5 3 }}
| {{Monzo| -20 0 5 3 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[49/48|Slendro diesis]]
| [[49/48|Semaphoresma]], large septimal diesis, slendro diesis
| Zozo
| Zozo
| zz2
| zz2
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[Arcturus comma]]
| [[15625/15309|Arcturus comma]]
| Larutribiyo
| Larutribiyo
| Lry<sup>6</sup>-2
| Lr6y-2
| 15625 / 15309
| 15625 / 15309
| {{Monzo| 0 -7 6 -1 }}
| {{Monzo| 0 -7 6 -1 }}
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|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[50/49|Jubilisma]], tritonic diesis
| [[50/49|Jubilisma]], small septimal diesis, tritonic diesis
| Biruyo
| Biruyo
| rryy-2
| 2ry-2
| 50 / 49
| 50 / 49
| {{Monzo| 1 0 2 -2 }}
| {{Monzo| 1 0 2 -2 }}
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| Eric
| Eric
| Sepru
| Sepru
| r<sup>7</sup>-4
| 7r-4
| 839808 / 823543
| 839808 / 823543
| {{Monzo| 7 8 0 -7 }}
| {{Monzo| 7 8 0 -7 }}
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| German sixth comma
| German sixth comma
| Quadla-thiwezo
| Quadla-thiwezo
|
| 4L31z12
|
|
| {{Monzo| -87 0 0 31 }}
| {{Monzo| -87 0 0 31 }}
Line 720: Line 802:
| [[Llywelynsma]], llywelyn comma
| [[Llywelynsma]], llywelyn comma
| Sasepru-agu
| Sasepru-agu
| sr<sup>7</sup>g-3
| s7rag-3
| 4194304 / 4117715
| 4194304 / 4117715
| {{Monzo| 22 0 -1 -7 }}
| {{Monzo| 22 0 -1 -7 }}
Line 728: Line 810:
| 23-35-comma
| 23-35-comma
| Sepsa-twetherugu
| Sepsa-twetherugu
|
| 7s23rg-3
|
|
| {{Monzo| 118 0 -23 -23 }}
| {{Monzo| 118 0 -23 -23 }}
Line 743: Line 825:
! [[Cent]]s
! [[Cent]]s
! Named by
! Named by
|-
| [[128/121|Axirabian limma]]
| Lulubi
| 1uu2
| 128 / 121
| {{monzo| 7 0 0 0 -2 }}
| 97.364
| [[Dawson Berry]] (2021)
|-
|-
| 11-cycle major seventh prote, 35-11-comma
| 11-cycle major seventh prote, 35-11-comma
| Quinla-sepquinlo
| Quinla-sepquinlo
|  
| 5L35(1o)-8
|  
|  
| {{monzo| -121 0 0 0 35 }}
| {{monzo| -121 0 0 0 35 }}
Line 752: Line 842:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[22/21|undecimal minor semitone]]
| [[22/21|Undecimal minor semitone]]
| Loru
| Loru
| 1or1
| 1or1
Line 759: Line 849:
| 80.537
| 80.537
|  
|  
|-
| [[847/810|Wormwoodma]]
| Lolozogu
| 1oozg2
| 847 / 810
| {{monzo| -1 -4 -1 1 2 }}
| 77.328
| [[User:Jerdle|Jerdle]] (2023)
|-
|-
| 11-cycle chroma, 11-11-comma
| 11-cycle chroma, 11-11-comma
| Lala-lelo
| Lala-lelo
| LL1o<sup>11</sup>-3
| LL11(1o)-3
| 285311670611 / 274877906944
| 285311670611 / 274877906944
| {{monzo| -38 0 0 0 11 }}
| {{monzo| -38 0 0 0 11 }}
Line 768: Line 866:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[729/704|undecimal major diesis]]
| [[729/704|Undecimal major diesis]]
| Lalu
| Lalu
| L1u1
| L1u1
Line 776: Line 874:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[33/32|undecimal 1/4-tone, al-Farabi's 1/4-tone]]
| [[125/121|Jug comma]]
| Lulutrityo
| 1uu3y1
| 125 / 121
| {{monzo| 0 0 3 0 -2 }}
| 56.305
| [[CompactStar]] (2024)
|-
| [[33/32|Io comma]], undecimal quartertone, al-Farabi quartertone
| Ilo
| Ilo
| 1o1
| 1o1
Line 782: Line 888:
| {{monzo| -5 1 0 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| -5 1 0 0 1 }}
| 53.273
| 53.273
|  
| [[CompactStar]] (2024) for ''io comma''
|-
| [[567/550|25·11/7 medium diesis]]
| Luzogugu
| 1uzgg2
| 567 / 550
| {{monzo| -1 4 -2 1 -1 }}
| 52.701
| [[Douglas Blumeyer]] (2024)
|-
| [[Twinprimisma]]
| Salelo-asepru-aquingu
| s11(1o)7ra5g5
| 285311670611 / 277945762500
| {{Monzo|-2 -3 -5 -7 11}}
| 45.282
| [[User:原井玉葱郎|Misohito Nakai]] (2025)
|-
|-
| sterno
| [[352/343|Sterno]]
| Lotriru
| Lotriru
| 1or<sup>3</sup>-2
| 1o3r-2
| 352 / 343
| 352 / 343
| {{monzo| 5 0 0 -3 1 }}
| {{monzo| 5 0 0 -3 1 }}
Line 792: Line 914:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[45/44|undecimal 1/5-tone]]
| [[4096/3993|Alpharabian paralimma]]
| Satrilu
| s3(1u)2
| 4096 / 3993
| {{monzo| 12 -1 0 0 -3 }}
| 44.091
| [[Dawson Berry]] (2021)
|-
| [[Nokotan]], <br>Shikanokonokonokokoshitantanma
| Luzoquinyo
| 1uz5y1
| 21875 / 21384
| {{monzo| -3 -5 5 1 -1 }}
| 39.302
| [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (2024, short name) <br>[[User:R-4981|R-4981]] (2024, long name)
|-
| [[45/44|Undecimal 1/5-tone]], cake comma
| Luyo
| Luyo
| 1uy1
| 1uy1
Line 807: Line 945:
| 36.952
| 36.952
|  
|  
|-
| [[45927/45056|11/7 comma]]
| Laluzo
| L1uz1
| 45927 / 45056
| {{monzo| -12 8 0 1 -1 }}
| 33.148
| [[Douglas Blumeyer]] (2024)
|-
|-
| Igs boson, 13-11-comma
| Igs boson, 13-11-comma
| Sasa-thelu
| Sasa-thelu
| ss1u<sup>13</sup>4
| ss13(1u)4
| 35184372088832 / 34522712143931
| 35184372088832 / 34522712143931
| {{monzo| 45 0 0 0 -13 }}
| {{monzo| 45 0 0 0 -13 }}
Line 816: Line 962:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[55/54|telepathma]]
| [[55/54|Telepathma]]
| Loyo
| Loyo
| 1oy1
| 1oy1
Line 822: Line 968:
| {{monzo| -1 -3 1 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| -1 -3 1 0 1 }}
| 31.767
| 31.767
|  
| [[Gene Ward Smith]] (2014)
|-
|-
| Hunt 11-cycle comma
| Hunt 11-cycle comma
| Trila-quadtribilo
| Trila-quadtribilo
|  
| 3L24(1o)-6
|  
|  
| {{monzo| -83 0 0 0 24 }}
| {{monzo| -83 0 0 0 24 }}
Line 832: Line 978:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[56/55|undecimal diesis]]
| [[56/55|Undecimal diesis]], konbini comma
| Luzogu
| Luzogu
| 1uzg2
| 1uzg2
Line 850: Line 996:
! Named by
! Named by
|-
|-
| [[26/25|large tridecimal 1/3-tone]]
| [[55/52]]
| Thuloyo
| 3u1oy1
| 55 / 52
| {{monzo| -2 0 1 0 1 -1 }}
| 97.104
|
|-
| [[26/25|Large tridecimal 1/3-tone]]
| Thogugu
| Thogugu
| 3ogg2
| 3ogg2
| 26 / 25
| 26 / 25
| {{monzo| 1 0 -2 0 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| 1 0 -2 0 0 1 }}
| 67.9
| 67.900
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[27/26|small tridecimal 1/3-tone]]
| [[27/26|Small tridecimal 1/3-tone]]
| Thu
| Thu
| 3u1
| 3u1
Line 866: Line 1,020:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[1053/1024|tridecimal 1/4-tone]], Hunt minor submediant comma
| [[65/63|Radius of tolerance (FJS)]]
| Thoruyo
| 3ory1
| 65 / 63
| {{monzo| 0 -2 1 -1 0 1 }}
| 54.105
|
|-
| [[1053/1024|Superflat comma, tridecimal quartertone]], <br>Hunt minor submediant comma
| Latho
| Latho
| L3o1
| L3o1
Line 872: Line 1,034:
| {{monzo| -10 4 0 0 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| -10 4 0 0 0 1 }}
| 48.348
| 48.348
| [[Flora Canou]] (2020) for ''tridecimal quartertone'' <br>[[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] (2023) for ''superflat comma''
|-
| [[Tridecimal ennealimma]]
| Tritritho
| 9(3o)3
| 10604499373 / 10319560704
| {{monzo| -19 -9 0 0 0 9 }}
| 47.154
| [[User:ArrowHead294|ArrowHead294]] (2024)
|-
| [[416/405]]
| Thogu
| 3og2
| 416 / 405
| {{monzo| 5 -4 -1 0 0 1 }}
| 46.394
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[40/39|tridecimal minor diesis]]
| [[40/39|Tridecimal minor diesis]]
| Thuyo
| Thuyo
| 3uy1
| 3uy1
Line 882: Line 1,060:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| astbury
| [[351/343|Keladisma]]
| Thotriru
| 3o3r-2
| 351/343
| {{monzo| 0 3 0 -3 0 1 }}
| 39.915
| [[User:Lériendil|Lériendil]] (2024)
|-
| Astbury
| Latribitho
| Latribitho
| L3o<sup>6</sup>2
| L6(3o)2
| 4826809 / 4718592
| 4826809 / 4718592
| {{monzo| -19 -2 0 0 0 6 }}
| {{monzo| -19 -2 0 0 0 6 }}
| 39.256
| 39.256
| [[Peter Kosmorsky]] (2012)
| [[Peter Kosmorsky]] (2012)
|-
| [[1701/1664|13/7 small diesis]]
| Lathuzo
| L3uz1
| 1701 / 1664
| {{monzo| -7 5 0 1 0 -1 }}
| 38.073
| [[Douglas Blumeyer]] (2024)
|}
|}


Line 900: Line 1,094:
! Named by
! Named by
|-
|-
| [[18/17|small septendeciml semitone]], Arabic lute index finger
| [[18/17|Small septendecimal semitone]], Arabic lute index finger
| Su
| Su
| 17u1
| 17u1
Line 907: Line 1,101:
| 98.955
| 98.955
|  
|  
|-
| [[88/85|Septendecimal ~20edo-step]]
| Sulogu
| 17u1og1
| 88 / 85
| {{monzo| 3 0 -1 0 1 0 -1 }}
| 60.049
| [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (2024)
|-
|-
| 12 semitone comma
| 12 semitone comma
| Lala-quadtriso
| Lala-quadtriso
| LL17o<sup>12</sup>6
| LL12(17o)6
| 582622237229761 / 562949953421312
| 582622237229761 / 562949953421312
| {{monzo| -49 0 0 0 0 0 12 }}
| {{monzo| -49 0 0 0 0 0 12 }}
Line 916: Line 1,118:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[34/33|large septendecimal 1/4-tone]]
| [[34/33|Large septendecimal quartertone]]
| Solu
| Solu
| 17o1u2
| 17o1u2
Line 922: Line 1,124:
| {{monzo| 1 -1 0 0 -1 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| 1 -1 0 0 -1 0 1 }}
| 51.682
| 51.682
|  
| [[Flora Canou]] (2021)
|-
|-
| [[35/34|small septendecimal 1/4-tone]]
| [[35/34|Small septendecimal quartertone]]
| Suzoyo
| Suzoyo
| 17uzy1
| 17uzy1
Line 930: Line 1,132:
| {{monzo| -1 0 1 1 0 0 -1 }}
| {{monzo| -1 0 1 1 0 0 -1 }}
| 50.184
| 50.184
|  
| [[Flora Canou]] (2021)
|-
|-
| 11 semitone comma
| 11 semitone comma
| Sasa-lesu
| Sasa-lesu
| ss17u<sup>11</sup>-5
| ss11(17u)-5
| 35184372088832 / 34271896307633
| 35184372088832 / 34271896307633
| {{monzo| 45 0 0 0 0 0 -11 }}
| {{monzo| 45 0 0 0 0 0 -11 }}
Line 940: Line 1,142:
|  
|  
|-
|-
| [[51/50|large septendecimal 1/6-tone]], 17th-partial chroma
| [[51/50|Large septendecimal 1/6-tone]], 17th-partial chroma
| Sogugu
| Sogugu
| 17ogg2
| 17ogg2
Line 946: Line 1,148:
| {{monzo| -1 1 -2 0 0 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| -1 1 -2 0 0 0 1 }}
| 34.283
| 34.283
|  
| [[Flora Canou]] (2023)
|-
|-
| [[52/51|small septendecimal 1/6-tone]]
| [[52/51|Small septendecimal 1/6-tone]]
| Sutho
| Sutho
| 17u3o1
| 17u3o1
Line 954: Line 1,156:
| {{monzo| 2 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 }}
| {{monzo| 2 -1 0 0 0 1 -1 }}
| 33.617
| 33.617
|  
| [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] (2023)
|-
|-
| Hunt 17-cycle comma
| Hunt 17-cycle comma
|
| Quinsa-sebisu
|
| 5s34(17u)-14
|
|
| {{monzo| 139 0 0 0 0 0 -34 }}
| {{monzo| 139 0 0 0 0 0 -34 }}
Line 974: Line 1,176:
! Named by
! Named by
|-
|-
| [[19/18|large undevicesimal semitone]]
| [[19/18|Large undevicesimal semitone]]
| Ino
| Ino
| 19o2
| 19o2
Line 980: Line 1,182:
| {{monzo| -1 -2 0 0 0 0 0 1 }}
| {{monzo| -1 -2 0 0 0 0 0 1 }}
| 93.603
| 93.603
|  
| [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] (2019)
|-
|-
| [[20/19|small undevicesimal semitone]]
| [[20/19|Small undevicesimal semitone]]
| Nuyo
| Nuyo
| 19uy1
| 19uy1
Line 988: Line 1,190:
| {{monzo| 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1 }}
| {{monzo| 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1 }}
| 88.801
| 88.801
|  
| [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] (2019)
|-
|-
| nutho unison
| [[39/38|Undevicesimal diesis]], undevicesimal 2/9-tone
| Nutho
| Nutho
| 19u3o1
| 19u3o1
Line 996: Line 1,198:
| {{monzo| -1 1 0 0 0 1 0 -1 }}
| {{monzo| -1 1 0 0 0 1 0 -1 }}
| 44.97
| 44.97
|  
| [[User:Xenllium|Xenllium]] (2023)
|-
|-
| [[57/56|hendrix comma]]
| [[57/56|Hendrix comma]]
| Noru
| Noru
| 19or1
| 19or1
Line 1,016: Line 1,218:
! Named by
! Named by
|-
|-
| [[23/22|large vicesimotertial semitone]]
| [[23/22|Large vicesimotertial semitone]]
|  
| Twetholu
|  
| 23o1u2
| 23 / 22
| 23 / 22
| {{monzo| -1 0 0 0 -1 0 0 0 1 }}
| 2.11.23 {{monzo| -1 -1 1 }}
| 76.956
| 76.956
|  
| [[Xenwolf]] (2020)
|-
|-
| [[24/23|small vicesimotertial semitone]]
| [[24/23|Small vicesimotertial semitone]]
|  
| Twethu
|  
| 23u1
| 24 / 23
| 24 / 23
| {{monzo| 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 }}
| 2.3.23 {{monzo| 3 1 -1 }}
| 73.681
| 73.681
|  
| [[Xenwolf]] (2020)
|-
| [[299/289|Undecimisma]]
| Twethosusutho
| 23o17uu3o1
| 299 / 289
| 13.17.23 {{monzo| 1 -2 1 }}
| 58.891
| [[User:Inisil|Inisil]] (2024)
|-
| [[2187/2116|Lipsett comma]]
| Labitwethu
| L23uu-2
| 2187 / 2116
| 2.3.23 {{monzo| -2 7 -2 }}
| 57.136
| [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (2024)
|-
|-
| [[46/45|vicesimotertial fifth-tone]]
| [[46/45|Vicesimotertial 1/5-tone]]
|  
| Twethogu
|  
| 23og2
| 46 / 45
| 46 / 45
| {{monzo| 1 -2 -1 0 0 0 0 0 1 }}
| 2.3.5.23 {{monzo| 1 -2 -1 1 }}
| 38.051
| 38.051
|  
| [[User:Flirora|Flirora]] (2023)
|}
|}


Line 1,049: Line 1,267:
! Cents
! Cents
! Named by
! Named by
|-
| [[41/39]]
| Fowothu
| 41o3u1
| 41 / 39
| 3.13.41 {{monzo| -1 -1 1 }}
| 86.580
|
|-
| [[32/31|Octave-reduced 31st subharmonic]]
| Thiwu
| 31u2
| 32 / 31
| 2.31 {{monzo| 5 -1 }}
| 54.964
|
|-
| [[752/729|47-limit ~quartertone comma]]
| Safoso
| s47o2
| 752 / 729
| 2.3.47 {{monzo| 4 -6 1 }}
| 53.777
| [[Stephen Weigel]] (2023)
|-
| [[37/36|37-limit Wyschnegradsky ~quartertone]]
| Thiso
| 37o2
| 37 / 36
| 2.3.37 {{monzo| -2 -2 1 }}
| 47.434
| [[Stephen Weigel]] (2023)
|-
|-
| [[729/712|Oxidizer comma]]
| [[729/712|Oxidizer comma]]
|  
|  
|  
|  
| 729/712
| 729 / 712
| 2.3.89 {{monzo| -3 6 -1 }}
| 2.3.89 {{monzo| -3 6 -1 }}
| 40.8499
| 40.850
| [[User:BudjarnLambeth|Budjarn Lambeth]] (2023)
| [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (2023)
|-
| [[43/42]]
| Fothoru
| 43or1
| 43 / 42
| 2.3.7.43 {{monzo| -1 -1 -1 1 }}
| 40.737
|
|-
| [[Lutra comma]]
| Latrithiwo
| L3(31o)-3
| 268119 / 262144
| 2.3.31 {{monzo| -18 2 3 }}
| 39.017
| [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (2024)
|-
|-
| [[1000/979|Canine comma]]
| [[1000/979|Canine comma]]
|  
|  
|  
|  
| 1000/979
| 1000 / 979
| 2.5.11.89 {{monzo| 3 3 -1 -1 }}
| 2.5.11.89 {{monzo| 3 3 -1 -1 }}
| 36.7431
| 36.743
| [[User:BudjarnLambeth|Budjarn Lambeth]] (2023)
| [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (2023)
|-
| [[48/47|47th-partial chroma]]
| Fosu
| 47u1
| 48 / 47
| 2.3.47 {{monzo| 4 1 -1 }}
| 36.448
|
|-
| [[248/243|Tricesimoprimal comma]]
| Sathiwo
| s31o1
| 248 / 243
| 2.3.31 {{monzo| 3 -5 1 }}
| 35.261
|
|-
| [[261/256|Vicesimononal comma]]
| Tweno
| 29o1
| 261 / 256
| 2.3.29 {{monzo| -8 2 1 }}
| 33.487
| [[Stephen Weigel]] (2023)
|-
|-
| [[7921/7776|Attic comma]]
| [[7921/7776|Attic comma]]
|  
|  
|  
|  
| 7921/7776
| 7921 / 7776
| 2.3.89 {{monzo| -5 -5 2 }}
| 2.3.89 {{monzo| -5 -5 2 }}
| 31.9852
| 31.985
| [[User:BudjarnLambeth|Budjarn Lambeth]] (2023)
| [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (2023)
|-
| [[58/57|Vicesimononal 1/7-tone]]
| Twenonu
| 29o19u1
| 58 / 57
| 2.3.19.29 {{monzo| 1 -1 -1 1 }}
| 30.109
|
|}
|}
== List of irrational commas ==
For intervals expressible as edosteps, see [[Interval size measure]]. We skip them here for brevity.
{| class="wikitable"
! Name(s)
! colspan="2" | [[Color name]]
! Ratio
! Monzo
! Cents
! Named by
|-
| [[Engineer's comma]]
|
|
| π / 3
|
| 79.840
| [[Eliora]] (2022)
|}
== Notes ==


[[Category:Medium commas| ]] <!-- main article -->
[[Category:Medium commas| ]] <!-- main article -->
[[Category:Lists of commas]]
[[Category:Lists of commas]]
{{todo|complete table|add color name}}
<references />
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