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These temperaments were documented in honour of the members of Batch 89, as depicted in ''Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3'' (2023).
{{Editable user page|Feel free to add examples of music made with these temperaments, and feel free to add any new scales, approaches or other concepts you develop based on these ideas.}}
 
 
These temperaments were documented in honour of the members of Batch 89, as depicted in the 2023 film ''Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3''. The temperaments were first documented in 2023.


== Methodology ==
== Methodology ==
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* One harmonic was chosen by converting the first letter of the character's name to a number using the A1Z26 cypher, and using that number.
* One harmonic was chosen by converting the first letter of the character's name to a number using the A1Z26 cypher, and using that number.
* The other was chosen by converting each of the letters of the character's name to a number using the A1Z26 cypher, and then summing the numbers together.  
* The other was chosen by converting each of the letters of the character's name to a number using the A1Z26 cypher, and then summing the numbers together.  


== Floor ==
== Floor ==
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Normalised subgroup bases: '''2.3.11.89'''
Normalised subgroup bases: '''2.3.11.89'''


Related temperaments: '''[[Neutral]]'''
Related temperaments: [[Neutral]]
 


=== Temperament data (raw bases) ===
=== Temperament data (raw bases) ===
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Unison Vectors
Unison Vectors
* [-3, 1, -1, 1⟩ (89:88 - [[89/88|Sky comma]])
* [-3, 1, -1, 1⟩ (89:88 - [[89/88|Tailwind comma]])
* [0, -5, 0, 2⟩ (7921:7776 - [[7921/7776|Attic comma]])
* [0, -5, 0, 2⟩ (7921:7776 - [[7921/7776|Attic comma]])
* [3, -6, 1, 1⟩ (979:972 - [[979/972|Basement comma]])
* [3, -6, 1, 1⟩ (979:972 - [[979/972|Basement comma]])
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(* val for 89 is lowered)
(* val for 89 is lowered)


=== Temperament data (normalised bases) ===
=== Temperament data (normalised bases) ===


Equal Temperament Mappings
Equal Temperament Mappings
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Unison Vectors
Unison Vectors


* [-3, 0, -1, 1⟩ (89:88)
* [-3, 0, -1, 1⟩ (89:88) - ([[89/88|Tailwind comma]])
* [-1, 5, -2, 0⟩ (243:242)
* [-1, 5, -2, 0⟩ (243:242) - ([[243/242|Rastma]])
* [-2, -5, 1, 1⟩ (979:972)
* [-2, -5, 1, 1⟩ (979:972) - ([[979/972|Basement comma]])
* [-5, -5, 0, 2⟩ (7921:7776)
* [-5, -5, 0, 2⟩ (7921:7776) - ([[7921/7776|Attic comma]])


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 17, 24, 41* }}
(* val for 89 is lowered)


=== Example MOS scale: Floor[17] ===
=== Example MOS scale: Floor[17] ===
Rotations of this scale are still considered the same scale.


* 56.430
* 56.430
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Cosmic
Cosmic (approximated from [[32afdo]])
* 498.382
* 498.382
* 702.129
* 702.129
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* 996.764
* 996.764
* 1200.511
* 1200.511
Major (approximated from [[12edo]])
(rotate to get its modes e.g. minor)
* 203.747
* 407.494
* 498.381
* 702.129
* 905.876
* 1109.624
* 1200.511
Minor Hexatonic
* 203.747
* 294.634
* 498.382
* 702.129
* 996.764
* 1200.511


=== Music ===
=== Music ===


* ''[https://youtu.be/YHbBJOHdD_E Improvisation in Floor(17) in Scale Workshop]'' by [[Budjarn Lambeth]]
* ''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHbBJOHdD_E Improvisation in Floor(17) in Scale Workshop]'' by [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (Jun 2023)
 


== Teefs ==
== Teefs ==
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Normalised subgroup bases: '''2.5.11.89'''
Normalised subgroup bases: '''2.5.11.89'''


Related temperaments: '''[[Bug]]'''
Related temperaments: [[Bug]]
 


=== Temperament data (raw bases) ===
=== Temperament data (raw bases) ===
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Unison Vectors
Unison Vectors
* [-5, 1, -1, 1⟩ (89:88 - [[89/88|Sky comma]])
* [-5, 1, -1, 1⟩ (89:88 - [[89/88|Tailwind comma]])
* [0, 3, 0, -2⟩ (8000:7921 - [[8000/7921|Incisor comma]])
* [0, 3, 0, -2⟩ (8000:7921 - [[8000/7921|Incisor comma]])
* [-5, 4, -1, -1⟩ (1000:979 - [[1000/979|Canine comma]])
* [-5, 4, -1, -1⟩ (1000:979 - [[1000/979|Canine comma]])
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(* vals for 55 and 89 are raised)
(* vals for 55 and 89 are raised)


=== Temperament data (normalised bases) ===
=== Temperament data (normalised bases) ===


Equal Temperament Mappings
Equal Temperament Mappings
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Unison Vectors
Unison Vectors


* [-3, 0, -1, 1⟩ (89:88)
* [-3, 0, -1, 1⟩ (89:88) - ([[89/88|Tailwind comma]])
* [0, 3, -2, 0⟩ (125:121)
* [0, 3, -2, 0⟩ (125:121) - ([[125/121|Jug comma]])
* [3, 3, -1, -1⟩ (1000:979)
* [3, 3, -1, -1⟩ (1000:979) - ([[1000/979|Canine comma]])
* [6, 3, 0, -2⟩ (8000:7921)
* [6, 3, 0, -2⟩ (8000:7921) - ([[8000/7921|Incisor comma]])




{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 6, 13, 19, 32 }}
=== Example inflected MOS scale: UFO scale ===
An [[inflected MOS]] of the Teefs[19] [[MOS scale]]. Also a subset of the Teefs[51] MOS scale, and it can be approximated closely by [[51edo]]. Rotations of this scale are still considered the same scale.


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* 47.780
* 92.776
* 188.336
* 210.834
* 258.614
* 306.394
* 399.170
* 494.730
* 542.510
* 657.784
* 705.564
* 801.124
* 893.900
* 941.680
* 989.460
* 1011.958
* 1107.518
* 1152.514
* 1200.294


=== Example MOS scale: Teefs[32] ===


* 39.979
'''Subsets'''
* 73.925
* 113.904
* 147.850
* 187.829
* 227.808
* 261.754
* 301.733
* 335.679
* 375.658
* 415.637
* 449.583
* 489.562
* 523.508
* 563.487
* 597.433
* 637.412
* 677.391
* 711.337
* 751.316
* 785.262
* 825.241
* 865.220
* 899.166
* 939.145
* 973.091
* 1013.070
* 1053.049
* 1086.995
* 1126.974
* 1160.920
* 1200.899




'''Subsets'''
Cosmic (approximated from [[32afdo]])
* 494.730
* 705.564
* 801.124
* 1011.958
* 1200.294
 
 
Major (approximated from [[12edo]])
 
(rotate to get its modes e.g. minor)
* 188.336
* 399.170
* 494.730
* 705.564
* 893.900
* 1107.518
* 1200.294
 


Minor Hexatonic (approximated from [[12edo]])
* 188.336
* 306.394
* 494.730
* 705.564
* 1011.958
* 1200.294


Cosmic
* 489.562
* 711.337
* 785.262
* 1013.070
* 1200.899


=== Music ===
=== Music ===


== Lylla ==
== Lylla ==
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Normalised subgroup bases: '''2.3.31.89'''
Normalised subgroup bases: '''2.3.31.89'''


Related temperaments: '''[[Bluebirds]]'''
Related temperaments: [[Bluebirds]]
 


=== Temperament data (raw bases) ===
=== Temperament data (raw bases) ===
Equal Temperament Mappings
Equal Temperament Mappings
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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* [7, 0, 1, -2⟩ (7936:7921 - [[7936/7921|Lily comma]])
* [7, 0, 1, -2⟩ (7936:7921 - [[7936/7921|Lily comma]])
* [-9, 1, 2, -1⟩ (2883:2848 - [[2883/2848|Lilac comma]])
* [-9, 1, 2, -1⟩ (2883:2848 - [[2883/2848|Lilac comma]])
* [-16, 1, 1, 1⟩ (8277:8192 - [[8277/8192|Lime comma]])
* [-16, 1, 1, 1⟩ (8277:8192 - [[8277/8192|Lilly pilly comma]])
* [-2, 1, 3, -3⟩ (714984:704969 - [[714984/704969|Lightyear comma]])
* [-2, 1, 3, -3⟩ (714984:704969 - [[714984/704969|Lightyear comma]])


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(* val for 62 is lowered)
(* val for 62 is lowered)


=== Temperament data (normalised bases) ===
=== Temperament data (normalised bases) ===
Equal Temperament Mappings
Equal Temperament Mappings
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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Unison Vectors
Unison Vectors


* [-5, 1, 2, -1⟩ (2883:2848)
* [-5, 1, 2, -1⟩ (2883:2848) - ([[2883/2848|Lilac comma]])
* [8, 0, 1, -2⟩ (7936:7921)
* [8, 0, 1, -2⟩ (7936:7921) - ([[7936/7921|Lily comma]])
* [-13, 1, 1, 1⟩ (8277:8192)
* [-13, 1, 1, 1⟩ (8277:8192) - ([[8277/8192|Lilly pilly comma]])
* [-18, 2, 3, 0⟩ (268119:262144)
* [-18, 2, 3, 0⟩ (268119:262144) - ([[268119/262144|Lutra comma]])


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 13, 15, 17, 19, 36, 55, 129 }}
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=== Example MOS scale: Lylla[19] ===
=== Example MOS scale: Lylla[19] ===
Rotations of this scale are still considered the same scale. Note the 829 cent interval, a solid approximation of [[acoustic phi]].


* 65.281
* 65.281
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Cosmic
Cosmic (approximated from [[32afdo]])
* 502.506
* 502.506
* 698.347
* 698.347
* 828.908
* 828.908
* 1005.011
* 1200.853
Minor Hexatonic (approximated from [[12edo]])
* 195.842
* 306.664
* 502.506
* 698.347
* 1005.011
* 1005.011
* 1200.853
* 1200.853
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=== Music ===
=== Music ===


* ''[https://youtu.be/kcXcSIWOWaI Improvisation in Lylla(19) in Scale Workshop]'' by [[Budjarn Lambeth]]
* ''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcXcSIWOWaI Improvisation in Lylla(19) in Scale Workshop]'' by [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (Jun 2023)
 


== Rocket ==
== Rocket ==
Raw subgroup bases: '''2.18.72.89'''
Raw subgroup bases: '''2.18.72.89'''


Normalised subgroup bases: '''2.9+.9-.89''' (contains a dual harmonic 9)
Normalised subgroup bases: '''2.9+.9-.89''' (contains a dual harmonic 9)


Related temperaments: '''[[Lu]]'''
Related temperaments: [[Lu]], [[Deutone]]
 


=== Temperament data (raw bases) ===
=== Temperament data (raw bases) ===
Equal Temperament Mappings
Equal Temperament Mappings
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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(* val for 89 is raised)
(* val for 89 is raised)


=== Temperament data (normalised bases) ===
=== Temperament data (normalised bases) ===
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=== Example MOS scale: Rocket[19] ===
=== Example MOS scale: Rocket[19] ===
Rotations of this scale are still considered the same scale.


* 60.544
* 60.544
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Cosmic
Cosmic (approximated from [[32afdo]])
* 509.908
* 509.908
* 691.541
* 691.541
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* 1011.298
* 1011.298
* 1201.449
* 1201.449
Minor Hexatonic (approximated from [[12edo]])
* 190.151
* 319.757
* 509.908
* 691.541
* 1011.298
* 1201.449


=== Music ===
=== Music ===
[[Category:17-tone scales]]
* ''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NepcrTf9ng The Wound]'' - [[Budjarn Lambeth]] (Nov 2024)
[[Category:19-tone scales]]
 
[[Category:89-limit]]
== Bonus scales: the Batch 89 JI scales ==
[[Category:Listen]]
These [[just intonation|just intonation scales]] were documented in honour of the members of Batch 89, as depicted in the 2023 film ''Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3''. The scales were first documented in 2026.
[[Category:MOS scales]]
 
[[Category:Subgroup temperaments]]
=== Otonal Batch 89 scale ===
[[Category:Temperament collections]]
The scale degrees were selected by:
# ''converting each of the letters of Floor's name to a number using the A1Z26 cypher''
# ''then summing the numbers together to get one scale degree''
# ''then repeating this process but for Teefs, Lylla and Rocket to get three more scale degrees''
# ''then adding the octave, so that identical copies of the scale are infinitely reflected up and down the pitch spectrum, reflecting that these characters will be together forever''
# ''then using {{w|negative harmony}} to change the scale from utonal to otonal, to reflect how the characters found wonder even in a dark situation and used it to make the galaxy a brighter place''
 
This results in the following scale:
* 110/89
* 124/89
* 132/89
* 144/89
* 178/89
 
Which is a subset of [[89afdo]] (''see [[afdo]]'').
 
==== Edo approximations ====
 
Edos with nice-sounding approximations of this scale include:
* [[14edo]]: 4 3 1 2 4
* [[17edo]]: 5 3 2 2 5
* [[20edo]]: 6 4 1 3 6
* [[21edo]]: 6 4 2 3 6
* [[23edo]]: 7 4 2 3 7 ''(closest to JI until 65edo)''
* [[24edo]]: 7 4 3 3 7
* [[26edo]]: 8 4 1 3 8
* [[27edo]]: 8 5 2 4 8
* [[30edo]]: 9 5 3 4 9
* [[31edo]]: 9 6 3 4 9
* [[34edo]]: 10 6 3 5 10
* [[37edo]]: 11 7 3 5 11
* [[40edo]]: 12 7 4 5 12
* [[44edo]]: 13 8 4 6 13
* [[46edo]]: 14 8 4 6 14
* [[53edo]]: 16 9 5 7 16
* [[60edo]]: 18 9 5 8 18
* [[65edo]]: 20 11 6 8 20
 
(Tested by ear in [[Scale Workshop]] by [[Budjarn Lambeth]].)
 
=== Nonoctave Batch 89 scale ===
The scale degrees were selected by:
# ''converting the first letter Floor's name to a number using the A1Z26 cypher''
# ''then repeating this process but for Teefs, Lylla and Rocket to get three more numbers''
# ''at this stage we now have the numbers 6, 12, 18 and 20''
# ''now we list every JI ratio that is a combination of these two numbers, e.g. 12/6, 20/12, etc.''
# ''then we sort these in order from the smallest interval to the largest, using the largest as the scale [[period]]''
 
This results in the following scale:
* 20/18
* 18/12
* 20/12
* 12/6
* 18/6
* 20/6