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Most musicians are familiar with the [[circle of fifths]]. This is a way of organizing and showing relationships between pitches as a sequence of [[3/2|fifths]], and applies to any tuning system that can be generated by fifths and octaves. The generalized chain of fifths involves the 7 base note letters of the C major scale, along with sharps, double-sharps, flats, and double-flats (and beyond):
[[Meantone]] can be notated with a [[chain of fifths]] consisting of the 7 natural notes along with sharps and flats:


... {{dash|F𝄫, C𝄫, G𝄫, D𝄫, A𝄫, E𝄫, B𝄫, F♭, C♭, G♭, D♭, A♭, E♭, B♭, F, C, G, D, A, E, B, F♯, C♯, G♯, D♯, A♯, E♯, B♯, F𝄪, C𝄪, G𝄪, D𝄪, A𝄪, E𝄪, B𝄪|s=thin|d=long}} ...
... {{dash|F𝄫, C𝄫, G𝄫, D𝄫, A𝄫, E𝄫, B𝄫, F♭, C♭, G♭, D♭, A♭, E♭, B♭, F, C, G, D, A, E, B, F♯, C♯, G♯, D♯, A♯, E♯, B♯, F𝄪, C𝄪, G𝄪, D𝄪, A𝄪, E𝄪, B𝄪|hair|long}} ...


In a general meantone tuning, a sharp is split into 2 different parts, the diesis and the kleisma.
The chain is theoretically infinite, and C♯ and D♭ are not (in general) equivalent. When meantone is extended beyond 12 notes, it may require double-sharps, double-flats, and beyond. To avoid this, two new accidental pairs are introduced that raise/lower by the [[diesis]] and the [[kleisma]].
 
== Generalizing accidentals ==
Most musicians are familiar with single and double sharps and flats&mdash;these denote raising and lowering by one or two chromatic semitones, respectively. In a general meantone tuning, there are two additional intervals: the diesis, which is the difference between adjacent accidentals (e.g. C&#x266F;&ndash;D&#x266D; and D&#x266F;&ndash;E&#x266D;),<ref group="note" name="diesis_note">Having C&#x266F; and D&#x266D; be enharmonically equivalent is what most musicians would expect, but this is only true in equal temperament tunings where the number of notes is a multiple of 12. In most tuning systems, there are no enharmonic equivalents involving only sharps and flats.</ref> and the kleisma, which is the amount by which B&#x266F; exceeds C&#x266D; and E&#x266F; exceeds F&#x266D; (that is, C&#x266D;&#x200A;&ndash;&#x200A;B&#x266F; and F&#x266D;&#x200A;&ndash;&#x200A;E&#x266F;).


{| class="wikitable center-all"
{| class="wikitable center-all"
|-
|-
! colspan="2" | Symbol
! colspan="2" | Symbol
! rowspan="2" | Interval
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | Interval
! rowspan="2" | Number of<br>fifths
! rowspan="2" | Examples
! rowspan="2" | [[Fifthspan]]
|-
|-
! Raise
! Raise
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| &#x266F;
| &#x266F;
| &#x266D;
| &#x266D;
| Chromatic semitone
| Chromatic<br>semitone
| 7
| Augmented<br>unison (A1)
| C&ndash;C&#x266F;<br>E&#x266D;&ndash;E
| +7
|-
|-
| &uarr;
| &uarr;
| &darr;
| &darr;
| Diesis
| Diesis
| 12
| Diminished 2nd (d2)
| C&#x266F;&ndash;D&#x266D;<br>D&#x266F;&ndash;E
| &minus;12
|-
|-
| +
| +
| &minus;
| &minus;
| Kleisma
| Kleisma
| 19
| [[Negative interval|Negative]] double-<br>diminished 2nd (-dd2)
| C&#x266D;&#x200A;&ndash;&#x200A;B&#x266F;<br>F&#x266D;&#x200A;&ndash;&#x200A;E&#x266F;
| +19
|}
|}


A meantone chromatic semitone consists of one diesis and one kleisma. The diesis represents the [[just intonation|just]] intervals [[128/125]] and [[648/625]], while the meantone kleisma represents [[15625/15552]] or [[3125/3072]]. In [[septimal meantone]], where 7/4 is an augmented sixth, the diesis also represents [[36/35]], [[50/49]], and [[64/63]], while the kleisma also represents [[49/48]] and [[245/243]].
Because {{nowrap|19 &minus; 12 {{=}} 7}}, {{nowrap|d2 + &minus;dd2 {{=}} A1}}, and a diesis plus a kleisma equals a chromatic semitone.
 
An octave is made up of:
 
* 7 diatonic semitones and 5 chromatic semitones {{nowrap|{{=}} 7 m2 + 5 A1}} {{nowrap|{{=}} 12 steps}}
* 12 chromatic semitones and 7 dieses {{nowrap|{{=}} 12 A1 + 7 d2}} {{nowrap|{{=}} 19 steps}}
* 19 dieses and 12 kleismas {{nowrap|{{=}} 19 d2 + 12 &minus;dd2}} {{nowrap|{{=}} 31 steps}}
 
The diesis represents the [[just intonation|just]] intervals [[128/125]] and [[648/625]] among others, while the meantone kleisma represents [[15625/15552]] = [-6 -5 6⟩ and [[3125/3072]] = [-10 -1 5⟩ among others. In [[septimal meantone]], where 7/4 is an augmented sixth, the diesis also represents [[36/35]], [[50/49]], and [[64/63]], while the kleisma also represents [[49/48]] and [[245/243]].
 
The [[Enharmonic unison|enharmonic unisons]] &darr;d2 and &minus;&darr;A1 create various notational equivalences:


An octave is made of 19 dieses and 12 kleismas.
* B&#x266F;&uarr; and B&#x1D12A;&minus; are equal to C
* C+&uarr; is equal to C&#x266F; (because the two semisharps add up)
* D&#x1D12B;&darr; and D&#x266D;&#x266D;&#x266D;&minus; are equal to C


Unlike semisharps and semiflats, the diesis and kleisma can be generalized to other tunings:
If the fifth is wider than {{nowrap|7\12 {{=}} 700{{c}}}}, C&#x266F; is higher in pitch than D&#x266D; and the diesis becomes a descending pythagorean comma. In 12edo, the tempering out of the diesis means that  {{nowrap|C&#x266F; {{=}} D&#x266D;}}.
 
If the fifth is narrower than 11\19 = ~695¢, B&#x266F; is lower in pitch than C&#x266D; and the kleisma becomes a descending double-diminished 2nd. In 19edo, the tempering out of the kleisma means that {{nowrap|B&#x266F; {{=}} C&#x266D;}}.


{| class="wikitable center-all"
{| class="wikitable center-all"
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Various EDOs that support meantone
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" | Notes per octave
! rowspan="3" | [[EDO]]
! rowspan="2" | Approximate<br>[[81/80|syntonic<br>comma]]<br>fraction
! rowspan="3" | Approximate<br />[[81/80|syntonic<br />comma]]<br />fraction
! colspan="4" | Steps
! colspan="4" | Steps
! rowspan="2" | Explanation
! rowspan="3" | Relative sizes of the<br />chromatic semitone,<br />diesis, and kleisma
|-
|-
! style="width: 90px;" | Chromatic<br>semitone<br>(e.g.&nbsp;C&ndash;C&#x266F;)
! style="width: 90px;" | Chromatic<br>semitone
! style="width: 90px;" | Diatonic<br>semitone<br>(e.g.&nbsp;C&ndash;D&#x266D;)
! style="width: 90px;" | Diatonic<br>semitone
! Diesis
! Diesis
! Kleisma
! Kleisma
|-
|-
| [[7edo]]
! A1
|
! m2
| 0
! d2
| 1
! &minus;dd2
| 1
| &minus;1
| Chromatic semitone is tempered out<ref group="note" name="chroma_note">In 7-tone equal temperament, the tempering out of the chromatic semitone means that sharps and flats are redundant (in the sense that they cannot alter the pitch).</ref>,<br>diesis is positive, and kleisma is negative<ref group="note" name="kleisma_note">A negative kleisma means that B&#x266F; is lower in pitch than C&#x266D; and E&#x266F; is lower in pitch than F&#x266D;. Conversely, a positive kleisma means B&#x266F; sits higher than C&#x266D; and E&#x266F; sits higher than F&#x266D;. In 19-tone equal temperament, the tempering out of the kleisma means that {{nowrap|B&#x266F; {{=}} C&#x266D;}} and {{nowrap|E&#x266F; {{=}} F&#x266D;}}.</ref>
|-
|-
| [[12edo|12edo<br>(standard tuning)]]
| [[12edo]]
| {{frac|11}}&nbsp;comma
| {{frac|11}}&nbsp;comma
| 1
| 1
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| 0
| 0
| 1
| 1
| Chromatic semitone is equal to kleisma,<br>diesis is tempered out<ref group="note" name="diesis_note" />
| Chromatic semitone is equal to kleisma,<br />diesis is tempered out
|-
|-
| [[19edo]]
| [[19edo]]
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| 1
| 1
| 0
| 0
| Chromatic semitone is equal to diesis,<br>kleisma is tempered out<ref group="note" name="kleisma_note" />
| Chromatic semitone is equal to diesis,<br />kleisma is tempered out
|-
|-
| [[26edo]]
| [[26edo]]
|  
|
| 1
| 1
| 3
| 3
| 2
| 2
| &minus;1
| &minus;1
| rowspan="2" | Chromatic semitone is smaller than diesis,<br>kleisma is negative<ref group="note" name="kleisma_note" />
| Chromatic semitone is smaller than diesis,<br />kleisma is negative
|-
| [[33edo#Theory|33edo]]<br>(c&nbsp;mapping)
| {{frac|2}}&nbsp;comma
| 1
| 4
| 3
| &minus;2
|-
|-
| [[31edo]]
| [[31edo]]
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| 1
| 1
| Diesis is equal to kleisma
| Diesis is equal to kleisma
|-
| [[33edo#Theory|33c-edo]]
| {{frac|2}}&nbsp;comma
| 1
| 4
| 3
| &minus;2
| Chromatic semitone is smaller than diesis,<br />kleisma is negative
|-
|-
| [[43edo]]
| [[43edo]]
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|}
|}


There are of course notational equivalences:
In 33c-edo, 5/4 is mapped to {{nowrap|10\33 {{=}} 364{{c}}}} instead of {{nowrap|11\33 {{=}} 400{{c}}}}.


* B&#x266F;&uarr; and B&#x1D12A;&minus; are equal to C
[[9-odd-limit]] intervals and their notation relative to C:
* C+&uarr; is equal to C&#x266F; (because the two semisharps add up)
* D&#x1D12B;&darr; and D&#x266D;&#x266D;&#x266D;&minus; are equal to C
 
[[9–odd–limit]] intervals and their notation relative to C:


{| class="wikitable center-all"
{| class="wikitable center-all"
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| E&#x266D;
| E&#x266D;
| A&#x266D;
| A&#x266D;
| style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | A&#x266F;<br>B&#x266D;&darr;
| style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | A&#x266F; <br />B&#x266D;&darr;
| D&#x266F;<br>E&#x266D;&darr;
| D&#x266F;<br />E&#x266D;&darr;
| F&#x266F;<br>G&#x266D;&darr;
| F&#x266F;<br />G&#x266D;&darr;
| E&#x1D12B;<br>D&darr;
| E<br>D&darr;
| B&#x1D12B;<br>A&darr;
| B<br>A&darr;
| G&#x266D;<br>F&#x266F;&darr;
| G&#x266D;<br />F&#x266F;&darr;
| colspan="2" style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | D
| colspan="2" style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | D
| colspan="2" | B&#x266D;
| colspan="2" | B&#x266D;
| F&#x266D;<br>E&uarr;
| F&#x266D;<br />E&uarr;
| G&#x266F;<br>A&#x266D;&darr;
| G&#x266F; <br />A&#x266D;&darr;
|-
|-
! Just interval
! Just interval
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== True half-sharps and half-flats ==
== True half-sharps and half-flats ==
If sharps raise by an even number of steps, such as [[24-tone equal temperament]] (quarter tones) and [[31-tone equal temperament]] (extended [[quarter-comma meantone]]), they (along with flats) can be split in half. Thus, some notes can be notated using semisharps and semiflats, or with [[ups and downs notation|ups and downs]].
If sharps raise by an even number of edosteps, such as [[24-tone equal temperament]] (quarter tones) and [[31-tone equal temperament]] (approximately extended [[quarter-comma meantone]]), they (along with flats) can be split in half. Thus, some notes can be notated using semisharps and semiflats, or with [[ups and downs notation|ups and downs]].


For example, in 31 equal, the chromatic scale becomes:
For example, in 31 equal, the chromatic scale becomes:


{{dash|C, D&#x1D12B;, C&#x266F;, D&#x266D;, C&#x1D12A;, D, E&#x1D12B;, D&#x266F;, E&#x266D;, D&#x1D12A;, E, F&#x266D;, E&#x266F;, F, G&#x1D12B;, F&#x266F;, G&#x266D;, F&#x1D12A;, G, A&#x1D12B;, G&#x266F;, A&#x266D;, G&#x1D12A;, A, B&#x1D12B;, A&#x266F;, B&#x266D;, A&#x1D12A;, B, C&#x266D;, B&#x266F;, C|s=thin|d=long}}
{{dash|C, D&#x1D12B;, C&#x266F;, D&#x266D;, C&#x1D12A;, D, E&#x1D12B;, D&#x266F;, E&#x266D;, D&#x1D12A;, E, F&#x266D;, E&#x266F;, F, G&#x1D12B;, F&#x266F;, G&#x266D;, F&#x1D12A;, G, A&#x1D12B;, G&#x266F;, A&#x266D;, G&#x1D12A;, A, B&#x1D12B;, A&#x266F;, B&#x266D;, A&#x1D12A;, B, C&#x266D;, B&#x266F;, C|hair|long}}


Note that the base note letters alternate.
Note that the base note letters alternate.
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Using semisharps and semiflats, this can be re-written as:
Using semisharps and semiflats, this can be re-written as:


{{dash|C, C{{demisharp2}}, C&#x266F;, D&#x266D;, D{{demiflat2}}, D, D{{demisharp2}}, D&#x266F;, E&#x266D;, E{{demiflat2}}, E, E{{demisharp2}}, F{{demiflat2}}, F, F{{demisharp2}}, F&#x266F;, G&#x266D;, G{{demiflat2}}, G, G{{demisharp2}}, G&#x266F;, A&#x266D;, A{{demiflat2}}, A, A{{demisharp2}}, A&#x266F;, B&#x266D;, B{{demiflat2}}, B, B{{demisharp2}}, C{{demiflat2}}, C|s=thin|d=long}}
{{dash|C, C{{demisharp2}}, C&#x266F;, D&#x266D;, D{{demiflat2}}, D, D{{demisharp2}}, D&#x266F;, E&#x266D;, E{{demiflat2}}, E, E{{demisharp2}}, F{{demiflat2}}, F, F{{demisharp2}}, F&#x266F;, G&#x266D;, G{{demiflat2}}, G, G{{demisharp2}}, G&#x266F;, A&#x266D;, A{{demiflat2}}, A, A{{demisharp2}}, A&#x266F;, B&#x266D;, B{{demiflat2}}, B, B{{demisharp2}}, C{{demiflat2}}, C|hair|long}}
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If true half-sharps and true half-flats are desired, which exactly bisect the chromatic semitone, the meantone fifth is split in half. This creates a new tuning system consisting of a two-dimensional lattice generated by a chain of neutral thirds, with meantone existing as every other note in the generator chain. This adds true half-sharps and half-flats, and creates a "neutral" version of each interval class.
If true half-sharps and true half-flats are desired, which exactly bisect the chromatic semitone, the meantone fifth is split in half. This creates a new tuning system consisting of a two-dimensional lattice generated by a chain of neutral thirds, with meantone existing as every other note in the generator chain. This adds true half-sharps and half-flats, and creates a "neutral" version of each interval class.
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== Notes ==
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Latest revision as of 22:30, 4 May 2025

Meantone can be notated with a chain of fifths consisting of the 7 natural notes along with sharps and flats:

... F𝄫 — C𝄫 — G𝄫 — D𝄫 — A𝄫 — E𝄫 — B𝄫 — F♭ — C♭ — G♭ — D♭ — A♭ — E♭ — B♭ — F — C — G — D — A — E — B — F♯ — C♯ — G♯ — D♯ — A♯ — E♯ — B♯ — F𝄪 — C𝄪 — G𝄪 — D𝄪 — A𝄪 — E𝄪 — B𝄪 ...

The chain is theoretically infinite, and C♯ and D♭ are not (in general) equivalent. When meantone is extended beyond 12 notes, it may require double-sharps, double-flats, and beyond. To avoid this, two new accidental pairs are introduced that raise/lower by the diesis and the kleisma.

Symbol Interval Examples Fifthspan
Raise Lower
Chromatic
semitone
Augmented
unison (A1)
C–C♯
E♭–E
+7
Diesis Diminished 2nd (d2) C♯–D♭
D♯–E
−12
+ Kleisma Negative double-
diminished 2nd (-dd2)
C♭ – B♯
F♭ – E♯
+19

Because 19 − 12 = 7, d2 + −dd2 = A1, and a diesis plus a kleisma equals a chromatic semitone.

An octave is made up of:

  • 7 diatonic semitones and 5 chromatic semitones = 7 m2 + 5 A1 = 12 steps
  • 12 chromatic semitones and 7 dieses = 12 A1 + 7 d2 = 19 steps
  • 19 dieses and 12 kleismas = 19 d2 + 12 −dd2 = 31 steps

The diesis represents the just intervals 128/125 and 648/625 among others, while the meantone kleisma represents 15625/15552 = [-6 -5 6⟩ and 3125/3072 = [-10 -1 5⟩ among others. In septimal meantone, where 7/4 is an augmented sixth, the diesis also represents 36/35, 50/49, and 64/63, while the kleisma also represents 49/48 and 245/243.

The enharmonic unisons ↓d2 and −↓A1 create various notational equivalences:

  • B♯↑ and B𝄪− are equal to C
  • C+↑ is equal to C♯ (because the two semisharps add up)
  • D𝄫↓ and D♭♭♭− are equal to C

If the fifth is wider than 7\12 = 700 ¢, C♯ is higher in pitch than D♭ and the diesis becomes a descending pythagorean comma. In 12edo, the tempering out of the diesis means that C♯ = D♭.

If the fifth is narrower than 11\19 = ~695¢, B♯ is lower in pitch than C♭ and the kleisma becomes a descending double-diminished 2nd. In 19edo, the tempering out of the kleisma means that B♯ = C♭.

Various EDOs that support meantone
EDO Approximate
syntonic
comma

fraction
Steps Relative sizes of the
chromatic semitone,
diesis, and kleisma
Chromatic
semitone
Diatonic
semitone
Diesis Kleisma
A1 m2 d2 −dd2
12edo 111 comma 1 1 0 1 Chromatic semitone is equal to kleisma,
diesis is tempered out
19edo 13 comma 1 2 1 0 Chromatic semitone is equal to diesis,
kleisma is tempered out
26edo 1 3 2 −1 Chromatic semitone is smaller than diesis,
kleisma is negative
31edo 14 comma 2 3 1 1 Diesis is equal to kleisma
33c-edo 12 comma 1 4 3 −2 Chromatic semitone is smaller than diesis,
kleisma is negative
43edo 15 comma 3 4 1 2 Diesis is smaller than kleisma
55edo 16 comma 4 5 1 3
50edo 27 comma 3 5 2 1 Diesis is larger than kleisma

In 33c-edo, 5/4 is mapped to 10\33 = 364 ¢ instead of 11\33 = 400 ¢.

9-odd-limit intervals and their notation relative to C:

Note C G F E A E♭ A♭ A♯
B♭↓
D♯
E♭↓
F♯
G♭↓
E
D↓
B
A↓
G♭
F♯↓
D B♭ F♭
E↑
G♯
A♭↓
Just interval 1/1 3/2 4/3 5/4 5/3 6/5 8/5 7/4 7/6 7/5 8/7 12/7 10/7 9/8 10/9 9/5 16/9 9/7 14/9

Two dieses or two kleismas cannot be stacked to produce a chromatic semitone except in 31edo, and notation for 11-limit and 13-limit intervals (intervals involving the 11th harmonic and 13th harmonic) can vary.

True half-sharps and half-flats

If sharps raise by an even number of edosteps, such as 24-tone equal temperament (quarter tones) and 31-tone equal temperament (approximately extended quarter-comma meantone), they (along with flats) can be split in half. Thus, some notes can be notated using semisharps and semiflats, or with ups and downs.

For example, in 31 equal, the chromatic scale becomes:

C — D𝄫 — C♯ — D♭ — C𝄪 — D — E𝄫 — D♯ — E♭ — D𝄪 — E — F♭ — E♯ — F — G𝄫 — F♯ — G♭ — F𝄪 — G — A𝄫 — G♯ — A♭ — G𝄪 — A — B𝄫 — A♯ — B♭ — A𝄪 — B — C♭ — B♯ — C

Note that the base note letters alternate.

Using semisharps and semiflats, this can be re-written as:

C — C⁠ ⁠ — C♯ — D♭ — D⁠ ⁠ — D — D⁠ ⁠ — D♯ — E♭ — E⁠ ⁠ — E — E⁠ ⁠ — F⁠ ⁠ — F — F⁠ ⁠ — F♯ — G♭ — G⁠ ⁠ — G — G⁠ ⁠ — G♯ — A♭ — A⁠ ⁠ — A — A⁠ ⁠ — A♯ — B♭ — B⁠ ⁠ — B — B⁠ ⁠ — C⁠ ⁠ — C