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[[Meantone]] can be notated with a [[chain of fifths]] consisting of the 7 natural notes along with sharps and flats: | |||
... {{dash| | ... {{dash|F𝄫, C𝄫, G𝄫, D𝄫, A𝄫, E𝄫, B𝄫, F♭, C♭, G♭, D♭, A♭, E♭, B♭, F, C, G, D, A, E, B, F♯, C♯, G♯, D♯, A♯, E♯, B♯, F𝄪, C𝄪, G𝄪, D𝄪, A𝄪, E𝄪, B𝄪|hair|long}} ... | ||
The chain is theoretically infinite, and C♯ and D♭ are not (in general) equivalent. When meantone is extended beyond 12 notes, it may require double-sharps, double-flats, and beyond. To avoid this, two new accidental pairs are introduced that raise/lower by the [[diesis]] and the [[kleisma]]. | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|- | |||
! colspan="2" | Symbol | ! colspan="2" | Symbol | ||
! rowspan="2" | Interval | ! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | Interval | ||
! rowspan="2" | ! rowspan="2" | Examples | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Fifthspan]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Raise | ! Raise | ||
! Lower | ! Lower | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | ♯ | ||
| | | ♭ | ||
| Chromatic semitone | | Chromatic<br>semitone | ||
| 7 | | Augmented<br>unison (A1) | ||
| C–C♯<br>E♭–E | |||
| +7 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | ↑ | ||
| | | ↓ | ||
| Diesis | | Diesis | ||
| 12 | | Diminished 2nd (d2) | ||
| C♯–D♭<br>D♯–E | |||
| −12 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| + | | + | ||
| − | | − | ||
| Kleisma | | Kleisma | ||
| 19 | | [[Negative interval|Negative]] double-<br>diminished 2nd (-dd2) | ||
| C♭ – B♯<br>F♭ – E♯ | |||
| +19 | |||
|} | |} | ||
Because {{nowrap|19 − 12 {{=}} 7}}, {{nowrap|d2 + −dd2 {{=}} A1}}, and a diesis plus a kleisma equals a chromatic semitone. | |||
An octave is made up of: | |||
* 7 diatonic semitones and 5 chromatic semitones {{nowrap|{{=}} 7 m2 + 5 A1}} {{nowrap|{{=}} 12 steps}} | |||
* 12 chromatic semitones and 7 dieses {{nowrap|{{=}} 12 A1 + 7 d2}} {{nowrap|{{=}} 19 steps}} | |||
* 19 dieses and 12 kleismas {{nowrap|{{=}} 19 d2 + 12 −dd2}} {{nowrap|{{=}} 31 steps}} | |||
The diesis represents the [[just intonation|just]] intervals [[128/125]] and [[648/625]] among others, while the meantone kleisma represents [[15625/15552]] = [-6 -5 6⟩ and [[3125/3072]] = [-10 -1 5⟩ among others. In [[septimal meantone]], where 7/4 is an augmented sixth, the diesis also represents [[36/35]], [[50/49]], and [[64/63]], while the kleisma also represents [[49/48]] and [[245/243]]. | |||
The [[Enharmonic unison|enharmonic unisons]] ↓d2 and −↓A1 create various notational equivalences: | |||
* B♯↑ and B𝄪− are equal to C | |||
* C+↑ is equal to C♯ (because the two semisharps add up) | |||
* D𝄫↓ and D♭♭♭− are equal to C | |||
If the fifth is wider than {{nowrap|7\12 {{=}} 700{{c}}}}, C♯ is higher in pitch than D♭ and the diesis becomes a descending pythagorean comma. In 12edo, the tempering out of the diesis means that {{nowrap|C♯ {{=}} D♭}}. | |||
If the fifth is narrower than 11\19 = ~695¢, B♯ is lower in pitch than C♭ and the kleisma becomes a descending double-diminished 2nd. In 19edo, the tempering out of the kleisma means that {{nowrap|B♯ {{=}} C♭}}. | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Various EDOs that support meantone | |||
! rowspan=" | |- | ||
! rowspan="3" | [[EDO]] | |||
! rowspan="3" | Approximate<br />[[81/80|syntonic<br />comma]]<br />fraction | |||
! colspan="4" | Steps | ! colspan="4" | Steps | ||
! rowspan=" | ! rowspan="3" | Relative sizes of the<br />chromatic semitone,<br />diesis, and kleisma | ||
|- | |- | ||
! style="width: 90px;" | Chromatic semitone | ! style="width: 90px;" | Chromatic<br>semitone | ||
! style="width: 90px;" | Diatonic semitone | ! style="width: 90px;" | Diatonic<br>semitone | ||
! Diesis | ! Diesis | ||
! Kleisma | ! Kleisma | ||
|- | |- | ||
! A1 | |||
! m2 | |||
! d2 | |||
! −dd2 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| [[12edo | | [[12edo]] | ||
| {{frac|11}} comma | | {{frac|11}} comma | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
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| 0 | | 0 | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| Chromatic semitone is equal to kleisma, diesis is tempered out | | Chromatic semitone is equal to kleisma,<br />diesis is tempered out | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[19edo | | [[19edo]] | ||
| {{frac|3}} comma | | {{frac|3}} comma | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
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| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 0 | | 0 | ||
| Chromatic semitone is equal to diesis, kleisma is tempered out | | Chromatic semitone is equal to diesis,<br />kleisma is tempered out | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[26edo | | [[26edo]] | ||
| | | | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| 3 | | 3 | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
| −1 | | −1 | ||
| | | Chromatic semitone is smaller than diesis,<br />kleisma is negative | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[31edo]] | |||
| [[31edo | |||
| {{frac|4}} comma | | {{frac|4}} comma | ||
| 2 | | 2 | ||
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| Diesis is equal to kleisma | | Diesis is equal to kleisma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[43edo | | [[33edo#Theory|33c-edo]] | ||
| {{frac|2}} comma | |||
| 1 | |||
| 4 | |||
| 3 | |||
| −2 | |||
| Chromatic semitone is smaller than diesis,<br />kleisma is negative | |||
|- | |||
| [[43edo]] | |||
| {{frac|5}} comma | | {{frac|5}} comma | ||
| 3 | | 3 | ||
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| rowspan="2" | Diesis is smaller than kleisma | | rowspan="2" | Diesis is smaller than kleisma | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[55edo | | [[55edo]] | ||
| {{frac|6}} comma | | {{frac|6}} comma | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
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| 3 | | 3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| [[50edo | | [[50edo]] | ||
| {{frac|2|7}} comma | | {{frac|2|7}} comma | ||
| 3 | | 3 | ||
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|} | |} | ||
In 33c-edo, 5/4 is mapped to {{nowrap|10\33 {{=}} 364{{c}}}} instead of {{nowrap|11\33 {{=}} 400{{c}}}}. | |||
[[ | [[9-odd-limit]] intervals and their notation relative to C: | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|- | |||
! Note | ! Note | ||
| C | | C | ||
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| style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | E | | style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | E | ||
| A | | A | ||
| | | E♭ | ||
| | | A♭ | ||
| style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | | | style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | A♯ <br />B♭↓ | ||
| | | D♯<br />E♭↓ | ||
| | | F♯<br />G♭↓ | ||
| | | E<br>D↓ | ||
| | | B<br>A↓ | ||
| | | G♭<br />F♯↓ | ||
| colspan="2" style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | D | | colspan="2" style="border-left: 5px solid black;" | D | ||
| colspan="2" | | | colspan="2" | B♭ | ||
| | | F♭<br />E↑ | ||
| | | G♯ <br />A♭↓ | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Just interval | ! Just interval | ||
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|} | |} | ||
Two dieses or two kleismas cannot be stacked to produce a chromatic semitone except in 31edo, and notation for [[11-limit]] and [[13-limit]] intervals (intervals involving the [[11/8|11th harmonic]] and [[13/8|13th harmonic]]) can vary | Two dieses or two kleismas cannot be stacked to produce a chromatic semitone except in 31edo, and notation for [[11-limit]] and [[13-limit]] intervals (intervals involving the [[11/8|11th harmonic]] and [[13/8|13th harmonic]]) can vary. | ||
== True half-sharps and half-flats == | == True half-sharps and half-flats == | ||
If sharps raise by an even number of | If sharps raise by an even number of edosteps, such as [[24-tone equal temperament]] (quarter tones) and [[31-tone equal temperament]] (approximately extended [[quarter-comma meantone]]), they (along with flats) can be split in half. Thus, some notes can be notated using semisharps and semiflats, or with [[ups and downs notation|ups and downs]]. | ||
For example, in 31 equal, the chromatic scale becomes: | For example, in 31 equal, the chromatic scale becomes: | ||
{{dash|C, | {{dash|C, D𝄫, C♯, D♭, C𝄪, D, E𝄫, D♯, E♭, D𝄪, E, F♭, E♯, F, G𝄫, F♯, G♭, F𝄪, G, A𝄫, G♯, A♭, G𝄪, A, B𝄫, A♯, B♭, A𝄪, B, C♭, B♯, C|hair|long}} | ||
Note that the base note letters alternate. | Note that the base note letters alternate. | ||
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Using semisharps and semiflats, this can be re-written as: | Using semisharps and semiflats, this can be re-written as: | ||
{{dash|C, C{{demisharp2}}, | {{dash|C, C{{demisharp2}}, C♯, D♭, D{{demiflat2}}, D, D{{demisharp2}}, D♯, E♭, E{{demiflat2}}, E, E{{demisharp2}}, F{{demiflat2}}, F, F{{demisharp2}}, F♯, G♭, G{{demiflat2}}, G, G{{demisharp2}}, G♯, A♭, A{{demiflat2}}, A, A{{demisharp2}}, A♯, B♭, B{{demiflat2}}, B, B{{demisharp2}}, C{{demiflat2}}, C|hair|long}} | ||
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If true half-sharps and true half-flats are desired, which exactly bisect the chromatic semitone, the meantone fifth is split in half. This creates a new tuning system consisting of a two-dimensional lattice generated by a chain of neutral thirds, with meantone existing as every other note in the generator chain. This adds true half-sharps and half-flats, and creates a "neutral" version of each interval class. | If true half-sharps and true half-flats are desired, which exactly bisect the chromatic semitone, the meantone fifth is split in half. This creates a new tuning system consisting of a two-dimensional lattice generated by a chain of neutral thirds, with meantone existing as every other note in the generator chain. This adds true half-sharps and half-flats, and creates a "neutral" version of each interval class. | ||
While real-world Arabic and Persian music often involve many very fine microtonal details (such as the use of multiple unequal neutral intervals) and exhibit significant regional variations, and are very difficult to notate exactly as a result, they are commonly notated using half-sharps and half-flats. If we take these to be exactly equal to one-half of a chromatic semitone, then mathematically, this notation system results in the aforementioned two-dimensional lattice. If notes separated by a diminished second, such as | While real-world Arabic and Persian music often involve many very fine microtonal details (such as the use of multiple unequal neutral intervals) and exhibit significant regional variations, and are very difficult to notate exactly as a result, they are commonly notated using half-sharps and half-flats. If we take these to be exactly equal to one-half of a chromatic semitone, then mathematically, this notation system results in the aforementioned two-dimensional lattice. If notes separated by a diminished second, such as C♯ and D♭, are made enharmonically equivalent, this lattice degenerates further into 24edo, which is often suggested as a simplified framework and tuning system for notating and playing Arabic and Persian music. But the usual written notation typically lets musicians and composers treat adjacent sharps and flats as two distinct entities if it is decided that they should be different. | ||
The chain-of-neutral-thirds tuning system is not a true "temperament," because it is [[contorted]]: the neutral third does not have any just interval mapping to it in the 7-limit. But, if we bring in the 11th harmonic, and decide that there should only be a single neutral second (resulting in 11/10 and 12/11, the greater and lesser neutral seconds, both being mapped to a single equally-tempered interval), we obtain [[mohajira]], a very accurate 11-limit temperament. The neutral third approximates 11/9, and two of them make a perfect fifth, resulting in [[243/242]] being tempered out. Furthermore, flattening a minor third by a half-flat results in an approximation of 7/6, while sharpening a major third by a half-sharp gives an approximation of 9/7. Mohajira is supported very well by 24edo and 31edo. | The chain-of-neutral-thirds tuning system is not a true "temperament," because it is [[contorted]]: the neutral third does not have any just interval mapping to it in the 7-limit. But, if we bring in the 11th harmonic, and decide that there should only be a single neutral second (resulting in 11/10 and 12/11, the greater and lesser neutral seconds, both being mapped to a single equally-tempered interval), we obtain [[mohajira]], a very accurate 11-limit temperament. The neutral third approximates 11/9, and two of them make a perfect fifth, resulting in [[243/242]] being tempered out. Furthermore, flattening a minor third by a half-flat results in an approximation of 7/6, while sharpening a major third by a half-sharp gives an approximation of 9/7. Mohajira is supported very well by 24edo and 31edo. | ||
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Latest revision as of 22:30, 4 May 2025
Meantone can be notated with a chain of fifths consisting of the 7 natural notes along with sharps and flats:
... F𝄫 — C𝄫 — G𝄫 — D𝄫 — A𝄫 — E𝄫 — B𝄫 — F♭ — C♭ — G♭ — D♭ — A♭ — E♭ — B♭ — F — C — G — D — A — E — B — F♯ — C♯ — G♯ — D♯ — A♯ — E♯ — B♯ — F𝄪 — C𝄪 — G𝄪 — D𝄪 — A𝄪 — E𝄪 — B𝄪 ...
The chain is theoretically infinite, and C♯ and D♭ are not (in general) equivalent. When meantone is extended beyond 12 notes, it may require double-sharps, double-flats, and beyond. To avoid this, two new accidental pairs are introduced that raise/lower by the diesis and the kleisma.
Symbol | Interval | Examples | Fifthspan | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Raise | Lower | ||||
♯ | ♭ | Chromatic semitone |
Augmented unison (A1) |
C–C♯ E♭–E |
+7 |
↑ | ↓ | Diesis | Diminished 2nd (d2) | C♯–D♭ D♯–E |
−12 |
+ | − | Kleisma | Negative double- diminished 2nd (-dd2) |
C♭ – B♯ F♭ – E♯ |
+19 |
Because 19 − 12 = 7, d2 + −dd2 = A1, and a diesis plus a kleisma equals a chromatic semitone.
An octave is made up of:
- 7 diatonic semitones and 5 chromatic semitones = 7 m2 + 5 A1 = 12 steps
- 12 chromatic semitones and 7 dieses = 12 A1 + 7 d2 = 19 steps
- 19 dieses and 12 kleismas = 19 d2 + 12 −dd2 = 31 steps
The diesis represents the just intervals 128/125 and 648/625 among others, while the meantone kleisma represents 15625/15552 = [-6 -5 6⟩ and 3125/3072 = [-10 -1 5⟩ among others. In septimal meantone, where 7/4 is an augmented sixth, the diesis also represents 36/35, 50/49, and 64/63, while the kleisma also represents 49/48 and 245/243.
The enharmonic unisons ↓d2 and −↓A1 create various notational equivalences:
- B♯↑ and B𝄪− are equal to C
- C+↑ is equal to C♯ (because the two semisharps add up)
- D𝄫↓ and D♭♭♭− are equal to C
If the fifth is wider than 7\12 = 700 ¢, C♯ is higher in pitch than D♭ and the diesis becomes a descending pythagorean comma. In 12edo, the tempering out of the diesis means that C♯ = D♭.
If the fifth is narrower than 11\19 = ~695¢, B♯ is lower in pitch than C♭ and the kleisma becomes a descending double-diminished 2nd. In 19edo, the tempering out of the kleisma means that B♯ = C♭.
EDO | Approximate syntonic comma fraction |
Steps | Relative sizes of the chromatic semitone, diesis, and kleisma | |||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Chromatic semitone |
Diatonic semitone |
Diesis | Kleisma | |||
A1 | m2 | d2 | −dd2 | |||
12edo | 1⁄11 comma | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | Chromatic semitone is equal to kleisma, diesis is tempered out |
19edo | 1⁄3 comma | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | Chromatic semitone is equal to diesis, kleisma is tempered out |
26edo | 1 | 3 | 2 | −1 | Chromatic semitone is smaller than diesis, kleisma is negative | |
31edo | 1⁄4 comma | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Diesis is equal to kleisma |
33c-edo | 1⁄2 comma | 1 | 4 | 3 | −2 | Chromatic semitone is smaller than diesis, kleisma is negative |
43edo | 1⁄5 comma | 3 | 4 | 1 | 2 | Diesis is smaller than kleisma |
55edo | 1⁄6 comma | 4 | 5 | 1 | 3 | |
50edo | 2⁄7 comma | 3 | 5 | 2 | 1 | Diesis is larger than kleisma |
In 33c-edo, 5/4 is mapped to 10\33 = 364 ¢ instead of 11\33 = 400 ¢.
9-odd-limit intervals and their notation relative to C:
Note | C | G | F | E | A | E♭ | A♭ | A♯ B♭↓ |
D♯ E♭↓ |
F♯ G♭↓ |
E D↓ |
B A↓ |
G♭ F♯↓ |
D | B♭ | F♭ E↑ |
G♯ A♭↓ | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Just interval | 1/1 | 3/2 | 4/3 | 5/4 | 5/3 | 6/5 | 8/5 | 7/4 | 7/6 | 7/5 | 8/7 | 12/7 | 10/7 | 9/8 | 10/9 | 9/5 | 16/9 | 9/7 | 14/9 |
Two dieses or two kleismas cannot be stacked to produce a chromatic semitone except in 31edo, and notation for 11-limit and 13-limit intervals (intervals involving the 11th harmonic and 13th harmonic) can vary.
True half-sharps and half-flats
If sharps raise by an even number of edosteps, such as 24-tone equal temperament (quarter tones) and 31-tone equal temperament (approximately extended quarter-comma meantone), they (along with flats) can be split in half. Thus, some notes can be notated using semisharps and semiflats, or with ups and downs.
For example, in 31 equal, the chromatic scale becomes:
C — D𝄫 — C♯ — D♭ — C𝄪 — D — E𝄫 — D♯ — E♭ — D𝄪 — E — F♭ — E♯ — F — G𝄫 — F♯ — G♭ — F𝄪 — G — A𝄫 — G♯ — A♭ — G𝄪 — A — B𝄫 — A♯ — B♭ — A𝄪 — B — C♭ — B♯ — C
Note that the base note letters alternate.
Using semisharps and semiflats, this can be re-written as:
C — C — C♯ — D♭ — D
— D — D
— D♯ — E♭ — E
— E — E
— F
— F — F
— F♯ — G♭ — G
— G — G
— G♯ — A♭ — A
— A — A
— A♯ — B♭ — B
— B — B
— C
— C
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