User:VectorGraphics/Porcupine family
- This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.
The porcupine family of temperaments tempers out the porcupine comma, 250/243, also called the maximal diesis. This comma splits 4/3 into three equal parts, and 6/5 makes up two of those parts. Thus, the generator is mapped to 10/9. Mathematically, (10/9)3 = (4/3)⋅(250/243), and (10/9)5 = (8/5)⋅(250/243)2. 3\22 is a very recommendable generator, and mos scales of 7, 8 and 15 notes make for some nice scale possibilities.
It most naturally manifests as a 2.3.5.11 subgroup temperament, where it tempers out 100/99 and 55/54 equating the generator to 11/10 as well as 10/9.
Porcupine
5-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5
Comma list: 250/243
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3], ⟨0 -3 -5]]
- mapping generators: ~2, ~10/9
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/9 = 164.166
- error map: ⟨0.000 +5.547 -7.143]
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/9 = 163.950
- error map: ⟨0.000 +6.194 -6.065]
- 5-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~10/9 = [150.000, 171.429] (1\8 to 1\7)
- 5-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~10/9 = [157.821, 166.015]
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 15, 22, 95c
Badness (Smith): 0.030778
2.3.5.11 subgroup (porkypine)
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99
Sval mapping: [⟨1 2 3 4], ⟨0 -3 -5 -4]]
Gencom mapping: [⟨1 2 3 0 4], ⟨0 -3 -5 0 -4]]
- gencom: [2 10/9; 55/54, 100/99]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 163.887
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 164.078
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 15, 22, 73ce, 95ce
Badness (Smith): 0.0097
Undecimation
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 512/507
Sval mapping: [⟨1 5 8 8 2], ⟨0 -6 -10 -8 3]]
- sval mapping generators: ~2, ~65/44
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~88/65 = 518.086
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~88/65 = 518.209
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 23bc, 30, 37, 44
Badness (Smith): 0.0305
Strong extensions
Septimal porcupine
Septimal porcupine uses six of its minor tone generator steps to get to 7/4. Here, we share the same mapping of 7/4 in terms of fifths as archy. For this to work you need a small minor tone such as 22edo provides, and once again 3\22 is a good tuning choice, though we might pick in preference 8\59, 11\81, or 19\140 for our generator. This extends porcupine to the full 11-limit:
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 2 4], ⟨0 -3 -5 6 -4]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 163.105
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 162.747
Minimax tuning:
- 11-odd-limit: ~11/10 = [1/6 -1/6 0 1/12⟩
- eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.9/7
Tuning ranges:
- 11-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~11/10 = [160.000, 163.636] (2\15 to 3\22)
- 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~11/10 = [150.637, 182.404]
(7-limit) Optimal ET sequence: 7, 15, 22, 37, 59, 81bd
(11-limit) Optimal ET sequence: 7, 15, 22, 37, 59
Badness (Smith): 0.021562
Tridecimal porcupine
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 40/39, 55/54, 64/63, 66/65
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 2 4 4], ⟨0 -3 -5 6 -4 -2]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 163.442
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 162.708
Minimax tuning:
- 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~10/9 = [1 0 0 0 -1/4⟩
- eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.11
Tuning ranges:
- 13-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~11/10 = [160.000, 163.636] (2\15 to 3\22)
- 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~11/10 = 163.636 (3\22)
- 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~11/10 = [138.573, 182.404]
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 15, 22f, 37f
Badness (Smith): 0.021276
Porcupinefish
- Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 91/90, 100/99
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 2 4 6], ⟨0 -3 -5 6 -4 -17]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 162.636
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 162.277
Minimax tuning:
- 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~10/9 = [2/13 0 0 0 1/13 -1/13⟩
- eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.13/11
Tuning ranges:
- 13-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~10/9 = [160.000, 162.162] (2\15 to 5\37)
- 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~10/9 = 162.162 (5\37)
- 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~10/9 = [150.637, 182.404]
Optimal ET sequence: 15, 22, 37
Badness (Smith): 0.025314
Pourcup
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 100/99, 196/195
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 2 4 1], ⟨0 -3 -5 6 -4 20]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 163.378
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 162.482
Minimax tuning:
- 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~11/10 = [1/14 0 0 -1/14 0 1/14⟩
- eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.13/7
Optimal ET sequence: 15f, 22f, 37, 59f
Badness (Smith): 0.035130
Porkpie
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 64/63, 65/63, 100/99
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 2 4 3], ⟨0 -3 -5 6 -4 5]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 163.678
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 163.688
Minimax tuning:
- 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~11/10 = [1/6 -1/6 0 1/12⟩
- eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.9/7
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 15f, 22
Badness (Smith): 0.026043
Porky
Porky can be described as 7d & 22, suggesting a less sharp perfect fifth. 7\51 is a good generator.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 225/224
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 5 4], ⟨0 -3 -5 -16 -4]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 3 5 16 4 1 17 -4 23 -8 -44 ]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 164.321
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 164.552
Minimax tuning:
- 11-odd-limit: ~11/10 = [2/11 0 1/11 -1/11⟩
- eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.7/5
Optimal ET sequence: 7d, 15d, 22, 29, 51, 73c (7-limit)
Optimal ET sequence: 7d, 15d, 22, 51
Badness (Smith): 0.027268
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 65/64, 91/90, 100/99
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 5 4 3], ⟨0 -3 -5 -16 -4 5]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 164.478
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 164.953
Optimal ET sequence: 7d, 22, 29, 51f, 80cdeff
Badness (Smith): 0.026543
- Music
- Improvisation in 29edo (2024) by Budjarn Lambeth – in Palace scale, 29edo tuning
Opossum
Opossum can be described as 7d & 8d. Tempering out 28/27, the perfect fifth of three generator steps is conflated with not 32/21 as in porcupine but 14/9. Three such fifths or nine generator steps octave reduced give a flat 7/4. 2\15 is a good generator.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 28/27, 55/54, 77/75
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 4 4], ⟨0 -3 -5 -9 -4]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 3 5 9 4 1 6 -4 7 -8 -20 ]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 161.365
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 159.807
Minimax tuning:
- 11-odd-limit eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.7
Optimal ET sequence: 7d, 8d, 15
Badness (Smith): 0.022325
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 28/27, 40/39, 55/54, 66/65
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 4 4 4], ⟨0 -3 -5 -9 -4 -2]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 161.631
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 158.805
Minimax tuning:
- 13- and 15-odd-limit eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.7
Optimal ET sequence: 7d, 8d, 15, 38bceff
Badness (Smith): 0.019389
Coendou
Coendou can be described as 7 & 29, suggesting an even less sharp or near-just perfect fifth. 9\65 is a good generator.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 525/512
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 1 4], ⟨0 -3 -5 13 -4]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 165.925
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 165.981
Minimax tuning:
- 11-odd-limit: ~11/10 = [2/3 -1/3⟩
- eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.3
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 22d, 29, 65c, 94cd (7-limit)
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 22d, 29, 65ce
Badness (Smith): 0.049669
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 65/64, 100/99, 105/104
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 1 4 3], ⟨0 -3 -5 13 -4 5]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 166.046
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 165.974
Minimax tuning:
- 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~11/10 = [2/3 -1/3⟩
- eigenmonzo (unchanged-interval) basis: 2.3
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 22d, 29, 65cef
Badness (Smith): 0.030233
Hystrix
Hystrix provides a less complex avenue to the 7-limit, with the generator taking on the role of approximating 8/7. Unfortunately in temperaments as in life you get what you pay for, and hystrix is very high in error due to the large disparity between typical porcupine generators and a justly-tuned 8/7, and is usually considered an exotemperament. A generator of 2\15 or 9\68 can be used for hystrix.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 22/21, 36/35, 80/77
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 3 4], ⟨0 -3 -5 -1 -4]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 164.768
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~11/10 = 158.750
Optimal ET sequence: 7, 8d, 15d
Badness (Smith): 0.026790
Oxygen
Oxygen is perhaps not meant to be used as a serious temperament of harmony. Its comma basis suggests potential utility to construct Fokker blocks.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Comma list: 21/20, 175/162
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 3], ⟨0 -3 -5 -2]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 3 5 2 1 -5 -9 ]]
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/9 = 161.341
- error map: ⟨0.000 +14.023 +6.982 -91.507]
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~10/9 = 169.112
- error map: ⟨0.000 -9.291 -31.873 -107.050]
Optimal ET sequence: 1c, …, 6bcd, 7d
Badness (Smith): 0.059866
Hedgehog
- 245/243, the sensamagic comma. It is a strong extension of BPS (as BPS has no 2 or sqrt(2)). 22edo provides the obvious (i.e the only patent val) tuning, but if you are looking for an alternative you could try the ⟨146 232 338 411] (146bccdd) val with generator 10\73, or you could try 164 cents if you are fond of round numbers. The 14-note mos gives scope for harmony while stopping well short of 22. A related temperament is echidna, which offers much more accuracy. They merge on 22edo. Hedgehog has a period 1/2 octave and a generator which can be taken to be 9/7 instead of 10/9. It also tempers out
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 50/49, 55/54, 99/98
Mapping: [⟨2 1 1 2 4], ⟨0 3 5 5 4]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 6 10 10 8 2 -1 -8 -5 -16 -12 ]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~7/5 = 600.000, ~9/7 = 435.528
- POTE: ~7/5 = 600.000, ~9/7 = 435.386
Optimal ET sequence: 8d, 14c, 22 (7-limit)
Optimal ET sequence: 8d, 14c, 22, 58ce
Badness (Smith): 0.023095
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 50/49, 55/54, 65/63, 99/98
Mapping: [⟨2 1 1 2 4 3], ⟨0 3 5 5 4 6]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~7/5 = 600.000, ~9/7 = 436.309
- POTE: ~7/5 = 600.000, ~9/7 = 435.861
Optimal ET sequence: 8d, 14cf, 22
Badness (Smith): 0.021516
Urchin
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 40/39, 50/49, 55/54, 66/65
Mapping: [⟨2 1 1 2 4 6], ⟨0 3 5 5 4 2]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~7/5 = 600.000, ~9/7 = 435.186
- POTE: ~7/5 = 600.000, ~9/7 = 437.078
Badness (Smith): 0.025233
Hedgepig
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 50/49, 245/243, 385/384
Mapping: [⟨2 1 1 2 12], ⟨0 3 5 5 -7]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 6 10 10 -14 2 -1 -43 -5 -67 -74 ]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~7/5 = 600.000, ~9/7 = 435.329
- POTE: ~7/5 = 600.000, ~9/7 = 435.425
Optimal ET sequence: 22
Badness (Smith): 0.068406
- Music
- Phobos Light by Chris Vaisvil – in hedgehog[14], 22edo tuning.
Nautilus
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 49/48, 55/54, 245/242
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 3 4], ⟨0 -6 -10 -3 -8]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 6 10 3 8 2 -12 -8 -21 -16 12 ]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 81.802
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 82.504
Optimal ET sequence: 14c, 15, 29, 44d
Badness (Smith): 0.026023
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 49/48, 55/54, 91/90, 100/99
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 3 4 5], ⟨0 -6 -10 -3 -8 -19]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 81.912
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 82.530
Optimal ET sequence: 14cf, 15, 29, 44d
Badness (Smith): 0.022285
Belauensis
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 40/39, 49/48, 55/54, 66/65
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 3 4 4], ⟨0 -6 -10 -3 -8 -4]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 82.034
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/20 = 81.759
Optimal ET sequence: 14c, 15, 29f, 44dff
Badness (Smith): 0.029816
- Music
Ammonite
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 686/675
Mapping: [⟨1 5 8 10 8], ⟨0 -9 -15 -19 -12]]
Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 9 15 19 12 3 5 -12 2 -24 -32 ]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~9/7 = 454.505
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~9/7 = 454.512
Optimal ET sequence: 8d, 21cd, 29, 37, 66 (7-limit)
Optimal ET sequence: 8d, 21cde, 29, 37, 66
Badness (Smith): 0.045694
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168
Mapping: [⟨1 5 8 10 8 9], ⟨0 -9 -15 -19 -12 -14]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~13/10 = 454.480
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~13/10 = 454.529
Optimal ET sequence: 8d, 21cdef, 29, 37, 66
Badness (Smith): 0.027168
Ceratitid
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 55/54, 100/99, 352/343
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 3 4], ⟨0 -9 -15 -4 -12]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~36/35 = 54.702
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~36/35 = 54.376
Optimal ET sequence: 1c, 21c, 22 (7-limit)
Optimal ET sequence: 1ce, 21ce, 22
Badness (Smith): 0.051319
13-limit
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 55/54, 65/63, 100/99, 352/343
Mapping: [⟨1 2 3 3 4 4], ⟨0 -9 -15 -4 -12 -7]]
Optimal tunings:
- CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~36/35 = 54.575
- POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~36/35 = 54.665
Optimal ET sequence: 1ce, 21cef, 22
Badness (Smith): 0.044739