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Xenllium (talk | contribs)
Reflect difference of 7-odd-limit diamond tradeoff and 9-odd-limit diamond tradeoff on some temperaments
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adding parenthetical "(unchanged intervals)" to eigenmonzo lists
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[[Minimax tuning]]:  
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
* [[5-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/4 }}
* [[5-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/4 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 5


[[Tuning ranges]]:  
[[Tuning ranges]]:  
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* [[7-odd-limit|7-]] and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/4 }}
* [[7-odd-limit|7-]] and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/4 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| -3 0 5/2 0 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| -3 0 5/2 0 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 5


[[Tuning ranges]]:  
[[Tuning ranges]]:  
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* [[11-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 9/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }}
* [[11-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 9/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 25/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }}, {{Monzo| 9/4 -1/2 0 0 1/4 }}, {{Monzo| 21/8 -5/4 0 0 5/8 }}, {{Monzo| 25/8 -9/4 0 0 9/8 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 25/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }}, {{Monzo| 9/4 -1/2 0 0 1/4 }}, {{Monzo| 21/8 -5/4 0 0 5/8 }}, {{Monzo| 25/8 -9/4 0 0 9/8 }}]
: Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/9
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 11/9


Tuning ranges:  
Tuning ranges:  
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* [[13-odd-limit|13-]] and [[15-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 9/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }}
* [[13-odd-limit|13-]] and [[15-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 9/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }}
: Eigenmonzos: 2, 11/9
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 11/9


Vals: {{Val list| 12f, 19e, 31 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 12f, 19e, 31 }}
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* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 8/13 0 0 1/26 0 -1/26 }}
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 8/13 0 0 1/26 0 -1/26 }}
: Eigenmonzos: 2, 14/13
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 14/13


Tuning ranges:  
Tuning ranges:  
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* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 14/25 -2/25 0 0 0 1/25 }}
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 14/25 -2/25 0 0 0 1/25 }}
: Eigenmonzos: 2, 18/13
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 18/13


Vals: {{Val list| 12f, 31f, 43 }}
Vals: {{Val list| 12f, 31f, 43 }}
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* 11-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/4 }}
* 11-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/4 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| -3 0 5/2 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 11 0 -13/4 0 0 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| -3 0 5/2 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 11 0 -13/4 0 0 }}]
: Eigenmonzos: 2, 5
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 5


Tuning ranges:  
Tuning ranges:  
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* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 4/7 0 0 0 -1/28 1/28 }}
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 4/7 0 0 0 -1/28 1/28 }}
: Eigenmonzos: 2, 13/11
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 13/11


Tuning ranges:  
Tuning ranges:  
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* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 11/13 0 0 0 -1/13 }}
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 11/13 0 0 0 -1/13 }}
: Eigenmonzos: 2, 11
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 11


Vals: {{Val list| 12e, 19, 31f, 50ff, 81fff }}
Vals: {{Val list| 12e, 19, 31f, 50ff, 81fff }}
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* [[7-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 8/13 0 1/13 -1/13 }}
* [[7-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 8/13 0 1/13 -1/13 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 21/13 0 1/13 -1/13 }}, {{Monzo| 32/13 0 4/13 -4/13 }}, {{Monzo| 32/13 0 -9/13 9/13 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 21/13 0 1/13 -1/13 }}, {{Monzo| 32/13 0 4/13 -4/13 }}, {{Monzo| 32/13 0 -9/13 9/13 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 7/5
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 7/5
* [[9-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 6/11 2/11 0 -1/11 }}
* [[9-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{Monzo| 6/11 2/11 0 -1/11 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 17/11 2/11 0 -1/11 }}, {{Monzo| 24/11 8/11 0 -4/11 }}, {{Monzo| 34/11 -18/11 0 9/11 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 17/11 2/11 0 -1/11 }}, {{Monzo| 24/11 8/11 0 -4/11 }}, {{Monzo| 34/11 -18/11 0 9/11 }}]
: Eigenmonzos: 2, 9/7
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 9/7


[[Tuning ranges]]:  
[[Tuning ranges]]:  
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* [[7-odd-limit|7-]] and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~128/105 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/8 }}
* [[7-odd-limit|7-]] and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~128/105 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/8 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| 6 0 -11/8 0 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| 6 0 -11/8 0 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 5


[[Tuning ranges]]:
[[Tuning ranges]]:
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* [[11-odd-limit]]: ~11/9 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/8 }}
* [[11-odd-limit]]: ~11/9 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/8 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 6 0 -11/8 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 2 0 5/8 0 0 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 6 0 -11/8 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 2 0 5/8 0 0 }}]
: Eigenmonzos: 2, 5
: Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 5


[[Tuning ranges]]:
[[Tuning ranges]]:
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* [[7-odd-limit|7-]] and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~8/7 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/12 }}
* [[7-odd-limit|7-]] and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~8/7 = {{Monzo| 0 0 1/12 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| 3 0 -1/12 0 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| 3 0 -1/12 0 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 5


{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 26, 31 }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 5, 26, 31 }}
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* 7- and 9-odd-limit: ~9/7 = {{Monzo| 1/2 0 -1/16 }}
* 7- and 9-odd-limit: ~9/7 = {{Monzo| 1/2 0 -1/16 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| 3/2 0 9/16 0 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| 3/2 0 9/16 0 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 5


[[Algebraic generator]]: Sceptre2, the positive root of 9''x''<sup>2</sup> + ''x'' - 16, or (sqrt (577) - 1)/18, which is 425.9311 cents.
[[Algebraic generator]]: Sceptre2, the positive root of 9''x''<sup>2</sup> + ''x'' - 16, or (sqrt (577) - 1)/18, which is 425.9311 cents.
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* 7- and 9-odd-limit: ~10/7 = {{Monzo| 1/3 0 1/12 }}
* 7- and 9-odd-limit: ~10/7 = {{Monzo| 1/3 0 1/12 }}
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| 2/3 0 11/12 0 }}]
: [{{Monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{Monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 }}, {{Monzo| 0 0 1 0 }}, {{Monzo| 2/3 0 11/12 0 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 5


[[Algebraic generator]]: Radix, the real root of ''x''<sup>5</sup> - 2''x''<sup>4</sup> + 2''x''<sup>3</sup> - 2''x''<sup>2</sup> + 2''x'' - 2, also a root of ''x''<sup>6</sup> - ''x''<sup>5</sup> - 2. The recurrence converges.
[[Algebraic generator]]: Radix, the real root of ''x''<sup>5</sup> - 2''x''<sup>4</sup> + 2''x''<sup>3</sup> - 2''x''<sup>2</sup> + 2''x'' - 2, also a root of ''x''<sup>6</sup> - ''x''<sup>5</sup> - 2. The recurrence converges.