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In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''17/16''' is the 17th [[harmonic]], [[octave reduced]], and may be called the '''large septendecimal semitone'''. Measuring about 105¢, it is close to the [[12edo]] semitone of 100¢, and thus 12edo can be said to approximate it closely. In a chord, it can function similarly to a jazz "minor ninth" – for instance, 8:10:12:14:17 (although here the interval is 17/8, which is a little less harsh sounding than 17/16). In 17-limit JI, it is treated as the next basic consonance after 13 and 15.
In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''17/16''' is the 17th [[harmonic]], [[octave reduced]], and may be called the '''large septendecimal semitone'''. Measuring about 105¢, it is close to the [[12edo]] semitone of 100¢, and thus 12edo can be said to approximate it closely. In a chord, it can function similarly to a jazz "minor ninth" – for instance, 8:10:12:14:17 (although here the interval is 17/8, which is a little less harsh sounding than 17/16). In 17-limit JI, it is treated as the next basic consonance after 13 and 15.


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== Terminology and notation ==
== Terminology and notation ==
There exists a disagreement in different conceptualization systems on whether 17/16 should be a [[diatonic semitone]] or a [[chromatic semitone]]. In [[Functional Just System]], it is a diatonic semitone, separated by [[4131/4096]] from [[256/243]], the Pythagorean diatonic semitone. It is also called the '''minor diatonic semitone''' (→ [[Wikipedia: Minor diatonic semitone]]), which contrasts the [[5-limit]] major diatonic semitone of [[16/15]] by [[256/255]], about 6.8¢. In [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]], it is a [[chromatic semitone]], separated by [[2187/2176]] from [[2187/2048]], the Pythagorean chromatic semitone. The term "large septendecimal semitone" omits the diatonic/chromatic part and only describes its melodic property i.e. the size.  
There exists a disagreement in different conceptualization systems on whether 17/16 should be a [[diatonic semitone]] or a [[chromatic semitone]]. In [[Functional Just System]], it is a diatonic semitone, separated by [[4131/4096]] from [[256/243]], the Pythagorean diatonic semitone. It is also called the '''minor diatonic semitone''', which contrasts the [[5-limit]] major diatonic semitone of [[16/15]] by [[256/255]], about 6.8¢. In [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]], it is a [[chromatic semitone]], separated by [[2187/2176]] from [[2187/2048]], the Pythagorean chromatic semitone. The term "large septendecimal semitone" omits the diatonic/chromatic part and only describes its melodic property i.e. the size.  


In practice, the interval category may, arguably, vary by context. One solution for the JI user who uses expanded [[circle-of-fifths notation]] is to prepare a [[Pythagorean comma]] accidental so that the interval can be notated in either category.
In practice, the interval category may, arguably, vary by context. One solution for the JI user who uses expanded [[circle-of-fifths notation]] is to prepare a [[Pythagorean comma]] accidental so that the interval can be notated in either category.