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==Other mos names==
== Names for mosses beyond 10 notes ==
This section describes additional names for groups of mosses or for mosses or that have more than 10 notes but are worthy of names.
This section outlines proposed names and naming suggestions for mosses beyond 10 notes.


=== Names for mos descendants with more than 5 periods ===
=== Names for mos descendants with more than 5 periods ===
To name mos descendants with more than 5 periods, the names for wood mosses are extended to hexawood, heptawood (or septawood), octawood, nonawood (or enneawood), and decawood. (This is not too different from Frostburn's proposal.) Beyond that, the naming scheme becomes 11-wood, 12-wood, and so on, and mosses are referred to ''chromatic (number)-wood'', ''enharmonic (number)-wood'', and ''subchromatic (number)-wood.'' The term ''(number)-wood descendants'' is also used, and to refer to ''nth (number)-wood descendants'', the algorithm is used below to find the number of generations:
To name mos descendants with more than 5 periods, the names for wood mosses are extended to hexawood, heptawood, octawood, enneawood, and decawood. (This is not too different from Frostburn's proposal.) Names for descendants for these scales follow the same scheme as with other TAMNAMS-named mosses.
#Let z and w be the number of large and small steps of the parent mos to be found. Assign to z and w the values x and y respectively. Let n = 0, where n is the number of generations away from zL ws.
#Let m1 be equal to max(z, w) and m2 be equal to min(z, w).
#Assign to z the value m2 and w the value m1-m2. Increment n by 1.
#If both z and w are equal to 1, then the parent mos is nL ns and is n generations from the mos descendant xL ys. If not, repeat the process starting at step 2.
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+Names for wood scales up to 10 periods
|+Names for wood scales up to 10 periods
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|6L 6s
|6L 6s
|hexawood
|hexawood
|hexwud-
|hexwd-
|hw
|hxw
|-
|-
|7L 7s
|7L 7s
|septawood or heptawood
|heptawood
|sepwud- or hepwud-
|hepwd-
|sw or hw
|hpw
|-
|-
|8L 8s
|8L 8s
|octawood
|octawood
|octwud-
|octwd-
|ow
|ocw
|-
|-
|9L 9s
|9L 9s
|nonawood or enneawood
|enneawood
|nonawud- or ennwud-
|ennwd-
|nw or enw
|enw
|-
|-
|10L 10s
|10L 10s
|decawood
|decawood
|dekwud-
|dekwd-
|dkw
|dkw
|-
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===Names for mos linear families===
=== Former names worth restoring (proposed) ===
At one point, TAMNAMS had tenuously named mosses up to 12 notes. Following reorganization back in August of 2022, many temperament-suggestive names were replaced, and names for 11 and 12-note mosses were dropped. Of those, these names are (in my opinion) worth restoring, either because these names are noteworthy (eg, m- and p-chromatic) or because these temperament-suggestive names are better suited as names for child mosses (eg, 3L 5s was named sensoid).
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="3" |11-note mosses
|-
!Mos
!Name
!Reasoning
|-
|2L 9s
|jonatonic
|Modification of an old name (joanatonic) that applied to its parent scale
|-
|4L 7s
|kleistonic
|Restoration of an old name
|-
|5L 6s
|xeimtonic
|Restoration of an old name
|-
|7L 4s
|prasmitonic
|Modification of an old name (suprasmitonic)
|-
|8L 3s
|sentonic
|Modification of an old name (sensoid) that applied to its parent scale
|-
|9L 2s
|villatonic
|Indirectly references avila casablanca temperaments
|-
|10L 1s
|miratonic
|Modification of an old name (miraculoid)
|-
! colspan="3" |12-note mosses
|-
!Mos
!Name
!Reasoning
|-
|5L 7s
|pychromatic
|Modification of an old name (p-chromatic)
|-
|6L 6s
|hexawood
|Extension of -wood scales, already part of other TAMNAMS extension proposals
|-
|7L 5s
|emchromatic
|Modification of an old name (m-chromatic)
|-
|11L 1s
|ripploid
|Restoration of an old name
|-
! colspan="3" |13-note mosses
|-
!Mos
!Name
!Reasoning
|-
|9L 4s
|orwelloid
|Restoration of an old name that applied to its parent scale
|}
 
=== Names for monolarge mosses (proposed) ===
These name suggestions are based on a proposal to rename some of the monolarge mosses to be based on gemstones and minerals, following the logic set forth for the name "onyx" for 1L 6s.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Mos
!Proposed name
!Current name
!Reasoning
|-
|1L 6s
|
|onyx
|"from ''a lot'' of naming puns"
|-
|1L 7s
|spinel
|antipine
|Contains the substring "pine"
|-
|1L 8s
|agate
|antisubneutralic
|Rhymes with eight
|-
|1L 9s
|olivine
|antisinatonic
|Rhymes with nine
|-
|1L 10s
|tanzanite, tenorite
|
|"ten"
|-
|1L 11s
|helenite
|
|"ele" substring is part of "eleven"
|-
|1L 12s
|zircon
|
|Zircon is used as a birthstone for December
|}
 
=== Other suggestions (proposed) ===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Mos(ses)
!Notes
!Name
!Reasoning
!Other names
|-
|7L 6s
|13
|tetarquintal
|"Quarter fifth" scale, referencing temperaments that divide the fifth into four
|
|-
|11L 2s
|13
|maioquartal
|"Major fourth" scale, as used by Tcherepnin
|hendecoid (proposed by Eliora)
|-
|12L 1s
|13
|quasidozenal
|"almost twelve"
|grumpy tridecatonic (Dwarf Naming Scheme)
|}
 
== Other naming schemes ==
This section describes additional naming schemes.
===Names for mos linear families (proposed)===
Mosses with the same number of large steps can be described as its own family, specifically a family of related mosses of the form xL (nx + y)s. This family starts with the mos xL ys, where x < y and n = 0, and continue with mosses with the same number of large steps but a linearly growing quantity of small steps. An example of such a family is the mos sequence 5L 2s, 5L 7s, 5L 12s, 5L 17s, etc, where each successive mos has 5 more small steps than the last.
Mosses with the same number of large steps can be described as its own family, specifically a family of related mosses of the form xL (nx + y)s. This family starts with the mos xL ys, where x < y and n = 0, and continue with mosses with the same number of large steps but a linearly growing quantity of small steps. An example of such a family is the mos sequence 5L 2s, 5L 7s, 5L 12s, 5L 17s, etc, where each successive mos has 5 more small steps than the last.


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== Names for mosses beyond 10 notes (proposed) ==
=== Equave-agnostic names (proposed) ===
This section outlines proposed names and naming suggestions for mosses beyond 10 notes.
This is a proposed scheme to name mosses regardless of the equivalence interval, either for nonoctave mosses or nested mos patterns such as with a mos cradle. Whether such a proposal is within the scope of TAMNAMS (since it currently concerns octave-equivalent and tempered-octave scales) is not known.
 
Names for these mosses are meant to be as general as possible, starting with established names that are already equave-agnostic: trivial, (an)trial, (an)tetric, (an)pentic, and pedal/manual. Mosses are named in pairs of xL ys and yL xs, where the mos with more small steps than large steps is given the an- prefix, short for anti-; this rule doesn't apply to pentic (2L 3s) and anpentic (3L 2s), where the former is the familiar pentatonic scale.
 
As there is only one pair of 6-note single-period mosses, 5L 1s and 1L 5s, the pair is named '''hexic'''.
 
With 7-note mosses, there are three pairs of mosses, whose names are based on three languages: Greek, Latin, and Sanskrit. The pair 5L 2s and 2L 5s are given the Greek-based name of '''heptic''', as 5L 2s is the familiar diatonic scale. The next pair, 3L 4s and 4L 3s, are given the Latin-based name of '''septenic'''. The last pair, 1L 6s and 6L 1s, are given the Sanskrit-based name of '''saptic''.'''''
 
This pattern is continued for all successive sequences of mosses for each successive note count: 1L ns and nL 1s are given a Sanskrit-based name, the next single-period pair after that are given a Greek-based name, and the next single-period pair after that are given a Latin-based name. The two 8-note pairs are named '''astaic''' (7L 1s and 1L 7s) and '''octic''' (5L 3s and 3L 5s) respectively. The three 9-note pairs are named '''navic''' (8L 1s and 1L 8s), '''ennaic''' (7L 2s and 2L 7s), and '''novemic''' (4L 5s and 5L 4s). Finally the two 10-note pairs are named '''dashic''' (9L 1s and 1L 9s) and '''dekic''' (7L 3s and 3L 7s).


=== Former names worth restoring ===
Only mosses with no more than 10 notes are named this way. Not only does this mirror the current convention of naming mosses up to 10 notes, but because starting at 11 notes, three languages are no longer enough to name these mosses. Multi-period mosses are not given their own names, but are represented as duplications of a smaller mos pattern.
At one point, TAMNAMS had tenuously named mosses up to 12 notes. Following reorganization back in August of 2022, many temperament-suggestive names were replaced, and names for 11 and 12-note mosses were dropped. Of those, these names are (in my opinion) worth restoring, either because these names are noteworthy (eg, m- and p-chromatic) or because these temperament-suggestive names are better suited as names for child mosses (eg, 3L 5s was named sensoid).
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="3" |11-note mosses
! colspan="6" |2-note mosses (from TAMNAMS)
|-
! colspan="2" |Mos pair
!Single-period?
!Names
!Prefix
!Language
|-
| colspan="2" |1L 1s
|Yes
|trivial
|triv-
|Latin
|-
! colspan="6" |3-note mosses (from TAMNAMS)
|-
|-
!Mos
! colspan="2" |Mos pair
!Name
!Single-period?
!Reasoning
!Names
!Prefix
!Language
|-
|-
|2L 9s
|1L 2s
|jonatonic
|2L 1s
|Modification of an old name (joanatonic) that applied to its parent scale
|Yes
|antrial and trial
|(a)tri-
|Greek/Latin
|-
|-
|4L 7s
! colspan="6" |4-note mosses (from TAMNAMS)
|kleistonic
|Restoration of an old name
|-
|-
|5L 6s
! colspan="2" |Mos pair
|xeimtonic
!Single-period?
|Restoration of an old name
!Names
!Prefix
!Language
|-
|-
|7L 4s
|1L 3s
|prasmitonic
|3L 1s
|Modification of an old name (suprasmitonic)
|Yes
|antetric and tetric
|(a)tet-
|Greek
|-
|-
|8L 3s
| colspan="2" |2L 2s
|sentonic
|No
|Modification of an old name (sensoid) that applied to its parent scale
|2-trivial
|
|
|-
|-
|9L 2s
! colspan="6" |5-note mosses (from TAMNAMS)
|villatonic
|Indirectly references avila casablanca temperaments
|-
|-
|10L 1s
! colspan="2" |Mos pair
|miratonic
!Single-period?
|Modification of an old name (miraculoid)
!Names
!Prefix
!Language
|-
|-
! colspan="3" |12-note mosses
|1L 4s
|4L 1s
|Yes
|pedal and manual
|ped- and manu-
|Latin
|-
|-
!Mos
|2L 3s
!Name
|3L 2s
!Reasoning
|Yes
|antipentic and pentic
|(a)pent-
|Greek
|-
|-
|5L 7s
! colspan="6" |6-note mosses
|pychromatic
|Modification of an old name (p-chromatic)
|-
|-
|6L 6s
! colspan="2" |Mos pair
|hexawood
!Single-period?
|Extension of -wood scales, already part of other TAMNAMS extension proposals
!Names
!Prefix
!Language
|-
|-
|7L 5s
|1L 5s
|emchromatic
|5L 1s
|Modification of an old name (m-chromatic)
|Yes
|anhexic and hexic
|(an)hexa-
|Greek
|-
|-
|11L 1s
|2L 4s
|ripploid
|4L 2s
|Restoration of an old name
|No
|2-antrial and 2-trial
|
|
|-
|-
! colspan="3" |13-note mosses
| colspan="2" |3L 3s
|No
|3-trivial
|
|
|-
|-
!Mos
! colspan="6" |7-note mosses
!Name
!Reasoning
|-
|-
|9L 4s
! colspan="2" |Mos pair
|orwelloid
!Single-period?
|Restoration of an old name that applied to its parent scale
!Names
|}
!Prefix
 
!Language
=== Names for monolarge mosses ===
These name suggestions are based on a proposal to rename some of the monolarge mosses to be based on gemstones and minerals, following the logic set forth for the name "onyx" for 1L 6s.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Mos
!Proposed name
!Current name
!Reasoning
|-
|-
|1L 6s
|1L 6s
|6L 1s
|Yes
|ansaptic and saptic
|(an)sap-
|Sanskrit
|-
|2L 5s
|5L 2s
|Yes
|anheptic and heptic
|(an)hept-
|Greek
|-
|3L 4s
|4L 3s
|Yes
|anseptenic and septenic
|(an)sept-
|Latin
|-
! colspan="6" |8-note mosses
|-
! colspan="2" |Mos pair
!Single-period?
!Names
!Prefix
!Language
|-
|1L 7s
|7L 1s
|Yes
|anastaic and astaic
|(an)asta-
|Sanskrit
|-
|2L 6s
|6L 2s
|No
|2-antetric and 2-tetric
|
|
|
|onyx
|"from ''a lot'' of naming puns"
|-
|-
|1L 7s
|3L 5s
|spinel
|5L 3s
|antipine
|Yes
|Contains the substring "pine"
|anoctic and octic
|(an)oct-
|Greek/Latin
|-
| colspan="2" |4L 4s
|No
|
|
|
|-
! colspan="6" |9-note mosses
|-
! colspan="2" |Mos pair
!Single-period?
!Names
!Prefix
!Language
|-
|-
|1L 8s
|1L 8s
|agate
|8L 1s
|antisubneutralic
|Yes
|Rhymes with eight
|annavic and navic
|(an)nav-
|Sanskrit
|-
|-
|1L 9s
|2L 7s
|olivine
|7L 2s
|antisinatonic
|Yes
|Rhymes with nine
|anennaic and ennaic
|(an)enna-
|Greek
|-
|-
|1L 10s
|3L 6s
|tanzanite, tenorite
|6L 3s
|No
|3-antrial and 3-trial
|
|
|
|"ten"
|-
|-
|1L 11s
|4L 5s
|helenite
|5L 4s
|Yes
|annovemic and novemic
|(an)nov-
|Latin
|-
! colspan="6" |10-note mosses
|-
! colspan="2" |Mos pair
!Single-period?
!Names
!Prefix
!Language
|-
|1L 9s
|9L 1s
|Yes
|andashic and dashic
|(an)dash-
|Sanskrit
|-
|2L 8s
|8L 2s
|No
|2-manual and 2-pedal
|
|
|"ele" substring is part of "eleven"
|-
|1L 12s
|zircon
|
|
|Zircon is used as a birthstone for December
|}
=== Other suggestions ===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
|-
!Mos(ses)
|3L 7s
!Notes
|7L 3s
!Name
|Yes
!Reasoning
|andekic and dekic
!Other names
|(an)dek-
|Greek
|-
|-
|7L 6s
|4L 6s
|13
|6L 4s
|tetarquintal
|No
|"Quarter fifth" scale, referencing temperaments that divide the fifth into four
|2-pentic and 2-anpentic
|
|
|
|-
|-
|11L 2s
| colspan="2" |5L 5s
|13
|No
|maioquartal
|5-trivial
|"Major fourth" scale, as used by Tcherepnin
|
|hendecoid (proposed by Eliora)
|
|-
|12L 1s
|13
|quasidozenal
|"almost twelve"
|grumpy tridecatonic (Dwarf Naming Scheme)
|}
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