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The ''33 equal division'' divides the [[octave]] into 33 equal parts of 36.3636 [[cent]]s each. It is not especially good at representing all rational intervals in the [[7-limit]], but it does very well on the 7-limit [[k*N_subgroups|3*33 subgroup]] 2.27.15.21.11.13. On this subgroup it tunes things to the same tuning as [[99edo]], and as a subgroup patent val it tempers out the same commas. The 99 equal temperaments hemififths, amity, parakleismic, hemiwuerschmidt, ennealimmal and hendecatonic can be reduced to this subgroup and give various possibilities for MOS scales, etc. In particular, the [[Chromatic_pairs#Terrain|terrain]] subgroup temperament can be tuned via the 5\33 generator. The full system of harmony provides the optimal patent val for [[Mint_temperaments#Slurpee|slurpee temperament]] in the 5, 7, 11 and 13 limits. | The ''33 equal division'' divides the [[octave]] into 33 equal parts of 36.3636 [[cent]]s each. It is not especially good at representing all rational intervals in the [[7-limit]], but it does very well on the 7-limit [[k*N_subgroups|3*33 subgroup]] 2.27.15.21.11.13. On this subgroup it tunes things to the same tuning as [[99edo]], and as a subgroup patent val it tempers out the same commas. The 99 equal temperaments hemififths, amity, parakleismic, hemiwuerschmidt, ennealimmal and hendecatonic can be reduced to this subgroup and give various possibilities for MOS scales, etc. In particular, the [[Chromatic_pairs#Terrain|terrain]] subgroup temperament can be tuned via the 5\33 generator. The full system of harmony provides the optimal patent val for [[Mint_temperaments#Slurpee|slurpee temperament]] in the 5, 7, 11 and 13 limits. | ||
While relatively uncommon, 33edo is actually quite an interesting system. As a multiple of [[11edo]], it approximates the 7th and 11th harmonics via | While relatively uncommon, 33edo is actually quite an interesting system. As a multiple of [[11edo]], it approximates the 7th and 11th harmonics via [[orgone]] temperament (see [[26edo]]). 33edo also tunes the 13th harmonic slightly flat, allowing it to approximate the 21st and 17th harmonics as well, having a [[3L 7s|3L 7s]] with L=4 s=3. It tunes the perfect fifth about 11 cents flat, leading to a near perfect 10/9. The <33 52 76| or 33c val tempers out 81/80 and so leads to a very flat meantone tuning where the major tone is approximately 10/9 in size. Leaving the scale be would result in a "flattone" [[5L 2s]] with L=5, s=4. | ||
Instead of the flat 19\33 fifth you may use the sharp fifth of 20\33, over 25 cents sharp. Two of these lead to a 9/8 of 7\33, which is about 22/19 in size and may be counted as a small third. Between the flat 5\33 version of 9/8 and the sharp 7\33 version there is, of course, a 6\33 = 2\11 [[11edo]] interval of 218 cents. Now 6\33 + 5\33 = 11\33 = 1\3 of an octave, or 400 cents, the same major third as 12edo. Also, we have both a 327 minor third from 9\33 = 3\11, the same as the [[22edo]] minor third, and a flatter 8\33 third of 291 cents, which if you like could also be called a flat 19th harmonic, but much more accurately a 13/11 sharp by 1.7 cents (if you use the patent val it is an extremely inaccurate 6/5). Another talent it has is that 7/5 is tuned quite accurately by 16\33, and we may put two 8\33 versions of 13/11 together to produce the [[cuthbert triad]]. The 8\33 generator, with MOS of size 5, 9 and 13, gives plenty of scope for these, as well as the 11, 13 and 19 harmonics (taking the generator as a 19/16) which are relatively well in tune. | Instead of the flat 19\33 fifth you may use the sharp fifth of 20\33, over 25 cents sharp. Two of these lead to a 9/8 of 7\33, which is about 22/19 in size and may be counted as a small third. Between the flat 5\33 version of 9/8 and the sharp 7\33 version there is, of course, a 6\33 = 2\11 [[11edo]] interval of 218 cents. Now 6\33 + 5\33 = 11\33 = 1\3 of an octave, or 400 cents, the same major third as 12edo. Also, we have both a 327 minor third from 9\33 = 3\11, the same as the [[22edo]] minor third, and a flatter 8\33 third of 291 cents, which if you like could also be called a flat 19th harmonic, but much more accurately a 13/11 sharp by 1.7 cents (if you use the patent val it is an extremely inaccurate 6/5). Another talent it has is that 7/5 is tuned quite accurately by 16\33, and we may put two 8\33 versions of 13/11 together to produce the [[cuthbert triad]]. The 8\33 generator, with MOS of size 5, 9 and 13, gives plenty of scope for these, as well as the 11, 13 and 19 harmonics (taking the generator as a 19/16) which are relatively well in tune. | ||
So while it might not be the most harmonically accurate temperament, it's structurally quite interesting, and it approximates the full 19-limit consort in it's way. You could even say it tunes the 23rd and 29th harmonics ten cents flat if you were so inclined; as well as getting within two cents of the 37th. | So while it might not be the most harmonically accurate temperament, it's structurally quite interesting, and it approximates the full 19-limit consort in it's way. You could even say it tunes the 23rd and 29th harmonics ten cents flat if you were so inclined; as well as getting within two cents of the 37th. | ||
Other notable 33edo scales are [[diasem]] with L:m:s = 5:3:1 and [[5L 4s]] with L:s = 5:2. | |||
== Intervals == | == Intervals == | ||
{{Odd harmonics in edo|edo=33}} | {{Odd harmonics in edo|edo=33}} | ||