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Unhighlight "porkypine". Correct mapping (adopt full 11-limit cuz otherwise it can be confusing as "2.3.5.11" isn't specified)
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}}{{Infobox regtemp|Title=Porcupine; porkypine|Subgroups=2.3.5, 2.3.5.11, 2.3.5.7.11|Comma basis=[[250/243]] (2.3.5); <br> [[100/99]], [[55/54]] (2.3.5.11)|Edo join 1=7|Edo join 2=15|Generator=10/9|Generator tuning=164|Optimization method=CWE|MOS scales=[[1L 6s]], [[7L 1s]], [[7L 8s]]|Mapping=1; -3 -5 -4|Pergen=(P8, P4/3)|Color name=Triyoti|Odd limit 1=5|Mistuning 1=?|Complexity 1=15|Odd limit 2=(2.3.5.11) 15|Mistuning 2=?|Complexity 2=22}}[[File:porcupine.png|thumb|Porcupine equates three minor thirds (6/5, in red) with two perfect fourths (4/3, in green). To do so, it tempers out 250/243, which implies a generator of a flat 10/9.|600x600px]]
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{{Infobox regtemp
| Title = Porcupine
| Subgroups = 2.3.5, 2.3.5.11, 2.3.5.7.11
| Comma basis = [[250/243]] (2.3.5); <br> [[55/54]], [[100/99]] (2.3.5.11)
| Edo join 1 = 7 | Edo join 2 = 15
| Generator = 11/10
| Generator tuning = 164
| Optimization method = CWE
| MOS scales= [[1L 6s]], [[7L 1s]], [[7L 8s]]
| Mapping = 1; -3 -5 6 -4
| Pergen = (P8, P4/3)
| Color name = Triyoti
| Odd limit 1 = 5 | Mistuning 1 = ? | Complexity 1 = 15
| Odd limit 2 = (2.3.5.11) 15 |Mistuning 2 = ? |Complexity 2 = 22
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[[File:porcupine.png|thumb|Porcupine equates three minor thirds (6/5, in red) with two perfect fourths (4/3, in green). To do so, it tempers out 250/243, which implies a generator of a flat 10/9.|600x600px]]
[[File:porcupinesymmetricminor22edo.mp3|thumb|Symmetric minor mode of the Porcupine[7] scale, containing two equal tetrachords with a major wholetone between them, in [[22edo]] tuning.]]
[[File:porcupinesymmetricminor22edo.mp3|thumb|Symmetric minor mode of the Porcupine[7] scale, containing two equal tetrachords with a major wholetone between them, in [[22edo]] tuning.]]


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One may also note that in [[just intonation]], a stack of three 6/5's is flat of the classical minor seventh [[9/5]] by [[25/24]], and a stack of two 4/3's is the Pythagorean minor seventh [[16/9]], which is flat of 9/5 by [[81/80]]. Thus, it can be determined that porcupine equates the syntonic comma [[81/80]] with the 5-limit chromatic semitone [[25/24]], which simplifies the 5-limit to a rank-2 structure in a simple way distinct from temperaments that reduce it to a strong extension of [[pythagorean]] (such as [[meantone]] and [[schismic]]).  
One may also note that in [[just intonation]], a stack of three 6/5's is flat of the classical minor seventh [[9/5]] by [[25/24]], and a stack of two 4/3's is the Pythagorean minor seventh [[16/9]], which is flat of 9/5 by [[81/80]]. Thus, it can be determined that porcupine equates the syntonic comma [[81/80]] with the 5-limit chromatic semitone [[25/24]], which simplifies the 5-limit to a rank-2 structure in a simple way distinct from temperaments that reduce it to a strong extension of [[pythagorean]] (such as [[meantone]] and [[schismic]]).  


Porcupine can be thought of as a [[2.3.5.11 subgroup|2.3.5.11-subgroup]] temperament (sometimes called '''porkypine''') without much additional damage compared to the 5-limit; the generator here represents not only 10/9, but also [[11/10]] and [[12/11]] (equivalently, [[55/54]], [[100/99]], and [[121/120]] are tempered out), with the consequence that the [[11/9]] interval, usually considered a neutral third, is in porcupine identical to the [[6/5]] minor third, due to the extreme flatness of 10/9. This also means that the [[27/20]] acute fourth of the JI diatonic scale is equivalent to [[11/8]] (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone), found at -4 generators (tuned to about 540–560 cents). This is because as the syntonic comma has been expanded, sharpening a fourth by a comma now leads to a significantly sharp interval close to the 11th harmonic. Porcupine is one of the most efficient temperaments in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup at a certain standard of accuracy.
Porcupine can be thought of as a [[2.3.5.11 subgroup|2.3.5.11-subgroup]] temperament (sometimes called ''porkypine'') without much additional damage compared to the 5-limit; the generator here represents not only 10/9, but also [[11/10]] and [[12/11]] (equivalently, [[55/54]], [[100/99]], and [[121/120]] are tempered out), with the consequence that the [[11/9]] interval, usually considered a neutral third, is in porcupine identical to the [[6/5]] minor third, due to the extreme flatness of 10/9. This also means that the [[27/20]] acute fourth of the JI diatonic scale is equivalent to [[11/8]] (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone), found at -4 generators (tuned to about 540–560 cents). This is because as the syntonic comma has been expanded, sharpening a fourth by a comma now leads to a significantly sharp interval close to the 11th harmonic. Porcupine is one of the most efficient temperaments in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup at a certain standard of accuracy.


It is also very easy to extend porcupine to prime 7, because the 16/9, found at +6 generators (tuned to about 960–990 cents), has already been flattened to merge it with (6/5)<sup>3</sup>, and therefore can be equated to [[7/4]]. This makes porcupine a weak extension of [[archy]], splitting its generator into three parts; its Pythagorean major third is mapped to [[9/7]], and its fifth is tuned sharp, ranging from around 705–720 cents, with the best tunings around 711–712 cents, which roughly splits the damage on 7/4 and 9/7.
It is also very easy to extend porcupine to prime 7, because the 16/9, found at +6 generators (tuned to about 960–990 cents), has already been flattened to merge it with (6/5)<sup>3</sup>, and therefore can be equated to [[7/4]]. This makes porcupine a weak extension of [[archy]], splitting its generator into three parts; its Pythagorean major third is mapped to [[9/7]], and its fifth is tuned sharp, ranging from around 705–720 cents, with the best tunings around 711–712 cents, which roughly splits the damage on 7/4 and 9/7.