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== Temperaments == | == Temperaments == | ||
By tempering it out, the '''jacobin temperament''' is defined. Interestingly, [[1789edo]] is an edo that [[support]]s the jacobin temperament. You may find a list of good JI-approximating edos that support this temperament below. Although 1789edo has a unique position due to its number of steps being a hallmark year of the French Revolution, it is more rational to use the other edos for this temperament. | By tempering it out, the '''jacobin temperament''' is defined. Interestingly, [[1789edo]] is an edo that [[support]]s the jacobin temperament. You may find a list of good JI-approximating edos that support this temperament below. Although 1789edo has a unique position due to its number of steps being a hallmark year of the French Revolution, it is more rational to use the other edos for this temperament. Miscellaneous temperaments tempering out this comma are collected in [[The Jacobins]]. | ||
The 17-limit factorization shows us a natural path of extension, also given below. | The 17-limit factorization shows us a natural path of extension, also given below. | ||
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[[Mapping]]: <br> | [[Mapping]]: <br> | ||
[ | {| class="right-all" | ||
|- | |||
| [⟨ || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || -9 || ], | |||
|- | |||
| ⟨ || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || ], | |||
|- | |||
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 1 || ], | |||
|- | |||
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || ], | |||
|- | |||
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 3 || ]] | |||
|} | |||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7, ~11 | : mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7, ~11 | ||
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Mapping: <br> | Mapping: <br> | ||
[ | {| class="right-all" | ||
|- | |||
| [⟨ || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || -9 || 6 || ], | |||
|- | |||
| ⟨ || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 2 || ], | |||
|- | |||
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 2 || ], | |||
|- | |||
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 0 || 0 || -1 || ], | |||
|- | |||
| ⟨ || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 3 || -2 || ]] | |||
|} | |||
Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 15g, 22, 37g, 39dfg, 41g, 50, 63g, 72, 111, 152f, 159, 183, 239f, 248, 270, 311, 422, 494, 581, 742, 764, 814, 1075, 1236, 1395, 1506, 2000, 2581, 2814, 2901, 3323, 3395, 8296e, 11691e, 16322ee, 17086cdeeg, 21223cdeefg }} | Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 15g, 22, 37g, 39dfg, 41g, 50, 63g, 72, 111, 152f, 159, 183, 239f, 248, 270, 311, 422, 494, 581, 742, 764, 814, 1075, 1236, 1395, 1506, 2000, 2581, 2814, 2901, 3323, 3395, 8296e, 11691e, 16322ee, 17086cdeeg, 21223cdeefg }} | ||
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[[Category:Jacobin]] | [[Category:Jacobin]] | ||
[[Category:Commas with unknown etymology]] | |||
{{todo|add etymology|comment=I know it’s something to do with the French Revolution, but what, exactly? Spell it all out please, why exactly does the name “jacobin” uniquely fit this particular comma?}} |
Latest revision as of 03:34, 4 November 2024
Interval information |
reduced
6656/6655, the jacobin comma, apparently named by Gene Ward Smith in 2014, is a 13-limit (also 2.5.11.13 subgroup) superparticular interval of about 0.26 ¢. It is the difference between a stack of three 11/8 superfourths and one 13/10 naiadic plus an octave. In terms of commas, it is the difference between 364/363 and 385/384, between 2080/2079 and 3025/3024 as well as between 4096/4095 and 10648/10647. In the 17-limit, it factors neatly into (12376/12375)(14400/14399).
Temperaments
By tempering it out, the jacobin temperament is defined. Interestingly, 1789edo is an edo that supports the jacobin temperament. You may find a list of good JI-approximating edos that support this temperament below. Although 1789edo has a unique position due to its number of steps being a hallmark year of the French Revolution, it is more rational to use the other edos for this temperament. Miscellaneous temperaments tempering out this comma are collected in The Jacobins.
The 17-limit factorization shows us a natural path of extension, also given below.
Jacobin
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 6656/6655
[⟨ | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -9 | ], |
⟨ | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ], |
⟨ | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | ], |
⟨ | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | ], |
⟨ | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | ]] |
- mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~5, ~7, ~11
Optimal ET sequence: 15, 22, 26, 31f, 37, 39df, 41, 46, 63, 72, 87, 111, 152f, 183, 198, 224, 270, 494, 764, 1012, 1084, 1236, 1506, 2814, 2901, 3125, 3395, 8026e, 8296e, 11421e, 11691e, 12927e, 13421e, 16322ee, 16816ee
Septendecimal jacobin
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 6656/6655, 12376/12375
Mapping:
[⟨ | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -9 | 6 | ], |
⟨ | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | ], |
⟨ | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | ], |
⟨ | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | -1 | ], |
⟨ | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | -2 | ]] |
Optimal ET sequence: 15g, 22, 37g, 39dfg, 41g, 50, 63g, 72, 111, 152f, 159, 183, 239f, 248, 270, 311, 422, 494, 581, 742, 764, 814, 1075, 1236, 1395, 1506, 2000, 2581, 2814, 2901, 3323, 3395, 8296e, 11691e, 16322ee, 17086cdeeg, 21223cdeefg