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In order to access the excellent consonances actually available, one must take a considerably "non-common-practice" approach, meaning to avoid the usual closed-voice "root-3rd-5th" type of chord and instead use chords which are either more compressed or more stretched out. 18edo may be treated as a temperament of the 17-limit [[k*N_subgroups|4*18 subgroup]] [[just intonation subgroup]] 2.9.75.21.55.39.51. On this subgroup it tempers out exactly the same commas as [[72edo]] does on the full [[17-limit]], and gives precisely the same tunings. The subgroup can be put into a single chord, for example 32:36:39:42:51:55:64:75 (in terms of 18edo, 0-3-5-7-12-14-18-22), and transpositions and inversions of this chord or its subchords provide plenty of harmonic resources. 18edo also approximates 12:13:14:17:23:27:29 quite well, with the least maximum relative error out of any edos ≤ 100 (the worst-approximated interval is [[23/13]], with relative error 18.36%). Hence it can be viewed as an "/3 temperament" (/3 used in the [[primodality]] sense), specifically in the 2.9.13/12.7/6.17/12.23/12.29/24 subgroup. As for more simple subgroups, 18edo can be treated as a 2.9.5.11 subgroup temperament. | In order to access the excellent consonances actually available, one must take a considerably "non-common-practice" approach, meaning to avoid the usual closed-voice "root-3rd-5th" type of chord and instead use chords which are either more compressed or more stretched out. 18edo may be treated as a temperament of the 17-limit [[k*N_subgroups|4*18 subgroup]] [[just intonation subgroup]] 2.9.75.21.55.39.51. On this subgroup it tempers out exactly the same commas as [[72edo]] does on the full [[17-limit]], and gives precisely the same tunings. The subgroup can be put into a single chord, for example 32:36:39:42:51:55:64:75 (in terms of 18edo, 0-3-5-7-12-14-18-22), and transpositions and inversions of this chord or its subchords provide plenty of harmonic resources. 18edo also approximates 12:13:14:17:23:27:29 quite well, with the least maximum relative error out of any edos ≤ 100 (the worst-approximated interval is [[23/13]], with relative error 18.36%). Hence it can be viewed as an "/3 temperament" (/3 used in the [[primodality]] sense), specifically in the 2.9.13/12.7/6.17/12.23/12.29/24 subgroup. As for more simple subgroups, 18edo can be treated as a 2.9.5.11 subgroup temperament. | ||
However, less accurate approximations can be used, and 18edo can be treated as a 7-limit (with 3s) exotemperament with the mapping {{val| 18 29 42 51 }}. This maps 3/2 to 733. | However, less accurate approximations can be used, and 18edo can be treated as a 7-limit (with 3s) exotemperament with the mapping {{val| 18 29 42 51 }}. This maps 3/2 to 733.33{{c}}, 5/4 to 400{{c}} and 7/4 to 1000{{c}}; as a result, 28/27 is tempered out, and unintuitive things happen: 9/8 and 7/6 are both mapped to 266.67{{c}}, while 8/7 gets mapped below both of them to 200{{c}}, making for a rather disordered [[9-odd-limit]] [[tonality diamond]], although this may be serviceable for the more exotemperamental music. This 7-limit mapping [[support]]s 7-limit [[sixix]], and thus is strongly associated with 18edo's [[4L 3s]] [[mos]]. | ||
18edo contains sub-edos [[2edo|2]], [[3edo|3]], [[6edo|6]], and [[9edo|9]], and itself is half of [[36edo]] and one-fourth of 72edo. It bears some similarities to [[13edo]] (with its very flat 4ths and nice subminor 3rds), [[11edo]] (with its very sharp minor 3rds, two of which span a very flat 5th), [[16edo]] (with its sharp 4ths and flat 5ths), and [[17edo]] and [[19edo]] (with its narrow semitone, three of which comprise a whole-tone). It is an excellent tuning for those seeking a forceful deviation from the common practice. | 18edo contains sub-edos [[2edo|2]], [[3edo|3]], [[6edo|6]], and [[9edo|9]], and itself is half of [[36edo]] and one-fourth of 72edo. It bears some similarities to [[13edo]] (with its very flat 4ths and nice subminor 3rds), [[11edo]] (with its very sharp minor 3rds, two of which span a very flat 5th), [[16edo]] (with its sharp 4ths and flat 5ths), and [[17edo]] and [[19edo]] (with its narrow semitone, three of which comprise a whole-tone). It is an excellent tuning for those seeking a forceful deviation from the common practice. | ||
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{{Harmonics in equal|18}} | {{Harmonics in equal|18}} | ||
== Intervals == | |||
[[File:18-ED2-JI-approximations-2.png|alt=18-ED2-JI-approximations-2.png|18-ED2-JI-approximations-2.png|thumb]] | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2" | |||
! Degree | |||
! Cents | |||
! Nearest Ratio | |||
! Error | |||
! 17-Limit Ratios <ref>based on the above description of 18-EDO as a 2.9.75.21.55.39.51 subgroup temperament</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| 0 | |||
| 0.000 | |||
| 1/1 | |||
| 0 | |||
| 1/1 | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 66.667 | |||
| 27/26 | |||
| +1.329 | |||
| 26/25, 25/24 | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 133.333 | |||
| 27/25 | |||
| +0.096 | |||
| 55/51, 14/13 | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 200.000 | |||
| 9/8 | |||
| -3.910 | |||
| 9/8 | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 266.667 | |||
| 7/6 | |||
| -0.204 | |||
| 75/64 | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 333.333 | |||
| 17/14 or 40/33 | |||
| -2.796 +0.293 | |||
| 39/32 | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 400.000 | |||
| 5/4 or 44/35 | |||
| +13.686 +3.822 | |||
| 64/55 | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 466.667 | |||
| 21/16 | |||
| -4.114 | |||
| 21/16 | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 533.333 | |||
| 15/11 | |||
| -3.617 | |||
| 34/25 | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 600.000 | |||
| 17/12 or 24/17 | |||
| -3.000 +3.000 | |||
| 17/12 | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 666.667 | |||
| 22/15 | |||
| +3.617 | |||
| 25/17 | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 733.333 | |||
| 32/21 | |||
| +4.114 | |||
| 32/21 | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 800.000 | |||
| 8/5 or 35/22 | |||
| -13.686 -3.822 | |||
| 51/32 | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 866.667 | |||
| 28/17 or 33/20 | |||
| +2.796 -0.293 | |||
| 64/39 | |||
|- | |||
| 14 | |||
| 933.333 | |||
| 12/7 | |||
| +0.204 | |||
| 55/32 | |||
|- | |||
| 15 | |||
| 1000.000 | |||
| 16/9 | |||
| +3.910 | |||
| 16/9 | |||
|- | |||
| 16 | |||
| 1066.667 | |||
| 50/27 | |||
| -0.096 | |||
| 13/7 | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| 1133.333 | |||
| 52/27 | |||
| -1.329 | |||
| 25/13 | |||
|- | |||
| 18 | |||
| 1200.000 | |||
| 2/1 | |||
| 0 | |||
| 2/1** | |||
|} | |||
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{{Clear}} | |||
== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
=== Ups and downs notation === | === Ups and downs notation === | ||
18edo can be notated with [[ups and downs]]. The notational 5th is the 2nd-best approximation of 3/2, 10\18. This is only | 18edo can be notated with [[ups and downs]]. The notational 5th is the 2nd-best approximation of 3/2, 10\18. This is only 4{{c}} worse that the best approximation, which becomes the up-fifth. | ||
{{Mavila}} | {{Mavila}} | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2" | {| class="wikitable center-all right-2" | ||
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{{Sagittal chart}} | {{Sagittal chart}} | ||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
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18edo is an ideal scale for the first-time refretter, because you can retain all the even-number frets from 12-tET--essentially 1/3 of your work is done for you! | 18edo is an ideal scale for the first-time refretter, because you can retain all the even-number frets from 12-tET--essentially 1/3 of your work is done for you! | ||
The 8-note oneirotonic scale maps very simply to a 6-string guitar tuned in "reverse-standard" tuning (tune using four 466. | The 8-note oneirotonic scale maps very simply to a 6-string guitar tuned in "reverse-standard" tuning (tune using four 466.667{{c}} intervals, with one 533.333{{c}} interval between the 2nd and 3rd strings), making for a softer learning-curve than EDOs like 14, 16, or 21 (all of which are most evenly open-tuned using a series of sharpened 4ths and a minor or neutral 3rd, and whose scales thus often require position-shifting and/or larger stretches of the hand). | ||
=== Keyboards === | === Keyboards === | ||
[[Julián Carrillo]] built at least one third-tone piano in 18edo. | |||
[[Lumatone mapping for 18edo|Lumatone mappings for 18edo]] are available. | [[Lumatone mapping for 18edo|Lumatone mappings for 18edo]] are available. | ||
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=== 20th century === | === 20th century === | ||
; [[Ivan Wyschnegradsky]] | ; [[Ivan Wyschnegradsky]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbPPYOygNJc | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbPPYOygNJc ''Prélude et Etude'', Op. 48], for third-tone piano of [[Julián Carrillo]] (1966) | ||
=== 21st century === | === 21st century === | ||
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; [[Beheld]] | ; [[Beheld]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nog2LROg8Ss Overstrung vibe] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nog2LROg8Ss ''Overstrung vibe''] (2022) | ||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | ; [[Bryan Deister]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-oi5eJA65Zc ''Waltz in 18edo''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-oi5eJA65Zc ''Waltz in 18edo''] (2025) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3FypUx_iIk ''Lament in 18edo''] (2025) | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hNmse4IUWL0 ''18edo improv''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hNmse4IUWL0 ''18edo improv''] (2025) | ||
; [[Francium]] | ; [[Francium]] | ||
* "excucumber" from ''The Decatonic Album'' (2024) – [https://open.spotify.com/track/2uSQv7MbMOKMLue2FMVU9y Spotify] | [https://francium223.bandcamp.com/track/excucumber Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcOsIrQEsg4 YouTube] | * "excucumber", from ''The Decatonic Album'' (2024) – [https://open.spotify.com/track/2uSQv7MbMOKMLue2FMVU9y Spotify] | [https://francium223.bandcamp.com/track/excucumber Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcOsIrQEsg4 YouTube] | ||
; [[groundfault]] | |||
* "Life and Limb", from ''Souvenirs of the Affliction'' (2025) – [https://groundfco.bandcamp.com/track/life-and-limb-18edo-2 Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrjuGmmodn0&t=1751 YouTube (29:11–33:47)] | |||
; [[Aaron Andrew Hunt]] | ; [[Aaron Andrew Hunt]] | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/uz1kt3k/fuga-a3-in-18et Fuga a3 in 18ET] | * [https://soundcloud.com/uz1kt3k/fuga-a3-in-18et ''Fuga a3 in 18ET'']{{dead link}} | ||
; [[Noah Jordan]] | ; [[Noah Jordan]] | ||
* ''The Moon'' ( | * ''The Moon'' (2016) – [https://noahdeanjordan.bandcamp.com/album/the-moon BandCamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TunyA3gwEJw YouTube] – 7-piece album recorded on the 1/3-tone piano of Sonido 13 / Julian Carrillo | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O36ZQyq6oR8 | * ''There and Back Again'' (2025) – [https://noahdeanjordan.bandcamp.com/album/there-and-back-again Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O36ZQyq6oR8 YouTube] – 3-piece album recorded on the 1/3-tone piano of Sonido 13 / Julian Carrillo | ||
; [[Mandrake]] | ; [[Mandrake]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1uz0ok4-Zs Such And Flowers] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1uz0ok4-Zs ''Such And Flowers''] (2022) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AquW_cqUQc That Kinda Lo-Fi Feel] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AquW_cqUQc ''That Kinda Lo-Fi Feel''] (2022) | ||
; [[Leo Matarazzo]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2vrqyE0ZX4 ''Eris''] (2026) | |||
; [[Claudi Meneghin]] | ; [[Claudi Meneghin]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUTHZNzBwUo Air Triste] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUTHZNzBwUo ''Air Triste''] (2018) | ||
; [[Herman Miller]] | ; [[Herman Miller]] | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/morphosyntax-1/revealing-the-path Revealing the Path] (2018) | * [https://soundcloud.com/morphosyntax-1/revealing-the-path ''Revealing the Path''] (2018) | ||
; [[Mundoworld]] | ; [[Mundoworld]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIaROmh7wD0 I Am the Monster I Fear] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIaROmh7wD0 ''I Am the Monster I Fear''] (2023) | ||
; [[No Clue Music]] | ; [[No Clue Music]] | ||
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; [[norokusi]] | ; [[norokusi]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEvT2oyWEuo 3 Bagatelles] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEvT2oyWEuo ''3 Bagatelles''] (2021) | ||
; [[NullPointerException Music]] | ; [[NullPointerException Music]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNgI6oRYNHA ''Three Worlds Order''] (2020) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNgI6oRYNHA ''Three Worlds Order''] (2020) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnYxYuukgrM ''Edolian | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnYxYuukgrM "Confusion"], from [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg1YtcJbLxnwTJkG4m0BWZWxIHj7ScdNn ''Edolian''] (2020) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k4rNjyaZsE ''Purgatory''] (2021) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k4rNjyaZsE ''Purgatory''] (2021) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7AtOuX1NAE ''The Hydrogen Atom''] (2023) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7AtOuX1NAE ''The Hydrogen Atom''] (2023) | ||
; [[Carlo Serafini]] | ; [[Carlo Serafini]] | ||
* [http://www.seraph.it/ | * ''Do Androids Dream Of 18ED2?'' (2015) – [http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/fb0306486b51c270607f90a0c795d531-202.html blog] | [http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/DoAndroidsDreamof18ED2.mp3.mp3 play]{{dead link}} | ||
; [[TomPrice719]] | ; [[TomPrice719]] | ||
* [https://soundcloud.com/tomprice719/composition-of-june-2015 Composition of June 2015] | * [https://soundcloud.com/tomprice719/composition-of-june-2015 ''Composition of June 2015''] (2015) | ||
; [[Chris Vaisvil]] | ; [[Chris Vaisvil]] | ||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/18-ET/prelude-in-18et.mp3 | * ''Prelude in 18et'' (2009) – [https://www.chrisvaisvil.com/prelude-in-18et/ blog] | [http://micro.soonlabel.com/18-ET/prelude-in-18et.mp3 play] | ||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/18-ET/daily20110401-18c-flippertronics.mp3 Flippertronics] | * [http://micro.soonlabel.com/18-ET/daily20110401-18c-flippertronics.mp3 ''Flippertronics''] | ||
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20111008b_gerbils_at_the_wheel_of_government.mp3 Gerbils at the Wheel of Government] (in 9 and 18 edo simultaneously) | * [http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20111008b_gerbils_at_the_wheel_of_government.mp3 ''Gerbils at the Wheel of Government''] (in 9 and 18 edo simultaneously) | ||
; [[Julia Werntz]], [[Eric Moe]] & the [[Pandelis Karayorgis Trio]] | ; [[Julia Werntz]], [[Eric Moe]] & the [[Pandelis Karayorgis Trio]] | ||
* | * [https://driffrecords.bandcamp.com/album/climbing-to-sleep ''Climbing to Sleep''] (2025) – jazz album | ||
; [[Xeno*n*]] | ; [[Xeno*n*]] | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj_AISfnFnY Deranged Anger] | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj_AISfnFnY ''Deranged Anger''] (2021) | ||
; [[David Zaydullin]] | ; [[David Zaydullin]] | ||