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Septimal: Renamed temperament from "septimal" to "austinpowers" to avoid potential confusion with "septimal" the term for the 7-limit. Asked on Discord and Facebook first and commenters were all in favour. Note that if jamesbond is ever renamed in the future, then you are free to rename austinpowers along with it. I am not attached to the name :)
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a 7th-octave temperament can be described by temperament merging of edos whose greatest common divisor is 7. The most notable 7th-octave family is the [[whitewood family]] – tempering out [[2187/2048]] and associating 4\7 to [[3/2]].  
{{Infobox fractional-octave|7}}
A 7th-octave temperament can be described by temperament merging of edos whose greatest common divisor is 7. The most notable 7th-octave family is the [[whitewood family]] – tempering out [[2187/2048]] and associating 4\7 to [[3/2]].  


A comma that frequently appears in 7th-octave temps is [[akjaysma]], which sets [[105/64]] to be equal to 5\7.
A comma that frequently appears in 7th-octave temps is [[akjaysma]], which sets [[105/64]] to be equal to 5\7.


Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
* ''Septant →'' [[Schismatic family #Septant|Schismatic family]]
* ''Septant →'' [[Schismatic family#Septant|Schismatic family]]
* ''Brahmagupta →'' [[Ragismic microtemperaments #Brahmagupta|Ragismic microtemperaments]]
* ''Brahmagupta →'' [[Ragismic microtemperaments#Brahmagupta|Ragismic microtemperaments]]
* ''Absurdity'' ''→'' [[Syntonic-chromatic equivalence continuum #Absurdity|Syntonic chromatic equivalence continuum]]
* ''Absurdity'' ''→'' [[Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum#Absurdity|Syntonic–chromatic equivalence continuum]]


== Jamesbond ==
== Jamesbond ==
This temperament uses exactly the same 5-limit as 7et, but the harmonic 7 is mapped to an independent generator. It is so named because its [[wedgie]] starts with {{multival| 0 0 7 … }}.
This temperament uses exactly the same 5-limit as 7et, but the harmonic 7 is mapped to an independent generator. It is so named because its "[[wedgie]]" (a kind of mathematical object representing the temperament) starts with {{multival| 0 0 7 … }} (in fact, it is {{Multival|legend=| 0 0 7 0 11 16 }})


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 7 11 16 0 | 0 0 0 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 7 11 16 0 | 0 0 0 1 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 0 0 7 0 11 16 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~7/4 = 941.861
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~7/4 = 941.861
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[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 7 0 0 47 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -1 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 -1 }}]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 7 0 0 47 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -1 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 -1 }}]


Mapping generators: ~1157625/1048576, ~3, ~5
: Mapping generators: ~1157625/1048576, ~3, ~5


[[POTE generator]]s: ~3/2 = 701.965, ~5/4 = 386.330
[[POTE generator]]s: ~3/2 = 701.965, ~5/4 = 386.330
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=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


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Mapping: [{{val| 7 0 0 47 -168 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -1 10 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 -1 5 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 7 0 0 47 -168 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -1 10 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 -1 5 }}]


Mapping generators: ~29160/26411, ~3, ~5
: Mapping generators: ~29160/26411, ~3, ~5


POTE generators: ~3/2 = 701.968, ~5/4 = 386.332
POTE generators: ~3/2 = 701.968, ~5/4 = 386.332
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== Nitrogen ==
== Nitrogen ==
Described as 140 & 1407 temperament in the 7-limit, named after the 7th element for being period-7 and also because 140 and 1407 only contain numbers 7 and 14, atomic number and atomic weight of nitrogen respectively. On top of this connection to the number 7, it also reaches 7th harmonic 7 generators down.
Described as 140 & 1407 temperament in the 7-limit, named after the 7th element for being period-7 and also because 140 and 1407 only contain numbers 7 and 14, atomic number and atomic weight of nitrogen respectively. On top of this connection to the number 7, it also reaches 7th harmonic 7 generators down.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
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{{mapping|legend=1| 7 0 34 | 0 1 0 }}
{{mapping|legend=1| 7 0 34 | 0 1 0 }}


: mapping generators: ~32/29, ~3
: Mapping generators: ~32/29, ~3


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~32/29 = 1\7, ~3/2 = 701.955 (~24576/24389 = 16.239)
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~32/29 = 1\7, ~3/2 = 701.955 (~24576/24389 = 16.239)


[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|7, 77, 70, 147, 224, 84, 63, 301, 217, 371, 56, 161, 91, 378}}
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|7, 77, 70, 147, 224, 84, 63, 301, 217, 371, 56, 161, 91, 378}}
== Profanity ==
Profanity identifies [[11/9]] with 2\7.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.11
[[Comma list]]: 19487171/19131876
{{mapping|legend=1| 7 0 2 | 0 1 2 }}
: Mapping generators: ~1458/1331, ~3
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|7, 49, 56, 63, 70, 77, 133}}
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[[Category:7edo]]
[[Category:7edo]]
[[Category:Temperament collections]]

Latest revision as of 09:04, 10 July 2025

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

A 7th-octave temperament can be described by temperament merging of edos whose greatest common divisor is 7. The most notable 7th-octave family is the whitewood family – tempering out 2187/2048 and associating 4\7 to 3/2.

A comma that frequently appears in 7th-octave temps is akjaysma, which sets 105/64 to be equal to 5\7.

Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:

Jamesbond

This temperament uses exactly the same 5-limit as 7et, but the harmonic 7 is mapped to an independent generator. It is so named because its "wedgie" (a kind of mathematical object representing the temperament) starts with ⟨⟨ 0 0 7 … ]] (in fact, it is ⟨⟨ 0 0 7 0 11 16 ]])

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 25/24, 81/80

Mapping[7 11 16 0], 0 0 0 1]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~7/4 = 941.861

Optimal ET sequence7, 14c

Badness: 0.041714

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 25/24, 33/32, 45/44

Mapping: [7 11 16 0 24], 0 0 0 1 0]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~7/4 = 941.090

Optimal ET sequence7, 14c

Badness: 0.023524

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 25/24, 27/26, 33/32, 40/39

Mapping: [7 11 16 0 24 26], 0 0 0 1 0 0]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~7/4 = 949.236

Optimal ET sequence7, 14c

Badness: 0.023003

Austinpowers

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 25/24, 33/32, 45/44, 65/63

Mapping: [7 11 16 0 24 6], 0 0 0 1 0 1]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~7/4 = 952.555

Optimal ET sequence7, 14cf

Badness: 0.022569

Akjaysmic (rank-3)

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: [47 -7 -7 -7

Mapping: [7 0 0 47], 0 1 0 -1], 0 0 1 -1]]

Mapping generators: ~1157625/1048576, ~3, ~5

POTE generators: ~3/2 = 701.965, ~5/4 = 386.330

Optimal ET sequence140, 224, 301, 441, 665, 742, 966, 1106, 1407, 1547, 1848, 2289, 2513, 2954, 3395, 4802

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 184549376/184528125, 199297406/199290375

Mapping: [7 0 0 47 -168], 0 1 0 -1 10], 0 0 1 -1 5]]

Mapping generators: ~29160/26411, ~3, ~5

POTE generators: ~3/2 = 701.968, ~5/4 = 386.332

Optimal ET sequence301, 364, 441, 742, 805, 1043, 1106, 1407, 1547, 1848, 2289, 2653, 2954, 3395, 4501, 5243, 6349, 8197

Nitrogen

Described as 140 & 1407 temperament in the 7-limit, named after the 7th element for being period-7 and also because 140 and 1407 only contain numbers 7 and 14, atomic number and atomic weight of nitrogen respectively. On top of this connection to the number 7, it also reaches 7th harmonic 7 generators down.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 3955078125/3954653486, 140737488355328/140710042265625

Mapping: [7 10 17 20], 0 22 -15 -7]]

Mapping generators: ~1157625/1048576, ~1029/1024

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~1157625/1048576 = 1\7, ~1029/1024 = 8.531

Optimal ET sequence140, 1407, 1547, ...

Jackpot

Jackpot identifies 29/16 with 6\7.

Subgroup: 2.3.29

Comma list: 17249876309/17179869184

Mapping[7 0 34], 0 1 0]]

Mapping generators: ~32/29, ~3

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~32/29 = 1\7, ~3/2 = 701.955 (~24576/24389 = 16.239)

Supporting ETs: 7, 77, 70, 147, 224, 84, 63, 301, 217, 371, 56, 161, 91, 378

Profanity

Profanity identifies 11/9 with 2\7.

Subgroup: 2.3.11

Comma list: 19487171/19131876

Mapping[7 0 2], 0 1 2]]

Mapping generators: ~1458/1331, ~3

Supporting ETs: 7, 49, 56, 63, 70, 77, 133


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