User:KingHyperio/EDO impressions: Difference between revisions

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[[4edo]] - diminished seven chord great

[[5edo]] - Actually interesting, simple and can be used as a rough approximation of Slendro. Better used or approximated as a subset of a larger ~~EDO~~ though.

[[5edo]] - Actually interesting, simple and can be used as a rough approximation of Slendro. Probably the only decent EDO where you can play any combination of notes with little dissonance. Better used or approximated as a subset of a larger system though.

[[6edo]] - Great 2.9.5.7.11 system in isolation, really lame if you're just used to 12 though.

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[[17edo]] - In my opinion 17 is the best melodic EDO out there. Its edostep is the best possible for direction imo, and it has a neutral second and slightly wide whole tone that both work well for melodies. Where it shines is its scale selection, with Neutral[7], Superpyth[7], Squares[8], Machine[6], and Bleu[9] all making great use of these steps. Speaking of Neutral and Superpyth, it feels like the first real one of either, and it supports neutral scales such as Rast and Bayati with some degree of accuracy. Its harmony is good, made up mainly of 6:7:8:9, 9/8/7/6, 6:7:9:11, and S7 and s7 chords, which gives a good degree of versatility. There also exist great well temperaments for it, unlike many larger systems, which can pack a hell of a lot of harmonic content into a small package, while keeping its great melodic properties. If we as a culture had to fully switch over to a 17-WT, I wouldn't be opposed at all.

[[18edo]] - maybe i just haven't found any good music or theory for it yet but ~~i don't like it~~

[[18edo]] - maybe i just haven't found any good music or theory for it yet but not a fan

[[19edo]] - It's the new best meantone, with solid 7-limit harmony that's represented in Godzilla, with Godzilla[9] being a great scale to use, and with Magic, Keemun, and Negri all being great temperaments that add variety to what's usually thought of as just a better meantone. It's user friendly for anybody used to 12, and can be a great place to start experimenting with microtonality, as well as including a lot of interesting content.

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[[21edo]] - 7edo subset and oneirotonic, very little else

[[22edo]] - It's as good as you've heard, ~~it's~~ the first really truly 11-limit EDO, with solid harmonic seventh chords, an accurate superpyth, and enough notes to vaguely approximate shrutis. Its main strength in my opinion is how efficiently it represents 4:5:6:7:9:11 subset chords in its MOSes, with a 4:5:6:9:11 in Porcupine[7], 2 4:5:6:7:9s in Pajara[10], 4 4:6:7:9:11s in Superpyth[12], and many more subsets in scales of Antikythera, Machine, Orwell, and Magic. It can be fairly weak melodically, and it has no hemififth or hemifourth, but its harmonic strengths are definitely there, making it sort of the mathematician's tuning system.

[[22edo]] - It's as good as you've heard, as the first really truly 11-limit EDO, with solid harmonic seventh chords, an accurate superpyth, and enough notes to vaguely approximate shrutis. Its main strength in my opinion is how efficiently it represents 4:5:6:7:9:11 subset chords in its MOSes, with a 4:5:6:9:11 in Porcupine[7], 2 4:5:6:7:9s in Pajara[10], 4 4:6:7:9:11s in Superpyth[12], and many more subsets in scales of Antikythera, Machine, Orwell, and Magic. It can be fairly weak melodically, and it has no hemififth or hemifourth, but its harmonic strengths are definitely there, making it sort of the mathematician's tuning system.

[[23edo]] - highest edo to have no diatonic, 5edo subset, or 7edo subset, so it really has no good fifth, with a worse mavila than 16

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[[72edo]] - Excellent 11-limit and consistent to 17, really the furthest I could ever justify going, but I wouldn't bother.

[[171edo]] - 7-limit “JI” with a neutral skeleton.

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 [[4edo]] - diminished seven chord great
-[[5edo]] - Actually interesting, simple and can be used as a rough approximation of Slendro. Better used or approximated as a subset of a larger EDO though.
+[[5edo]] - Actually interesting, simple and can be used as a rough approximation of Slendro. Probably the only decent EDO where you can play any combination of notes with little dissonance. Better used or approximated as a subset of a larger system though.
 [[6edo]] - Great 2.9.5.7.11 system in isolation, really lame if you're just used to 12 though.
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 [[17edo]] - In my opinion 17 is the best melodic EDO out there. Its edostep is the best possible for direction imo, and it has a neutral second and slightly wide whole tone that both work well for melodies. Where it shines is its scale selection, with Neutral[7], Superpyth[7], Squares[8], Machine[6], and Bleu[9] all making great use of these steps. Speaking of Neutral and Superpyth, it feels like the first real one of either, and it supports neutral scales such as Rast and Bayati with some degree of accuracy. Its harmony is good, made up mainly of 6:7:8:9, 9/8/7/6, 6:7:9:11, and S7 and s7 chords, which gives a good degree of versatility. There also exist great well temperaments for it, unlike many larger systems, which can pack a hell of a lot of harmonic content into a small package, while keeping its great melodic properties. If we as a culture had to fully switch over to a 17-WT, I wouldn't be opposed at all.
-[[18edo]] - maybe i just haven't found any good music or theory for it yet but i don't like it
+[[18edo]] - maybe i just haven't found any good music or theory for it yet but not a fan
 [[19edo]] - It's the new best meantone, with solid 7-limit harmony that's represented in Godzilla, with Godzilla[9] being a great scale to use, and with Magic, Keemun, and Negri all being great temperaments that add variety to what's usually thought of as just a better meantone. It's user friendly for anybody used to 12, and can be a great place to start experimenting with microtonality, as well as including a lot of interesting content.
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 [[21edo]] - 7edo subset and oneirotonic, very little else
-[[22edo]] - It's as good as you've heard, it's the first really truly 11-limit EDO, with solid harmonic seventh chords, an accurate superpyth, and enough notes to vaguely approximate shrutis. Its main strength in my opinion is how efficiently it represents 4:5:6:7:9:11 subset chords in its MOSes, with a 4:5:6:9:11 in Porcupine[7], 2 4:5:6:7:9s in Pajara[10], 4 4:6:7:9:11s in Superpyth[12], and many more subsets in scales of Antikythera, Machine, Orwell, and Magic. It can be fairly weak melodically, and it has no hemififth or hemifourth, but its harmonic strengths are definitely there, making it sort of the mathematician's tuning system.
+[[22edo]] - It's as good as you've heard, as the first really truly 11-limit EDO, with solid harmonic seventh chords, an accurate superpyth, and enough notes to vaguely approximate shrutis. Its main strength in my opinion is how efficiently it represents 4:5:6:7:9:11 subset chords in its MOSes, with a 4:5:6:9:11 in Porcupine[7], 2 4:5:6:7:9s in Pajara[10], 4 4:6:7:9:11s in Superpyth[12], and many more subsets in scales of Antikythera, Machine, Orwell, and Magic. It can be fairly weak melodically, and it has no hemififth or hemifourth, but its harmonic strengths are definitely there, making it sort of the mathematician's tuning system.
 [[23edo]] - highest edo to have no diatonic, 5edo subset, or 7edo subset, so it really has no good fifth, with a worse mavila than 16
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 [[72edo]] - Excellent 11-limit and consistent to 17, really the furthest I could ever justify going, but I wouldn't bother.
+[[171edo]] - 7-limit “JI” with a neutral skeleton.
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