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In [[just intonation]], an interval may be classified as a major second if it is reasonably mapped to 1\7 and [[24edo|4\24]] (precisely one step of the diatonic scale and two steps of the chromatic scale). The use of 24edo's 4\24 as the mapping criteria here rather than [[12edo]]'s 2\12 better captures the characteristics of many intervals in the [[11-limit|11-]] and [[13-limit]]. | In [[just intonation]], an interval may be classified as a major second if it is reasonably mapped to 1\7 and [[24edo|4\24]] (precisely one step of the diatonic scale and two steps of the chromatic scale). The use of 24edo's 4\24 as the mapping criteria here rather than [[12edo]]'s 2\12 better captures the characteristics of many intervals in the [[11-limit|11-]] and [[13-limit]]. | ||
As a concrete [[interval region]], it is typically near 200 ¢ in size, distinct from the [[Semitone (interval region)|semitone]] of roughly 100 ¢ and the [[neutral second]] of roughly | As a concrete [[interval region]], it is typically near 200 ¢ in size, distinct from the [[Semitone (interval region)|semitone]] of roughly 100 ¢ and the [[neutral second]] of roughly 150 ¢. A rough tuning range for the major second is about 180 to 240 ¢ according to [[Margo Schulter]]'s theory of interval regions. | ||
This article covers intervals between 160 and 260 ¢. The outer range of this might be too extreme to call "major seconds", but this is done so that one can find what they're looking for easily. | This article covers intervals between 160 and 260 ¢. The outer range of this might be too extreme to call "major seconds", but this is done so that one can find what they're looking for easily. | ||
Revision as of 05:17, 2 March 2025
A major second (M2) in the diatonic scale is an interval that spans one scale step with the major (wider) quality. It is generated by stacking 2 fifths octave reduced, and depending on the specific tuning, it ranges from 171 to 240 ¢ (1\7 to 1\5). It can be considered the large step of the diatonic scale.
In just intonation, an interval may be classified as a major second if it is reasonably mapped to 1\7 and 4\24 (precisely one step of the diatonic scale and two steps of the chromatic scale). The use of 24edo's 4\24 as the mapping criteria here rather than 12edo's 2\12 better captures the characteristics of many intervals in the 11- and 13-limit.
As a concrete interval region, it is typically near 200 ¢ in size, distinct from the semitone of roughly 100 ¢ and the neutral second of roughly 150 ¢. A rough tuning range for the major second is about 180 to 240 ¢ according to Margo Schulter's theory of interval regions.
This article covers intervals between 160 and 260 ¢. The outer range of this might be too extreme to call "major seconds", but this is done so that one can find what they're looking for easily.
In just intonation
By prime limit
The Pythagorean (3-limit) major second is 9/8, which is 204 cents in size and corresponds to the MOS-based interval category of the diatonic major second. It is generated by stacking two just perfect fifths of 3/2. There is also a Pythagorean diminished third of 65536/59049, which is about 180 cents in size. While called a "third", it is within the range of major seconds.
Other major seconds exist in higher limits, however, for example:
- The 5-limit ptolemaic major second is a ratio of 10/9, however in 5-limit harmony it is used alongside 9/8. It is about 182 cents.
- The 7-limit (septimal) supermajor second is a ratio of 8/7, and is about 231 cents.
- The 11-limit (undecimal) submajor second is a ratio of 11/10, and is about 165 cents.
- The 13-limit (tridecimal) ultramajor second is a ratio of 15/13, and is about 248 cents, but it might be better analyzed as an inframinor third. Despite that, it is also here for completeness.
By delta
See Delta-N ratio.
| Delta-1 | Delta-2 | Delta-3 | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8/7 | 231 ¢ | 15/13 | 248 ¢ | 22/19 | 253 ¢ |
| 9/8 | 204 ¢ | 17/15 | 217 ¢ | 23/20 | 242 ¢ |
| 10/9 | 182 ¢ | 19/17 | 193 ¢ | 25/22 | 221 ¢ |
| 11/10 | 165 ¢ | 21/19 | 173 ¢ | 26/23 | 212 ¢ |
| 28/25 | 196 ¢ | ||||
| 29/26 | 189 ¢ | ||||
| 31/28 | 176 ¢ | ||||
| 32/29 | 170 ¢ | ||||
In EDOs
The following table lists the best tuning of 10/9, 9/8, and 8/7, as well as other major seconds if present, in various significant EDOs.
| EDO | 10/9 | 9/8 | 8/7 | Other major seconds |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 | 240c | |||
| 7 | 171c | |||
| 12 | 200c | |||
| 15 | 160c | 240c | ||
| 16 | * | 225c | ||
| 17 | 212c | |||
| 19 | 189c | 253c | ||
| 22 | 164c | 218c | ||
| 24 | 200c | 250c | ||
| 25 | 192c | 240c | ||
| 26 | 185c | 231c | ||
| 27 | 178c | 222c | ||
| 29 | 166c | 207c | 248c | |
| 31 | 194c | 232c | ||
| 34 | 176c | 212c | 247c | |
| 41 | 176c | 205c | 234c | |
| 53 | 181c | 204c | 226c | 249c ≈ 15/13 |
In regular temperaments
The three simplest major second ratios are 10/9, 9/8, and 8/7. The following notable temperaments are generated by them:
Temperaments generated by 8/7
- Slendric, where a stack of three 8/7s is equated to 3/2
| View • Talk • EditInterval classification | |
|---|---|
| Interval regions | |
| Unison and octave | Unison • Comma and diesis • Octave |
| Seconds | Minor second • Neutral second • Major second |
| Thirds | Minor third • Neutral third • Major third |
| Fourths and fifths | Perfect fourth • Superfourth • Tritone • Subfifth • Perfect fifth |
| Sixths | Minor sixth • Neutral sixth • Major sixth |
| Sevenths | Minor seventh • Neutral seventh • Major seventh |
| Interseptimal intervals | Interseptimal 2nd-3rd • Interseptimal 3rd-4th • Interseptimal 5th-6th • Interseptimal 6th-7th |
| Interval qualities | |
| Diatonic qualities | Diminished • Minor • Perfect • Major • Augmented |
| Tuning ranges | Neutral (interval quality) • Submajor and supraminor • Pental major and minor • Novamajor and novaminor • Neogothic major and minor • Supermajor and subminor • Ultramajor and inframinor |