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{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-3"
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|-
! Degrees
! #
! [[Cent]]s
! [[Cent]]s
! colspan="3" | [[Ups and downs notation]]
! colspan="3" | [[Ups and downs notation]]
|-
|-
| 0
| 0
| 0.000
| 0.0
| Perfect 1sn
| Perfect 1sn
| P1
| P1
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|-
| 1
| 1
| 23.529
| 23.5
| Up 1sn
| Up 1sn
| ^1
| ^1
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|-
| 2
| 2
| 47.059
| 47.1
| Downminor 2nd
| Downminor 2nd
| vm2
| vm2
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|-
| 3
| 3
| 70.588
| 70.6
| Minor 2nd
| Minor 2nd
| m2
| m2
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|-
| 4
| 4
| 94.118
| 94.1
| Upminor 2nd
| Upminor 2nd
| ^m2
| ^m2
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|-
| 5
| 5
| 117.647
| 117.6
| Downmid 2nd
| Downmid 2nd
| v~2
| v~2
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|-
| 6
| 6
| 141.176
| 141.2
| Mid 2nd
| Mid 2nd
| ~2
| ~2
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|-
| 7
| 7
| 164.706
| 164.7
| Upmid 2nd
| Upmid 2nd
| ^~2
| ^~2
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|-
| 8
| 8
| 188.235
| 188.2
| Downmajor 2nd
| Downmajor 2nd
| vM2
| vM2
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|-
| 9
| 9
| 211.765
| 211.8
| Major 2nd
| Major 2nd
| M2
| M2
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|-
| 10
| 10
| 235.294
| 235.3
| Upmajor 2nd
| Upmajor 2nd
| ^M2
| ^M2
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|-
| 11
| 11
| 258.824
| 258.8
| Downminor 3rd
| Downminor 3rd
| vm3
| vm3
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|-
| 12
| 12
| 282.353
| 282.4
| Minor 3rd
| Minor 3rd
| m3
| m3
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|-
| 13
| 13
| 305.882
| 305.9
| Upminor 3rd
| Upminor 3rd
| ^m3
| ^m3
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|-
| 14
| 14
| 329.412
| 329.4
| Downmid 3rd
| Downmid 3rd
| v~3
| v~3
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|-
| 15
| 15
| 352.941
| 352.9
| Mid 3rd
| Mid 3rd
| ~3
| ~3
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|-
| 16
| 16
| 376.471
| 376.5
| Upmid 3rd
| Upmid 3rd
| ^~3
| ^~3
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|-
| 17
| 17
| 400.000
| 400.0
| Downmajor 3rd
| Downmajor 3rd
| vM3
| vM3
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|-
| 18
| 18
| 423.529
| 423.5
| Major 3rd
| Major 3rd
| M3
| M3
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|-
| 19
| 19
| 447.509
| 447.1
| Upmajor 3rd
| Upmajor 3rd
| ^M3
| ^M3
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|-
| 20
| 20
| 470.588
| 470.6
| Down 4th
| Down 4th
| v4
| v4
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|-
| 21
| 21
| 494.118
| 494.1
| Perfect 4th
| Perfect 4th
| P4
| P4
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|-
| 22
| 22
| 517.647
| 517.6
| Up 4th
| Up 4th
| ^4
| ^4
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|-
| 23
| 23
| 541.176
| 541.2
| Downdim 5th
| Downdim 5th
| vd5
| vd5
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|-
| 24
| 24
| 564.706
| 564.7
| Dim 5th
| Dim 5th
| d5
| d5
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|-
| 25
| 25
| 588.235
| 588.2
| Updim 5th
| Updim 5th
| ^d5
| ^d5
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|-
| 26
| 26
| 611.765
| 611.8
| Downaug 4th
| Downaug 4th
| vA4
| vA4
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|-
| 27
| 27
| 635.294
| 635.3
| Aug 4th
| Aug 4th
| A4
| A4
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|-
| 28
| 28
| 658.824
| 658.8
| Upaug 4th
| Upaug 4th
| ^A4
| ^A4
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|-
| 29
| 29
| 682.353
| 682.4
| Down 5th
| Down 5th
| v5
| v5
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|-
| 30
| 30
| 705.882
| 705.9
| Perfect 5th
| Perfect 5th
| P5
| P5
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|-
| 31
| 31
| 729.412
| 729.4
| Up 5th
| Up 5th
| ^5
| ^5
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|-
| 32
| 32
| 752.941
| 752.9
| Downminor 6th
| Downminor 6th
| vm6
| vm6
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|-
| 33
| 33
| 776.471
| 776.5
| Minor 6th
| Minor 6th
| m6
| m6
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|-
| 34
| 34
| 800.000
| 800.0
| Upminor 6th
| Upminor 6th
| ^m6
| ^m6
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|-
| 35
| 35
| 823.529
| 823.5
| Downmid 6th
| Downmid 6th
| v~6
| v~6
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|-
| 36
| 36
| 847.059
| 847.1
| Mid 6th
| Mid 6th
| ~6
| ~6
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|-
| 37
| 37
| 870.588
| 870.6
| Upmid 6th
| Upmid 6th
| ^~6
| ^~6
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|-
| 38
| 38
| 894.118
| 894.1
| Downmajor 6th
| Downmajor 6th
| vM6
| vM6
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|-
| 39
| 39
| 917.647
| 917.6
| Major 6th
| Major 6th
| M6
| M6
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|-
| 40
| 40
| 941.176
| 941.2
| Upmajor 6th
| Upmajor 6th
| ^M6
| ^M6
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|-
| 41
| 41
| 964.706
| 964.7
| Downminor 7th
| Downminor 7th
| vm7
| vm7
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|-
| 42
| 42
| 988.235
| 988.2
| Minor 7th
| Minor 7th
| m7
| m7
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|-
| 43
| 43
| 1011.765
| 1011.8
| Upminor 7th
| Upminor 7th
| ^m7
| ^m7
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|-
| 44
| 44
| 1035.294
| 1035.3
| Downmid 7th
| Downmid 7th
| v~7
| v~7
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|-
| 45
| 45
| 1058.824
| 1058.8
| Mid 7th
| Mid 7th
| ~7
| ~7
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|-
| 46
| 46
| 1082.353
| 1082.4
| Upmid 7th
| Upmid 7th
| ^~7
| ^~7
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|-
| 47
| 47
| 1105.882
| 1105.9
| Downmajor 7th
| Downmajor 7th
| vM7
| vM7
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|-
| 48
| 48
| 1129.412
| 1129.4
| Major 7th
| Major 7th
| M7
| M7
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|-
| 49
| 49
| 1152.941
| 1152.9
| Upmajor 7th
| Upmajor 7th
| ^M7
| ^M7
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|-
| 50
| 50
| 1176.471
| 1176.5
| Down 8ve
| Down 8ve
| v8
| v8
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| 51
| 51
| 1200.000
| 1200.0
| Perfect 8ve
| Perfect 8ve
| P8
| P8

Revision as of 09:24, 24 January 2025

← 50edo 51edo 52edo →
Prime factorization 3 × 17
Step size 23.5294 ¢ 
Fifth 30\51 (705.882 ¢) (→ 10\17)
Semitones (A1:m2) 6:3 (141.2 ¢ : 70.59 ¢)
Consistency limit 3
Distinct consistency limit 3

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Theory

51 = 3 × 17, and 51edo shares its fifth with 17edo.

Using the patent val, 51et tempers out 250/243 in the 5-limit, 225/224 and 2401/2400 in the 7-limit, and 55/54 and 100/99 in the 11-limit. It is the optimal patent val for sonic, the rank-3 temperament tempering out 55/54, 100/99, and 250/243, and also for the rank-4 temperament tempering out 55/54. It provides an alternative tuning to 22edo for porcupine, with a nice fifth but a rather flat major third, and the optimal patent val for the 7- and 11-limit porky temperament, which is sonic plus 225/224. 51 contains an archeotonic 6L 1s scale based on repetitions of 8\51, creating a scale with a whole-tone-like drive towards the tonic through the 17edo semitone at the top.

Alternatively, using the 51c val 51 81 119 143], the 5/4 is mapped to 1\3 (400 cents), supporting augmented. In the 7-limit it tempers out 245/243 and supports hemiaug and rodan. The 51cd val 51 81 119 144] takes the same 7/4 from 17edo, and supports augene.

51edo's step is the closest direct approximation to the Pythagorean comma by edo steps, though that comma itself is mapped to a different interval.

Odd harmonics

Approximation of prime harmonics in 51edo
Harmonic 2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29 31
Error Absolute (¢) +0.0 +3.9 -9.8 -4.1 -10.1 +6.5 -10.8 +8.4 +7.0 +5.7 +7.9
Relative (%) +0.0 +16.7 -41.8 -17.5 -43.1 +27.8 -46.1 +35.6 +29.8 +24.3 +33.6
Steps
(reduced)
51
(0)
81
(30)
118
(16)
143
(41)
176
(23)
189
(36)
208
(4)
217
(13)
231
(27)
248
(44)
253
(49)

Subsets and supersets

51edo contains 3edo and 17edo as subsets. A step of 51edo is exactly 12 skismas.

Intervals

# Cents Ups and downs notation
0 0.0 Perfect 1sn P1 D
1 23.5 Up 1sn ^1 ^D
2 47.1 Downminor 2nd vm2 vEb
3 70.6 Minor 2nd m2 Eb
4 94.1 Upminor 2nd ^m2 ^Eb
5 117.6 Downmid 2nd v~2 ^^Eb
6 141.2 Mid 2nd ~2 vvvE, ^^^Eb
7 164.7 Upmid 2nd ^~2 vvE
8 188.2 Downmajor 2nd vM2 vE
9 211.8 Major 2nd M2 E
10 235.3 Upmajor 2nd ^M2 ^E
11 258.8 Downminor 3rd vm3 vF
12 282.4 Minor 3rd m3 F
13 305.9 Upminor 3rd ^m3 ^F
14 329.4 Downmid 3rd v~3 ^^F
15 352.9 Mid 3rd ~3 ^^^F, vvvF#
16 376.5 Upmid 3rd ^~3 vvF#
17 400.0 Downmajor 3rd vM3 vF#
18 423.5 Major 3rd M3 F#
19 447.1 Upmajor 3rd ^M3 ^F#
20 470.6 Down 4th v4 vG
21 494.1 Perfect 4th P4 G
22 517.6 Up 4th ^4 ^G
23 541.2 Downdim 5th vd5 vAb
24 564.7 Dim 5th d5 Ab
25 588.2 Updim 5th ^d5 ^Ab
26 611.8 Downaug 4th vA4 vG#
27 635.3 Aug 4th A4 G#
28 658.8 Upaug 4th ^A4 ^G#
29 682.4 Down 5th v5 vA
30 705.9 Perfect 5th P5 A
31 729.4 Up 5th ^5 ^A
32 752.9 Downminor 6th vm6 vBb
33 776.5 Minor 6th m6 Bb
34 800.0 Upminor 6th ^m6 ^Bb
35 823.5 Downmid 6th v~6 ^^Bb
36 847.1 Mid 6th ~6 vvvB, ^^^Bb
37 870.6 Upmid 6th ^~6 vvB
38 894.1 Downmajor 6th vM6 vB
39 917.6 Major 6th M6 B
40 941.2 Upmajor 6th ^M6 ^B
41 964.7 Downminor 7th vm7 vC
42 988.2 Minor 7th m7 C
43 1011.8 Upminor 7th ^m7 ^C
44 1035.3 Downmid 7th v~7 ^^C
45 1058.8 Mid 7th ~7 ^^^C, vvvC#
46 1082.4 Upmid 7th ^~7 vvC#
47 1105.9 Downmajor 7th vM7 vC#
48 1129.4 Major 7th M7 C#
49 1152.9 Upmajor 7th ^M7 ^C#
50 1176.5 Down 8ve v8 vD
51 1200.0 Perfect 8ve P8 D

Notation

Ups and downs notation

In 51edo, a sharp raises by six steps, so a combination of quarter tone accidentals and arrow accidentals from Helmholtz–Ellis notation can be used to fill in the gaps.

Step offset 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Sharp symbol
Flat symbol

If double arrows are not desirable, then arrows can be attached to quarter-tone accidentals:

Step offset 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Sharp symbol
Flat symbol

Ivan Wyschnegradsky's notation

Since a sharp raises by six steps, Wyschnegradsky accidentals borrowed from 72edo can also be used:

Step offset 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Sharp symbol
Flat symbol

Sagittal notation

In the following diagrams, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's primary comma (the comma it exactly represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it approximately represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this edo.

Evo flavor

Sagittal notationPeriodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation64/6381/8027/26

Revo flavor

Sagittal notationPeriodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation64/6381/8027/26

Evo-SZ flavor

Sagittal notationPeriodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation64/6381/8027/26

Regular temperament properties

Subgroup Comma list Mapping Optimal
8ve stretch (¢)
Tuning error
Absolute (¢) Relative (%)
2.3.7 1029/1024, [17 -16 3 [51 81 143]] −0.339 1.63 6.92
2.3.5 128/125, [-13 17 -6 [51 81 119]] (51c) −2.789 2.41 10.3
2.3.5 250/243, 34171875/33554432 [51 81 118]] (51) +0.581 2.77 11.8

Rank-2 temperaments

Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator
Periods
per 8ve
Generator* Cents* Associated
ratio*
Temperament
1 5\51 117.6 15/14 Miracle (51e, out of tune) / oracle (51)
1 7\51 164.7 11/10 Porky (51)
1 10\51 235.3 8/7 Rodan (51cf…, out of tune) / aerodino (51ce)
1 5\51 541.2 15/11 Necromanteion (51ce)
3 19\51
(2\51)
447.1
(47.1)
9/7
(36/35)
Hemiaug (51ce)
3 21\51
(4\51)
494.1
(94.1)
4/3
(16/15)
Augmented (51c)

* Octave-reduced form, reduced to the first half-octave, and minimal form in parentheses if distinct

Scales

  • Porky[7], Palace: 7 7 7 9 7 7 7
  • UFO scale (inflected MOS of Teefs[19]): 2 2 4 1 2 2 2 4 2 5 2 4 4 2 2 1 4 2 2
  • Cosmic scale (subset of UFO scale): 21 9 4 9 8

Instruments

Lumatone
See Lumatone mapping for 51edo.

Music

Frédéric Gagné
James Mulvale (FASTFAST)
Ray Perlner
  • Fugue (2023) – for organ in 51edo Porcupine[7] ssssssL "Pandian"