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* ''[[Vishnean]]'', {126/125, 540225/524288} → [[Vishnuzmic family #Vishnean|Vishnuzmic family]]
* ''[[Vishnean]]'', {126/125, 540225/524288} → [[Vishnuzmic family #Vishnean|Vishnuzmic family]]
* ''[[Ditonic]]'', {126/125, 8751645/8388608} → [[Ditonmic family #Ditonic|Ditonmic family]]
* ''[[Ditonic]]'', {126/125, 8751645/8388608} → [[Ditonmic family #Ditonic|Ditonmic family]]
* ''[[Enneaplonic]]'', {126/125, 40353607/40310784} → [[Tritrizo clan #Enneaplonic|Tritrizo clan]]


Since (6/5)<sup>3</sup> = 126/125 × 12/7, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5-6/5-6/5-7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before [[12edo|12EDO]] established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of four stacked very flat minor thirds.  
Since (6/5)<sup>3</sup> = 126/125 × 12/7, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5-6/5-6/5-7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before [[12edo|12EDO]] established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of four stacked very flat minor thirds.  
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[[Minimax tuning]]:  
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
* 7- and [[9-odd-limit]]
* 7- and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~6/5 = {{monzo| 1/10 1/10 0 0}}
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 0 1 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 9/10 9/10 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 17/10 7/10 0 0 }}]
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 0 1 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 9/10 9/10 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 17/10 7/10 0 0 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 3
: [[Eigenmonzo]]s (unchanged intervals): 2, 3
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.144
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.144


Vals: {{Val list| 27e, 31, 58, 89 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 27e, 31, 58, 89 }}


Badness: 0.016842
Badness: 0.016842
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.276
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.276


Vals: {{Val list| 27e, 31, 58 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 27e, 31, 58 }}


Badness: 0.017125
Badness: 0.017125
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.381
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.381


Vals: {{Val list| 27e, 31f, 58f }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 27e, 31f, 58f }}


Badness: 0.027568
Badness: 0.027568
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 309.804
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 309.804


Vals: {{Val list| 27eff, 31 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 27eff, 31 }}


Badness: 0.029868
Badness: 0.029868
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 309.737
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 309.737


Vals: {{Val list| 27, 31 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 27, 31 }}


Badness: 0.033434
Badness: 0.033434
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.853
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.853


Vals: {{Val list| 4, 23bc, 27e }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 4, 23bc, 27e }}


Badness: 0.048687
Badness: 0.048687
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Algebraic generator: positive root of 4''x''<sup>3</sup> + 15''x''<sup>2</sup> - 21, or else Gontrand2, the smallest positive root of 4''x''<sup>7</sup> - 8''x''<sup>6</sup> + 5.
Algebraic generator: positive root of 4''x''<sup>3</sup> + 15''x''<sup>2</sup> - 21, or else Gontrand2, the smallest positive root of 4''x''<sup>7</sup> - 8''x''<sup>6</sup> + 5.


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 31, 46, 77, 262cdee, 339cdeee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 31, 46, 77, 262cdee, 339cdeee }}


Badness: 0.016687
Badness: 0.016687
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POTE generator: ~21/20 = 78.219
POTE generator: ~21/20 = 78.219


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 31f, 46 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 31f, 46 }}


Badness: 0.023461
Badness: 0.023461
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POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.709
POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.709


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 31, 77ff, 108eff, 139efff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 31, 77ff, 108eff, 139efff }}


Badness: 0.021328
Badness: 0.021328
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POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.958
POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.958


Vals: {{Val list| 15f, 31, 46, 77 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15f, 31, 46, 77 }}


Badness: 0.020665
Badness: 0.020665
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POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.839
POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.839


Vals: {{Val list| 16, 30, 46, 62, 108ef }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 16, 30, 46, 62, 108ef }}


Badness: 0.032749
Badness: 0.032749
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POTE generator: ~40/39 = 39.044
POTE generator: ~40/39 = 39.044


Vals: {{Val list| 30, 31, 61, 92f, 123f }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 30, 31, 61, 92f, 123f }}


Badness: 0.047059
Badness: 0.047059
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POTE generator: ~45/44 = 38.921
POTE generator: ~45/44 = 38.921


Vals: {{Val list| 31, 92e, 123, 154, 185 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 92e, 123, 154, 185 }}


Badness: 0.061275
Badness: 0.061275
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POTE generator: ~45/44 = 38.948
POTE generator: ~45/44 = 38.948


Vals: {{Val list| 31, 92e, 123, 154 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 92e, 123, 154 }}


Badness: 0.057919
Badness: 0.057919
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POTE generator: ~40/39 = 38.993
POTE generator: ~40/39 = 38.993


Vals: {{Val list| 31, 92ef, 123f }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 92ef, 123f }}


Badness: 0.057931
Badness: 0.057931
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POTE generator: ~16/11 = 657.923
POTE generator: ~16/11 = 657.923


Vals: {{Val list| 11b, 20b, 31 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 11b, 20b, 31 }}


Badness: 0.067291
Badness: 0.067291
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POTE generator: ~16/11 = 657.854
POTE generator: ~16/11 = 657.854


Vals: {{Val list| 11b, 20b, 31 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 11b, 20b, 31 }}


=== Marrakesh ===
=== Marrakesh ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


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POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.791
POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.791


Vals: {{Val list| 31, 73, 104c, 135c }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 73, 104c, 135c }}


Badness: 0.040539
Badness: 0.040539
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POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.756
POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.756


Vals: {{Val list| 31, 73, 104c, 135c, 239ccf }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 73, 104c, 135c, 239ccf }}


Badness: 0.040774
Badness: 0.040774
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POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.700
POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.700


Vals: {{Val list| 31, 104cff, 135cff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 31, 104cff, 135cff }}


Badness: 0.041395
Badness: 0.041395
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Algebraic generator: positive root of 15''x''<sup>2</sup> - 10''x'' - 7, or (5 + sqrt (130))/15, at 154.6652 cents. The recurrence converges very quickly.
Algebraic generator: positive root of 15''x''<sup>2</sup> - 10''x'' - 7, or (5 + sqrt (130))/15, at 154.6652 cents. The recurrence converges very quickly.


Vals: {{Val list| 8d, 23de, 31, 101, 132ce, 163ce, 194cee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 8d, 23de, 31, 101, 132ce, 163ce, 194cee }}


Badness: 0.025621
Badness: 0.025621
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POTE generator: ~11/10 = 154.478
POTE generator: ~11/10 = 154.478


Vals: {{Val list| 8d, 23de, 31, 70f, 101ff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 8d, 23de, 31, 70f, 101ff }}


Badness: 0.023323
Badness: 0.023323
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POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.620
POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.620


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58 }}


Badness: 0.033078
Badness: 0.033078
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POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.589
POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.589


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58 }}


Badness: 0.022838
Badness: 0.022838
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POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.509
POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.509


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58 }}


Badness: 0.022293
Badness: 0.022293
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POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.504
POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.504


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58h }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58h }}


Badness: 0.018938
Badness: 0.018938
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POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.522
POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.522


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58hi }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58hi }}


Badness: 0.016581
Badness: 0.016581
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POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.520
POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.520


Vals: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58hi }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 15, 43, 58hi }}


Badness: 0.013762
Badness: 0.013762
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POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.772
POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.772


Vals: {{Val list| 11cdee, 20cde, 31, 144cd, 175cd, 206bcde, 237bcde }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 11cdee, 20cde, 31, 144cd, 175cd, 206bcde, 237bcde }}


Badness: 0.042719
Badness: 0.042719
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POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.778
POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.778


Vals: {{Val list| 11cdeef, 20cdef, 31 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 11cdeef, 20cdef, 31 }}


Badness: 0.037849
Badness: 0.037849
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POTE generator: ~35/27 = 455.373
POTE generator: ~35/27 = 455.373


Vals: {{Val list| 50, 58, 108, 166ce, 224cee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 50, 58, 108, 166ce, 224cee }}


Badness: 0.041190
Badness: 0.041190
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POTE generator: ~35/27 = 455.347
POTE generator: ~35/27 = 455.347


Vals: {{Val list| 50, 58, 166cef, 224ceeff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 50, 58, 166cef, 224ceeff }}


Badness: 0.023877
Badness: 0.023877
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 312.601
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 312.601


Vals: {{Val list| 42, 46, 96d, 142d, 238dd }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 42, 46, 96d, 142d, 238dd }}


Badness: 0.044499
Badness: 0.044499
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 312.564
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 312.564


Vals: {{Val list| 42, 46, 96d, 238ddf }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 42, 46, 96d, 238ddf }}


Badness: 0.029693
Badness: 0.029693
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 222.898
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 222.898


Vals: {{Val list| 16, 27e, 43, 70e }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 16, 27e, 43, 70e }}


Badness: 0.043336
Badness: 0.043336
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POTE generator: ~8/7 = 222.961
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 222.961


Vals: {{Val list| 16, 27e, 43, 70e, 113cdee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 16, 27e, 43, 70e, 113cdee }}


Badness: 0.028920
Badness: 0.028920
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POTE generator: ~5/4 = 391.075
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 391.075


Vals: {{Val list| 43, 46, 89, 135c, 224c }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 43, 46, 89, 135c, 224c }}


Badness: 0.043438
Badness: 0.043438
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POTE generator: ~5/4 = 391.073
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 391.073


Vals: {{Val list| 43, 46, 89, 135cf, 224cf }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 43, 46, 89, 135cf, 224cf }}


Badness: 0.030666
Badness: 0.030666
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 311.587
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 311.587


Vals: {{Val list| 27e, 77, 104c, 181c }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 27e, 77, 104c, 181c }}


Badness: 0.056915
Badness: 0.056915
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 311.591
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 311.591


Vals: {{Val list| 27e, 77, 104c, 181c }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 27e, 77, 104c, 181c }}


Badness: 0.035582
Badness: 0.035582

Revision as of 10:28, 2 January 2022

This page discusses miscellaneous rank-2 temperaments tempering out 126/125, the starling comma or septimal semicomma.

Temperaments discussed in families and clans are:

Since (6/5)3 = 126/125 × 12/7, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the starling tetrad, the 6/5-6/5-6/5-7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12EDO established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of four stacked very flat minor thirds.

Myna

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Mynic.

In addition to 126/125, myna tempers out 1728/1715, the orwell comma, and 2401/2400, the breedsma. It can also be described as the 27&31 temperament. It has 6/5 as a generator, and 58EDO can be used as a tuning, with 89EDO being a better one, and fans of round amounts in cents may like 120EDO. It is also possible to tune myna with pure fifths by taking 61/10 as the generator. Myna extends naturally but with much increased complexity to the 11 and 13 limits.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 1728/1715

Mapping: [1 9 9 8], 0 -10 -9 -7]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~5/3

Wedgie⟨⟨ 10 9 7 -9 -17 -9 ]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.146

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0, [0 1 0 0, [9/10 9/10 0 0, [17/10 7/10 0 0]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 3

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.027044

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 243/242

Mapping: [1 9 9 8 22], 0 -10 -9 -7 -25]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.144

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.016842

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 196/195

Mapping: [1 9 9 8 22 0], 0 -10 -9 -7 -25 5]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.276

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.017125

Minah

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 78/77, 91/90, 126/125, 176/175

Mapping: [1 9 9 8 22 20], 0 -10 -9 -7 -25 -22]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.381

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.027568

Maneh

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 66/65, 105/104, 126/125, 540/539

Mapping: [1 9 9 8 22 23], 0 -10 -9 -7 -25 -26]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 309.804

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.029868

Myno

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 385/384

Mapping: [1 9 9 8 -1], 0 -10 -9 -7 6]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 309.737

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.033434

Coleto

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 56/55, 100/99, 1728/1715

Mapping: [1 9 9 8 2], 0 -10 -9 -7 2]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 310.853

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.048687

Valentine

Valentine tempers out 1029/1024 and 6144/6125 as well as 126/125, so it also fits under the heading of the gamelismic clan. It has a generator of 21/20, which can be stripped of its 2 and taken as 3×7/5. In this respect it resembles miracle, with a generator of 3×5/7, and casablanca, with a generator of 5×7/3. These three generators are the simplest in terms of the relationship of tetrads in the lattice of 7-limit tetrads. Valentine can also be described as the 31&46 temperament, and 77EDO, 108EDO or 185EDO make for excellent tunings, which also happen to be excellent tunings for starling temperament, the 126/125 planar temperament. Hence 7-limit valentine can be used whenever starling is wanted, with the extra tempering out of 1029/1024 having no discernible effect on tuning accuracy. Another tuning for valentine uses (3/2)1/9 as a generator, giving pure 3/2 fifths. Valentine extends naturally to the 11-limit as ⟨⟨ 9 5 -3 7 … ]], tempering out 121/120 and 441/440; 46EDO has a valentine generator 3\46 which is only 0.0117 cents sharp of the minimax generator, (11/7)1/10.

Valentine is very closely related to Carlos Alpha, the rank one nonoctave temperament of Wendy Carlos, as the generator chain of valentine is the same thing as Carlos Alpha. Indeed, the way Carlos uses Alpha in Beauty in the Beast suggests that she really intended Alpha to be the same thing as valentine, and that it is misdescribed as a rank one temperament. Carlos tells us that "[t]he melodic motions of Alpha are amazingly exotic and fresh, like you've never heard before", and since Alpha lives inside valentine this comment carries over and applies to it if you stick close melodically to generator steps, which is almost impossible not to do since the generator step is so small. MOS of 15, 16, 31 and 46 notes are available to explore these exotic and fresh melodies, or the less exotic ones you might cook up otherwise.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 1990656/1953125

Mapping: [1 1 2], 0 9 5]]

POTE generator: ~25/24 = 78.039

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.122765

7-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 2 3], 0 9 5 -3]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~21/20

POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.864

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0, [5/2 3/4 0 -3/4, [17/6 5/12 0 -5/12, [5/2 -1/4 0 1/4]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 7/6
[[1 0 0 0, [10/7 6/7 0 -3/7, [47/21 10/21 0 -5/21, [20/7 -2/7 0 1/7]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 9/7

Algebraic generator: smaller root of x2 - 89x + 92, or (89 - sqrt (7553))/2, at 77.8616 cents.

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.031056

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 121/120, 126/125, 176/175

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 3], 0 9 5 -3 7]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~21/20

POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.881

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0 0, [1 0 0 -9/10 9/10, [2 0 0 -1/2 1/2, [3 0 0 3/10 -3/10, [3 0 0 -7/10 7/10]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 11/7

Algebraic generator: positive root of 4x3 + 15x2 - 21, or else Gontrand2, the smallest positive root of 4x7 - 8x6 + 5.

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.016687

Dwynwen

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 91/90, 121/120, 126/125, 176/175

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 3 2], 0 9 5 -3 7 26]]

POTE generator: ~21/20 = 78.219

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.023461

Lupercalia

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 66/65, 105/104, 121/120, 126/125

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 3 3], 0 9 5 -3 7 11]]

POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.709

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.021328

Valentino

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 121/120, 126/125, 176/175, 196/195

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 3 5], 0 9 5 -3 7 -20]]

POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.958

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.020665

Semivalentine

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 121/120, 126/125, 169/168, 176/175

Mapping: [2 2 4 6 6 7], 0 9 5 -3 7 3]]

POTE generator: ~21/20 = 77.839

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.032749

Hemivalentine

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 121/120, 126/125, 176/175, 343/338

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 3 4], 0 18 10 -6 14 -9]]

POTE generator: ~40/39 = 39.044

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.047059

Hemivalentino

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 243/242, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 2], 0 18 10 -6 45]]

POTE generator: ~45/44 = 38.921

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.061275

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 243/242, 1029/1024

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 2 5], 0 18 10 -6 45 -40]]

POTE generator: ~45/44 = 38.948

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.057919

Hemivalentoid

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 243/242, 343/338

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 2 4], 0 18 10 -6 45 -9]]

POTE generator: ~40/39 = 38.993

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.057931

Casablanca

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Casablanca.

Aside from 126/125, casablanca tempers out the no-threes comma 823543/819200 and also 589824/588245, and may also be described as 31&73. 74\135 or 91\166 supply good tunings for the generator, and 20 and 31 note MOS are available.

It may not seem like casablanca has much to offer, but peering under the hood a bit harder suggests otherwise. For one thing, the 35/24 generator is particularly interesting; like 15/14 and 21/20, it represents an interval between one vertex of a hexany and the opposite vertex, which makes it particularly simple with regard to the cubic lattice of tetrads. For another, if we add 385/384 to the list of commas, 35/24 is identified with 16/11, and casablanca is revealed as an 11-limit temperament with a very low complexity for 11 and not too high a one for 7; we might compare 1, 4, 14, 19, the generator steps to 11, 7, 5 and 3 respectively, with 1, 4, 10, 18, the steps to 3, 5, 7 and 11 in 11-limit meantone.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 589824/588245

Mapping: [1 12 10 5], 0 -19 -14 -4]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 19 14 4 -22 -47 -30 ]]

POTE generator: ~35/24 = 657.818

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.101191

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2420/2401

Mapping: [1 12 10 5 4], 0 -19 -14 -4 -1]]

POTE generator: ~16/11 = 657.923

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.067291

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 385/384, 2420/2401

Mapping: [1 12 10 5 4 7], 0 -19 -14 -4 -1 -6]]

POTE generator: ~16/11 = 657.854

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Marrakesh

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 14641/14580

Mapping: [1 12 10 5 21], 0 -19 -14 -4 -32]]

POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.791

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.040539

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 14641/14580

Mapping: [1 12 10 5 21 -10], 0 -19 -14 -4 -32 25]]

POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.756

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.040774

Murakuc

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 1540/1521

Mapping: [1 12 10 5 21 7], 0 -19 -14 -4 -32 -6]]

POTE generator: ~22/15 = 657.700

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.041395

Nusecond

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Nusecond.

Nusecond tempers out 2430/2401 and 16875/16807 in addition to 126/125, and may be described as 31&70. It has a neutral second generator of 49/45, two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. 31EDO can be used as a tuning, or 132EDO with a val which is the sum of the patent vals for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. MOS of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note MOS might also be considered from the melodic point of view.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 2430/2401

Mapping: [1 3 4 5], 0 -11 -13 -17]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~49/45

Wedgie⟨⟨ 11 13 17 -5 -4 3 ]]

POTE generator: ~49/45 = 154.579

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0, [-5/13 0 11/13 0, [0 0 1 0, [-3/13 0 17/13 0]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 5
[[1 0 0 0, [0 1 0 0, [5/11 13/11 0 0, [4/11 17/11 0 0]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 3

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.050389

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 99/98, 121/120, 126/125

Mapping: [1 3 4 5 5], 0 -11 -13 -17 -12]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~11/10

POTE generator: ~11/10 = 154.645

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0 0, [19/10 11/5 0 0 -11/10, [27/10 13/5 0 0 -13/10, [33/10 17/5 0 0 -17/10, [19/5 12/5 0 0 -6/5]
Eigenmonzos (unchanged intervals): 2, 11/9

Algebraic generator: positive root of 15x2 - 10x - 7, or (5 + sqrt (130))/15, at 154.6652 cents. The recurrence converges very quickly.

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.025621

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 66/65, 99/98, 121/120, 126/125

Mapping: [1 3 4 5 5 5], 0 -11 -13 -17 -12 -10]]

POTE generator: ~11/10 = 154.478

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.023323

Thuja

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Thuja.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 65536/64827

Mapping: [1 -4 0 7], 0 12 5 -9]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 12 5 -9 -20 -48 -35 ]]

POTE generator: ~175/128 = 558.605

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.088441

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 1344/1331

Mapping: [1 -4 0 7 3], 0 12 5 -9 1]]

POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.620

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.033078

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 364/363

Mapping: [1 -4 0 7 3 -7], 0 12 5 -9 1 23]]

POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.589

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.022838

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 176/175, 221/220, 256/255

Mapping: [1 -4 0 7 3 -7 12], 0 12 5 -9 1 23 -17]]

POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.509

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.022293

19-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19

Comma list: 96/95, 126/125, 144/143, 153/152, 176/175, 221/220

Mapping: [1 -4 0 7 3 -7 12 1], 0 12 5 -9 1 23 -17 7]]

POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.504

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.018938

23-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23

Comma list: 96/95, 126/125, 144/143, 153/152, 176/175, 221/220, 231/230

Mapping: [1 -4 0 7 3 -7 12 1 5], 0 12 5 -9 1 23 -17 7 -1]]

POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.522

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.016581

29-limit

The raison d'etre of this entry is the simple and accurate approximation of factor twenty-nine, the 2.5.11.21.29 subgroup being of especially good accuracy and simplicity.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23.29

Comma list: 96/95, 116/115, 126/125, 144/143, 153/152, 176/175, 221/220, 231/230

Mapping: [1 -4 0 7 3 -7 12 1 5 3], 0 12 5 -9 1 23 -17 7 -1 4]]

POTE generator: ~11/8 = 558.520

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.013762

Cypress

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Cypress.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 19683/19208

Mapping: [1 7 10 15], 0 -12 -17 -27]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 12 17 27 -1 9 15 ]]

POTE generator: ~135/98 = 541.828

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.099801

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 99/98, 126/125, 243/242

Mapping: [1 7 10 15 17], 0 -12 -17 -27 -30]]

POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.772

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.042719

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 66/65, 99/98. 126/125, 243/242

Mapping: [1 7 10 15 17 15], 0 -12 -17 -27 -30 -25]]

POTE generator: ~15/11 = 541.778

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.037849

Bisemidim

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 118098/117649

Mapping: [2 1 2 2], 0 9 11 15]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 18 22 30 -7 -3 8 ]]

POTE generator: ~35/27 = 455.445

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.097786

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 540/539, 1344/1331

Mapping: [2 1 2 2 5], 0 9 11 15 8]]

POTE generator: ~35/27 = 455.373

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.041190

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 144/143, 196/195, 364/363

Mapping: [2 1 2 2 5 5], 0 9 11 15 8 10]]

POTE generator: ~35/27 = 455.347

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.023877

Vines

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Vines.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 84035/82944

Mapping: [2 7 8 8], 0 -8 -7 -5]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 312.602

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.078049

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 385/384, 2401/2376

Mapping: [2 7 8 8 5], 0 -8 -7 -5 4]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 312.601

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.044499

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 364/363, 385/384

Mapping: [2 7 8 8 5 5], 0 -8 -7 -5 4 5]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 312.564

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.029693

Kumonga

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Kumonga.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 12288/12005

Mapping: [1 4 4 3], 0 -13 -9 -1]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 13 9 1 -16 -35 -23 ]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 222.797

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.087500

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 864/847

Mapping: [1 4 4 3 7], 0 -13 -9 -1 -19]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 222.898

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.043336

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 78/77, 126/125, 144/143, 176/175

Mapping: [1 4 4 3 7 5], 0 -13 -9 -1 -19 -7]]

POTE generator: ~8/7 = 222.961

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.028920

Amigo

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 2097152/2083725

Mapping: [1 -2 2 9], 0 11 1 -19]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 11 1 -19 -24 -61 -47 ]]

POTE generator: ~5/4 = 391.094

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.110873

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 16384/16335

Mapping: [1 -2 2 9 9], 0 11 1 -19 -17]]

POTE generator: ~5/4 = 391.075

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.043438

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 169/168, 176/175, 364/363

Mapping: [1 -2 2 9 9 5], 0 11 1 -19 -17 -4]]

POTE generator: ~5/4 = 391.073

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.030666

Oolong

For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see High badness temperaments #Oolong.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 126/125, 117649/116640

Mapping: [1 6 7 8], 0 -17 -18 -20]]

Wedgie⟨⟨ 17 18 20 -11 -16 -4 ]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 311.679

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.073509

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 26411/26244

Mapping: [1 6 7 8 18], 0 -17 -18 -20 -56]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 311.587

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.056915

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 126/125, 176/175, 196/195, 13013/12960

Mapping: [1 6 7 8 18 5], 0 -17 -18 -20 -56 -5]]

POTE generator: ~6/5 = 311.591

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.035582