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A '''3-limit''' interval is either an integer whose only prime factors are 2 and 3, the reciprocal of such an integer, the ratio of a power of 2 to a power of 3, or the ratio of a power of 3 to a power of 2. All 3-limit intervals can be written as 2^a 3^b, where a and b can be any (positive, negative or zero) integer. Some examples of 3-limit intervals are [[3/2]], [[4/3]], [[9/8]]. Confining intervals to the 3-limit is known as [[Pythagorean tuning]], and the Pythagorean tuning used in Europe during the Middle Ages is the seed out of which grew the common-practice tradition of Western music.
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[[EDO]]s which do relatively well at approximating 3-limit intervals can be found as the denominators of the convergents and semiconvergents of the [[wikipedia: Continued fraction|continued fraction]] for the logarithm of 3 base 2. These are 1, 2, 3, [[5edo|5]], [[7edo|7]], [[12edo|12]], [[17edo|17]], [[29edo|29]], [[41edo|41]], [[53edo|53]], [[94edo|94]], [[147edo|147]], [[200edo|200]], [[253edo|253]], [[306edo|306]], ...
The '''3-limit''' consists of all [[just intonation]] intervals whose [[Ratio|numerators and denominators]] are both products of the primes 2 and 3. Some examples of 3-limit intervals are [[3/2]], [[4/3]], [[9/8]]. All 3-limit intervals can be written as <math>2^a \cdot 3^b</math>, where ''a'' and ''b'' can be any (positive, negative or zero) integer. When octave-reduced, if b is non-zero, a and b are opposite signs. In other words, one number in the ratio is a power of 2 and the other number is a power of 3. Confining intervals to the 3-limit is known as [[Pythagorean tuning]], and the Pythagorean tuning used in Europe during the Middle Ages is the seed out of which grew the common-practice tradition of Western music, as well as genres derived from it. The 3-limit can be considered a [[Rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] [[temperament]] which [[Tempering out|tempers out]] no [[comma]]s.


Another approach is to find EDOs which have more accurate 3 than all smaller EDOs. This results in 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 12, 29, 41, 53, 200, 253, 306, [[359edo|359]], [[665edo|665]], 8286, 8951, 9616, 10281, 10946, 11611, 12276, 12941, 13606, 14271, 14936, 15601, 31867, ...
== Terminology ==
A 3-limit interval is also known as a Pythagorean interval. Recently, composers [[Catherine Lamb]] and [[Marc Sabat]] have adopted ''tertial'' for intervals of [[harmonic class|HC3]]{{citation needed}}, not to be confused with ''tertian'' which is the adjective associated with the third [[5L 2s|diatonic]] degree.  


== Edo approximation ==
[[Edo]]s which do relatively well at approximating 3-limit intervals can be found as the denominators of the convergents and semiconvergents of the [[wikipedia: Continued fraction|continued fraction]] for the logarithm base 2 of 3. These are {{EDOs| 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 12, 17, 29, 41, 53, 94, 147, 200, 253, 306, 359, 665, … }} ({{OEIS|A206788}})
Another approach is to find edos which have more accurate approximation to 3 than all smaller edos. This results in {{EDOs|1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 12, 29, 41, 53, 200, 253, 306, 359, 665, 8286, 8951, 9616, 10281, 10946, 11611, 12276, 12941, 13606, 14271, 14936, 15601, 31867 }}, … ({{OEIS|A060528}})
A stricter approach is to find edos with an increasingly stronger [[consistent circle]] of 3/2. These are {{EDOs|1, 12, 53, 665, 190537, … }} (with strengths 1, 2, 3, 11, 28, … respectively)
== Table of intervals ==
3-limit intervals up to [[odd-limit]] 19683:
3-limit intervals up to [[odd-limit]] 19683:
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-3"
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-3 center-6 center-7"
|-
|-
! Ratio
! [[Ratio]]
! [[Monzo]]
! [[Monzo]]
! Size ([[cent|¢]])
! Size ([[Cent|¢]])
! colspan="2" | [[Kite's color notation|Color name]]
! colspan="2" | [[Kite's color notation|Color Name]]
! colspan="2" | Interval category
! colspan="2" | Diatonic Category
|-
|-
| [[1/1]]
| [[1/1]]
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| w1
| w1
| wa unison
| wa unison
| unison
| P1
| C
| C
|-
|-
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| Lw1
| Lw1
| lawa 1sn
| lawa 1sn
| aug. unison
| A1
| C#
| C#
|-
|-
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| sw2
| sw2
| sawa 2nd
| sawa 2nd
| minor 2nd
| m2
| Db
| Db
|-
|-
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| w2
| w2
| wa 2nd
| wa 2nd
| major 2nd
| M2
| D
| D
|-
|-
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| Lw2
| Lw2
| lawa 2nd
| lawa 2nd
| aug. 2nd
| A2
| D#
| D#
|-
|-
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| w3
| w3
| wa 3rd
| wa 3rd
| minor 3rd
| m3
| Eb
| Eb
|-
|-
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| Lw3
| Lw3
| lawa 3rd
| lawa 3rd
| major 3rd
| M3
| E
| E
|-
|-
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| sw4
| sw4
| sawa 4th
| sawa 4th
| dim. fourth
| d4
| Fb
| Fb
|-
|-
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| w4
| w4
| wa 4th
| wa 4th
| fourth
| P4
| F
| F
|-
|-
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| Lw4
| Lw4
| lawa 4th
| lawa 4th
| aug. fourth
| A4
| F#
| F#
|-
|-
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| sw5
| sw5
| sawa 5th
| sawa 5th
| dim. fifth
| d5
| Gb
| Gb
|-
|-
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| w5
| w5
| wa 5th
| wa 5th
| fifth
| P5
| G
| G
|-
|-
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| Lw5
| Lw5
| lawa 5th
| lawa 5th
| aug. fifth
| A5
| G#
| G#
|-
|-
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| sw6
| sw6
| sawa 6th
| sawa 6th
| minor 6th
| m6
| Ab
| Ab
|-
|-
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| w6
| w6
| wa 6th
| wa 6th
| major 6th
| M6
| A
| A
|-
|-
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| sw7
| sw7
| sawa 7th
| sawa 7th
| dim. 7th
| d7
| Bbb
| Bbb
|-
|-
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| w7
| w7
| wa 7th
| wa 7th
| minor 7th
| m7
| Bb
| Bb
|-
|-
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| Lw7
| Lw7
| lawa 7th
| lawa 7th
| major 7th
| M7
| B
| B
|-
|-
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| sw8
| sw8
| sawa 8ve
| sawa 8ve
| dim. octave
| d8
| Cb
| Cb
|-
|-
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| w8
| w8
| wa 8ve
| wa 8ve
| octave
| P8
| C
| C
|}
|}
== Music ==
; [[E8 Heterotic]]
* [https://youtu.be/NPoyCQ7aYY8?si=bnAq4FJ7f8s3AagZ "Elements - Metal"] from ''Elements'' (2019–2020)
; [[Francium]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzFK7uzAR1g ''Pythagorean Metal''] (2023)
; [[John Doe]]
* [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GF7lTvOQ9r8 ''Building (A New Sun)''] (2017)
===== [[Charles Ives]] =====
[[Johnny Reinhard]]'s 2023 book, ''[https://www.visionedition.com/publication/the-transcendental-tuning-of-charles-ives/ The Transcendental Tuning of Charles Ives]'', lays the foundation for AFMM's realizations of some of Ives' works, employing chains of up to 29 perfect fifths.
* [https://johnnyreinhard.bandcamp.com/album/charles-ives-string-quartet-2-by-flux-quartet-three-quartone-pieces-for-2-pianos-played-by-pierce-jonas-the-unanswered-question-universe-symphony-realized-by-reinhard-michael-thorne-three-page-so String Quartet #2, The Unanswered Question, Three-Page Sonata, Universe Symphony]
* [https://johnnyreinhard.bandcamp.com/album/charles-ives-transcendental-concord-sonata-by-charles-ives-for-two-pianos-in-spiral-of-fifths-tuning-performed-by-pianists-gabriel-zucker-and-erika-dohi-american-festival-of-microtonal-music Concord Sonata]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8HkPie8y08 The Unanswered Question]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT2E13p3sLw Universe Symphony]
; [[Peter Kosmorsky|Peter 'Rush' Kosmorsky]]
* ''String Trio no. 2'' (2013) – [https://soundcloud.com/peter-rush-kosmorsky/string-trio-no-2-for-three-strings SoundCloud] | [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Kosmorsky/__String_Trio_no__2_by_Peter__Rush__Kosmorsky.mp3 play] – in [[Pythagorean17|Pythagorean[17]]]
; [[Zhea Erose]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISHYKXPaL5o ''Circles of Indigo - Dreamsura''] (2023)


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Pythagorean tuning]]
* [[Harmonic limit]]
* [[Harmonic limit]]
* [[3-odd-limit]]
* [[3-odd-limit]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning Pythagorean tuning - Wikipedia]


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Latest revision as of 16:58, 28 March 2026

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The 3-limit consists of all just intonation intervals whose numerators and denominators are both products of the primes 2 and 3. Some examples of 3-limit intervals are 3/2, 4/3, 9/8. All 3-limit intervals can be written as [math]\displaystyle{ 2^a \cdot 3^b }[/math], where a and b can be any (positive, negative or zero) integer. When octave-reduced, if b is non-zero, a and b are opposite signs. In other words, one number in the ratio is a power of 2 and the other number is a power of 3. Confining intervals to the 3-limit is known as Pythagorean tuning, and the Pythagorean tuning used in Europe during the Middle Ages is the seed out of which grew the common-practice tradition of Western music, as well as genres derived from it. The 3-limit can be considered a rank-2 temperament which tempers out no commas.

Terminology

A 3-limit interval is also known as a Pythagorean interval. Recently, composers Catherine Lamb and Marc Sabat have adopted tertial for intervals of HC3[citation needed], not to be confused with tertian which is the adjective associated with the third diatonic degree.

Edo approximation

Edos which do relatively well at approximating 3-limit intervals can be found as the denominators of the convergents and semiconvergents of the continued fraction for the logarithm base 2 of 3. These are 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 12, 17, 29, 41, 53, 94, 147, 200, 253, 306, 359, 665, … (OEIS: A206788)

Another approach is to find edos which have more accurate approximation to 3 than all smaller edos. This results in 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 12, 29, 41, 53, 200, 253, 306, 359, 665, 8286, 8951, 9616, 10281, 10946, 11611, 12276, 12941, 13606, 14271, 14936, 15601, 31867, … (OEIS: A060528)

A stricter approach is to find edos with an increasingly stronger consistent circle of 3/2. These are 1, 12, 53, 665, 190537, … (with strengths 1, 2, 3, 11, 28, … respectively)

Table of intervals

3-limit intervals up to odd-limit 19683:

Ratio Monzo Size (¢) Color Name Diatonic Category
1/1 [0 0.000 w1 wa unison P1 C
2187/2048 [-11 7 113.685 Lw1 lawa 1sn A1 C#
256/243 [8 -5 90.225 sw2 sawa 2nd m2 Db
9/8 [-3 2 203.910 w2 wa 2nd M2 D
19683/16384 [-14 9 317.595 Lw2 lawa 2nd A2 D#
32/27 [5 -3 294.135 w3 wa 3rd m3 Eb
81/64 [-6 4 407.820 Lw3 lawa 3rd M3 E
8192/6561 [13 -8 384.360 sw4 sawa 4th d4 Fb
4/3 [2 -1 498.045 w4 wa 4th P4 F
729/512 [-9 6 611.730 Lw4 lawa 4th A4 F#
1024/729 [10 -6 588.270 sw5 sawa 5th d5 Gb
3/2 [-1 1 701.955 w5 wa 5th P5 G
6561/4096 [-12 8 815.640 Lw5 lawa 5th A5 G#
128/81 [7 -4 792.180 sw6 sawa 6th m6 Ab
27/16 [-4 3 905.865 w6 wa 6th M6 A
32768/19683 [15 -9 882.405 sw7 sawa 7th d7 Bbb
16/9 [4 -2 996.090 w7 wa 7th m7 Bb
243/128 [-7 5 1109.775 Lw7 lawa 7th M7 B
4096/2187 [12 -7 1086.315 sw8 sawa 8ve d8 Cb
2/1 [1 1200.000 w8 wa 8ve P8 C

Music

E8 Heterotic
Francium
John Doe
Charles Ives

Johnny Reinhard's 2023 book, The Transcendental Tuning of Charles Ives, lays the foundation for AFMM's realizations of some of Ives' works, employing chains of up to 29 perfect fifths.

Peter 'Rush' Kosmorsky
Zhea Erose

See also