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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Name = large undecimal diminished octave, undecimal major seventh
| Name = large undecimal diminished octave, undecimal major seventh, pentacircle major seventh
| Color name = 1uz8, luzo 8ve
| Color name = 1uz8, luzo 8ve
| Sound = jid_21_11_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Sound = jid_21_11_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
}}
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'''21/11''', the '''large undecimal diminished octave''' is an [[11-limit]] interval, and the octave complement of [[22/21]]. Of note is that the Huygens-Fokker Foundation dubs this interval the '''undecimal major seventh''', which, in light of the size of [[33/32]], also makes sense, resulting in this interval being perhaps best classified as a "sevtave" – a type of cross between a seventh and an octave.
'''21/11''', commonly known as the '''large undecimal diminished octave''', is an [[11-limit]] interval, and the octave complement of [[22/21]].  
 
In many notation systems (e.g. [[FJS]], [[HEJI]]), it is an imperfect octave, as it is the octave minus a stack consisting of an [[33/32|undecimal quartertone (33/32)]] and a [[64/63|septimal comma (64/63)]], neither of which changes the [[scale|scale degree]] or [[interval quality|quality]]. However, it is only sharp of the [[243/128|Pythagorean major seventh (243/128)]] by a [[896/891|pentacircle comma (896/891)]]. For this reason it could be called the '''pentacircle major seventh'''.
 
Of note is that the Huygens-Fokker Foundation dubs this interval the '''undecimal major seventh''', which also makes sense, resulting in this interval being perhaps best classified as a "sevtave" – a type of cross between a seventh and an octave.  
== Approximation ==
{{Interval edo approximation|21/11}}


== See also ==
== See also ==
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[[Category:Major seventh]]
[[Category:Major seventh]]
[[Category:Over-11 intervals]]
[[Category:Over-11 intervals]]
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Latest revision as of 13:05, 3 November 2025

Interval information
Ratio 21/11
Factorization 3 × 7 × 11-1
Monzo [0 1 0 1 -1
Size in cents 1119.463¢
Names large undecimal diminished octave,
undecimal major seventh,
pentacircle major seventh
Color name 1uz8, luzo 8ve
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{P8}^{7}_{11} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 7.85175
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 8.78463
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 21

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21/11, commonly known as the large undecimal diminished octave, is an 11-limit interval, and the octave complement of 22/21.

In many notation systems (e.g. FJS, HEJI), it is an imperfect octave, as it is the octave minus a stack consisting of an undecimal quartertone (33/32) and a septimal comma (64/63), neither of which changes the scale degree or quality. However, it is only sharp of the Pythagorean major seventh (243/128) by a pentacircle comma (896/891). For this reason it could be called the pentacircle major seventh.

Of note is that the Huygens-Fokker Foundation dubs this interval the undecimal major seventh, which also makes sense, resulting in this interval being perhaps best classified as a "sevtave" – a type of cross between a seventh and an octave.

Approximation

Edo approximations for 21/11 (1119.46 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
14 13\14 1114.29 -5.18 -6.04
15 14\15 1120.00 +0.54 +0.67
16 15\16 1125.00 +5.54 +7.38
29 27\29 1117.24 -2.22 -5.37
30 28\30 1120.00 +0.54 +1.34
31 29\31 1122.58 +3.12 +8.05
44 41\44 1118.18 -1.28 -4.70
45 42\45 1120.00 +0.54 +2.01
46 43\46 1121.74 +2.28 +8.73
59 55\59 1118.64 -0.82 -4.03
60 56\60 1120.00 +0.54 +2.69
61 57\61 1121.31 +1.85 +9.40
74 69\74 1118.92 -0.54 -3.35
75 70\75 1120.00 +0.54 +3.36

See also