Superpyth

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Superpyth is a temperament of the archytas clan where ~3/2 is a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is tempered out, so a stack of two generators octave-reduced represents 8/7 in addition to 9/8 (in other words, intervals such as A–G and C–B♭ are harmonic sevenths). Since 3/2 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fifths notation that is also used for meantone and 12edo, with the understanding that sharps are sharper than flats (for example, A♯ is sharper than B♭) just like in Pythagorean tuning, in contrast to meantone where sharps are flatter than or equal to the corresponding flats. The plastic number has a value of ~486.822 cents, which, taken as a generator (~4/3) and assuming an octave period, constitutes a variety of superpyth. This can be explained since superpyth equates 21/16 and 4/3, making the 9:12:16:21 chord evenly spaced by ~4/3, and when keeping ~9 + ~12 = ~21 the generator becomes the plastic number.

Such a temperament without the 5th harmonic is also called archy. If intervals of 5 are desired, it is mapped to +9 generators through tempering out 245/243, so C-D♯ is 5/4. So superpyth is the "opposite" of septimal meantone in several different ways: Meantone (including 12edo) has 3/2 tuned flat so that the 5th harmonic's intervals are simple and the 7th harmonic's intervals are complex, while superpyth has 3/2 tuned sharp so that the 7th harmonic's intervals are simple while the 5th harmonic's intervals are complex.

If intervals of 11 are desired, the canonical way is to map 11/8 to +16 generators, or a doubly-augmented second (C–D𝄪), tempering out 100/99. Yet a simpler but reasonable way is to map it to −6 generators, or a diminished fifth (C–G♭), by tempering out 99/98. The latter is called supra, or suprapyth. The two mappings unite on 22edo.

If intervals of 13 are desired, 13/8 is mapped to +13 generators, or a doubly-augmented fourth (C–F𝄪), by tempering out 31213/31104.

Mos scales of superpyth have cardinalities of 5, 7, 12, 17, or 22.

For more technical data, see Archytas clan #Superpyth.

Interval chains

In the following tables, odd harmonics 1–11 are in bold.

Archy (2.3.7)
# Cents* Approximate Ratios
0 0.0 1/1
1 709.6 3/2
2 219.2 8/7, 9/8
3 928.8 12/7
4 438.4 9/7
5 1148.0 27/14
6 657.6 72/49, 81/56
7 167.2 54/49

* in 2.3.7-subgroup CTE tuning

Supra (2.3.7.11)
# Cents* Approximate Ratios
0 0.0 1/1
1 708.5 3/2
2 216.9 8/7, 9/8
3 925.4 12/7
4 433.8 9/7, 14/11
5 1142.3 21/11, 27/14, 64/33
6 650.7 16/11
7 159.2 12/11

* in 2.3.7.11-subgroup CTE tuning

Full 7-limit superpyth
# Cents* Approximate Ratios
7-limit 11-limit Extension
(Superpyth)
11-limit Extension
(Suprapyth)
0 0.0 1/1
1 709.6 3/2
2 219.2 8/7, 9/8
3 928.8 12/7
4 438.4 9/7 14/11
5 1148.0 27/14, 35/18 88/45 21/11, 64/33
6 657.5 35/24, 40/27 22/15 16/11
7 167.1 10/9 11/10 12/11
8 876.7 5/3 33/20 18/11
9 386.3 5/4 27/22
10 1095.9 15/8, 40/21
11 605.5 10/7
12 115.1 15/14
13 824.7 45/28 44/27
14 334.3 60/49 11/9 40/33
15 1043.9 50/27 11/6 20/11
16 553.5 25/18 11/8 15/11
17 63.0 25/24 22/21, 33/32 45/44

* in 7-limit CTE tuning

Scales

5-note MOS (2L 3s, proper)
  • Archy5 – archy in 472edo tuning
7-note MOS (5L 2s, improper)
  • Archy7 – archy in 472edo tuning
  • Supra7 – supra in 56edo tuning

In contrast to the meantone diatonic scale, the superpyth diatonic is improper.

12-note MOS (5L 7s, borderline improper)
  • Archy12 – archy in 472edo tuning
  • Supra12 – supra in 56edo tuning
  • 12-22a – superpyth in 22edo tuning

The boundary of propriety is 17edo.

Tunings

Prime-optimized tunings

2.3.7 Subgroup Prime-Optimized Tunings
Weight-skew\Order Euclidean
Tenney CTE: ~3/2 = 709.5948¢
Weil CWE: ~3/2 = 709.3901¢
Equilateral CEE: ~3/2 = 712.8606¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.49/3 (2/5-comma tuning)
Skewed-equilateral CSEE: ~3/2 = 711.9997¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.823543/243 (7/19-comma tuning)
Benedetti/Wilson CBE: ~3/2 = 707.7286¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 -49 0 18 (18/85-comma tuning)
Skewed-Benedetti/Wilson CSBE: ~3/2 = 707.9869¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 -63 25 (25/113-comma tuning)
7-limit Prime-Optimized Tunings
Weight-skew\Order Euclidean
Tenney CTE: ~3/2 = 709.5907¢
Weil CWE: ~3/2 = 710.1193¢
Equilateral CEE: ~3/2 = 709.7805¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.5859375/49
Skewed-equilateral CSEE: ~3/2 = 710.2428¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 3 -37 18
Benedetti/Wilson CBE: ~3/2 = 709.4859¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 -1225 -3969 450
Skewed-Benedetti/Wilson CSBE: ~3/2 = 710.0321¢
Eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.[0 665 -15771 5160

Tuning spectrum

Edo
Generator
Eigenmonzo
(Unchanged-interval)
Generator
(¢)
Comments
3/2 701.955 Pythagorean tuning
10\17 705.882 Lower bound of 7- and 9-odd-limit diamond monotone
81/56 706.499 1/6 comma
27/14 707.408 1/5 comma
23\39 707.692
9/7 708.771 1/4 comma, {1, 3, 7, 9} minimax
15/8 708.807
13\22 709.091
5/4 709.590 9-odd-limit minimax
49/27 709.745 2/7 comma
15/14 709.954
25/24 710.040
29\49 710.204
5/3 710.545
7/5 710.681 7-odd-limit minimax
7/6 711.043 1/3 comma, {1, 3, 7} minimax
16\27 711.111
21/20 711.553
9/5 711.772
19\32 712.500
49/48 712.861 2/5 comma, 2.3.7 subgroup CEE tuning
22\37 713.514
25\42 714.286
7/4 715.587 1/2 comma
3\5 720.000 Upper bound of 7- and 9-odd-limit diamond monotone
21/16 729.219 Full comma

Music

Lillian Hearne

Both in 22edo tuning

Joel Grant Taylor

All in superpyth[12] in 22edo tuning.

See also