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| Schismic thirds chromatic semitone
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|L<sup>8</sup>y<sup>53</sup>-14
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|y<sup>8</sup>-2, 8-fold yo negative 2nd
|y<sup>8</sup>-2, eightfold yo negative 2nd
| 390625 / 373248
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| {{Monzo| -9 -6 8 }}
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| 262144 / 253125
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| diesis, augmented comma
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|g<sup>3</sup>2, truple gu 2nd
|g<sup>3</sup>2, triple gu 2nd
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|s<sup>3</sup>g<sup>10</sup>5, triple small tenfold gu 5th
|s<sup>4</sup>g<sup>10</sup>5, quad-small tenfold gu 5th
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Revision as of 12:55, 15 November 2018

Definition

A comma is a small interval that occurs in just intonation, between two intervals which are close in pitch. Commas are always greater than 1 (0 cents) and not a power such as a square or cube of any other interval, and generally in a low prime limit. The word is often used in reference to regular tempering when the comma is tempered out, which is to say reduced to a unison, by the temperament, thereby equating the intervals separated by that comma. For example the Syntonic or Didymus comma of 81/80, which occurs between 10/9 and 9/8, as well as 81/64 and 5/4, is tempered out by meantone temperament. Commas are usually written as ratios, but they can also be written as monzos. The following lists mostly give both forms, as well as the size in cents.

For commas over 100 cents in size, see Large commas; and for commas under 3.5 cents in size, see Unnoticeable commas

Due to the wide range of sizes, cents values here and on the other commas pages are listed to 5 significant digits, instead of to a fixed number of decimal places as is the convention elsewhere on the wiki.

List of commas, by prime limit

3-limit commas

Name(s) Color Name Ratio Monzo Cents
limma, Pythagorean minor second sw2, small wa 2nd 256 / 243 [8 -5 90.225
Pythagorean comma LLw-2, wa comma 531441/524288 [-19 12 23.460
17-comma ssw3, wa-17 comma 134217728/129140163 [27 -17 66.765
29-comma s4w4, wa-29 comma 70368744177664/68630377364883 [46 -29 43.305
41-comma s6w5, wa-41 comma 36893488147419103232/

36472996377170786403

[65 -41 19.845
Pythagorean integer cents comma w-200, wa-200 comma [317 -200 8.9998
Mercator's comma, 53-comma L8w-6, wa-53 comma 19383245667680019896796723/

19342813113834066795298816

[-84 53 3.6150
70-comma s10w8, wa-70 comma [111 -70 63.150

5-limit commas

Name(s) Color name Ratio Monzo Cents
Twenty-two thirds limma L3y22-6, triple large 22-fold yo neg. 6th [-51 0 22 98.902
sibbolet L4y25-7, quad-large 25-fold yo neg. 7th [-58 0 25 57.843
Hunt 5-cycle comma L4y28-8, quad-large 28-fold yo neg 8ve [-65 0 28 16.784
acute thirds comma s4g319 [72 0 -31 24.275
34-5-comma s5g3410 [79 0 -34 65.334
Schismic thirds chromatic semitone L8y53-14 [-123 0 53 74.627
59-5-comma s9g5916 [137 0 -59 7.4909
10-15-comma [-39 10 10 82.687
11-15-comma [43 -11 -11 29.044
21-15-comma [-82 21 21 53.643
32-15-comma [-125 32 32 24.599
Huntian 15-cycle comma [168 -43 -43 4.4453
56-syntonic comma [-225 224 -56 4.3522
53-15-comma [-207 53 53 78.242
54-15-comma [211 -54 -54 33.489
76-15-comma [297 -76 -76 91.578
major chroma, major limma, pelogic comma Ly1, large yo unison 135 / 128 [-7 3 1 92.179
ripple g52, quintgu 2nd 6561 / 6250 [-1 8 -5 84.071
doublewide y8-2, eightfold yo negative 2nd 390625 / 373248 [-9 -6 8 78.780
sevond sy71, small sevenfold yo unison 5000000 / 4782969 [6 -14 7 76.826
nusecond g113, 11-fold gu 3rd 51018336 / 48828125 [5 13 -11 75.964
sentinel L3y4-3, triple large quadyo negative 3rd 8968066875 / 8589934592 [-33 15 4 74.580
chromatic semitone yy1, yoyo unison, yoyo semitone 25 / 24 [-3 -1 2 70.672
superpyth, grave minor second sy2, small yo 2nd 20480 / 19683 [12 -9 1 68.719
major diesis, diminished comma g42, quadgu 2nd 648 / 625 [3 4 -4 62.565
passion sg53, quintgu 3rd 262144 / 253125 [18 -4 -5 60.611
shibboleth y9-2, ninefold yo negative 2nd 1953125 / 1889568 [-5 -10 9 57.273
mynic g103, tenfold gu 3rd 10077696 / 9765625 [9 9 -10 54.458
tritonic LLy5-3, double large quintyo negative 3rd 553584375 / 536870912 [-29 11 5 53.074
negri comma, double augmentation diesis Ly4-2, large quadyo negative 2nd 16875 / 16384 [-14 3 4 51.120
maximal diesis, porcupine comma y31, triple yo comma 250 / 243 [1 -5 3 49.166
immunity ssyy2, double small yoyo 2nd 1638400 / 1594323 [16 -13 2 47.212
diesis, augmented comma g32, triple gu 2nd 128 / 125 [7 0 -3 41.059
wizard LLy12-4, double large 12-fold yo neg. 4th 2197265625 / 2147483648 [-31 2 12 39.675
sycamore Ly11-3, large 11-fold yo negative 3rd 48828125 / 47775744 [-16 -6 11 37.721
fifive sy10-2, small tenfold yo negative 2nd 9765625 / 9565938 [-1 -14 10 35.767
unicorn Lg82, large eightfold gu 2nd 1594323 / 1562500 [-2 13 -8 34.905
valensixthtone sg93, small ninefold gu 3rd 1990656 / 1953125 [13 5 -9 32.952
ampersand, Ampersand's comma LLy6-3, double large sixfold yo neg. 3rd 34171875 / 33554432 [-25 7 6 31.567
small diesis, magic comma Ly5-2, large quintyo negative 2nd 3125 / 3072 [-10 -1 5 29.614
minimal diesis, tetracot comma sy41, small quadyo unison 20000 / 19683 [5 -9 4 27.660
roda ssy32, double small triple yo 2nd 131072000 / 129140163 [20 -17 3 25.706
maja sy17-3, small 17-fold yo comma 762939453125 / 753145430616 [-3 -23 17 22.368
syntonic / Didymos / meantone comma g1, gu unison, gu comma 81 / 80 [-4 4 -1 21.506
maquila comma s3g176, triple small 17-fold gu comma 562949953421312 / 556182861328125 [49 -6 -17 20.937
diaschisma sgg2, small gugu 2nd, gugu comma 2048 / 2025 [11 -4 -2 19.553
ditonma LLy13-4, double large 13-fold yo neg. 4th 1220703125 / 1207959552 [-27 -2 13 18.168
misty comma ssg33, double small triple gu 3rd 67108864 / 66430125 [26 -12 -3 17.599
pental comma L3g5-2, triple large quintgu negative 2nd 847288609443 / 838860800000 [-28 25 -5 17.306
graviton, gravity comma LLg61, double large sixfold gu unison 129140163 / 128000000 [-13 17 -6 15.353
quartonic sy11-2, small 11-fold yo negative 2nd 390625000 / 387420489 [3 -18 11 14.261
medium semicomma, sensipent comma g72, sevenfold gu 2nd 78732 / 78125 [2 9 -7 13.399
Würschmidt comma sg83, small eightfold gu 3rd 393216 / 390625 [17 1 -8 11.445
semicomma, Fokker comma Ly7-3, large sevenfold yo negative 3rd 2109375 / 2097152 [-21 3 7 10.061
escapade comma ssg94, double small ninefold gu 4th 4294967296 / 4271484375 [32 -7 -9 9.4916
kleisma, semicomma majeur y6-2, sixfold yo negative 2nd 15625 / 15552 [-6 -5 6 8.1073
qintosec comma s4g105, quad-small tenfold gu 5th 140737488355328 / 140126044921875 [47 -15 -10 7.5378
unidecma Lg122, large 12-fold gu 2nd 31381059609 / 31250000000 [-7 22 -12 7.2455
mutt comma L3y21-6, triple large 21-fold yo neg. 6th 476837158203125 / 474989023199232 [-44 -3 21 6.7230
amity comma sy51, small quintyo unison 1600000 / 1594323 [9 -13 5 6.1536
parakleisma g133, 13-fold gu 3rd 1224440064 / 1220703125 [8 14 -13 5.2917
gammic comma Ly20-5, large 20-fold yo negative 5th 95105071448064 / 95367431640625 [-29 -11 20 4.7693
vulture comma ssy42, double small quadyo 2nd 10485760000 / 10460353203 [24 -21 4 4.1998
23-3/5-comma g235 [17 23 -23 59.750
34-3/5-comma y343 [-25 -34 34 68.196
53-3/5-comma y537 [-39 -53 53 71.012

7-limit commas

Name(s) Ratio Monzo Cents
hexadecatone comma, 16-7-comma [45 0 0 -16 98.785
21-7-comma [59 0 0 -21 54.656
Hunt 7-cycle comma [73 0 0 -26 10.526
German sixth comma [-87 0 0 31 33.603
large deep red comma 6561 / 6272 [-7, 8, 0 -2 77.988
36-7-comma [-101 0 0 36 77.736
47-7-comma [132 0 0 -47 65.182
slendro integer cents comma [1123 0 0 -400 69.637
29-7/5-comma [-14 0 -29 29 92.854
31-7/5-comma [-15 0 -31 31 57.878
33-7/5-comma [-16 0 -33 33 22.902
35-7/5-comma [17 0 35 -35 12.073
37-7/5-comma [18 0 37 -37 47.049
39-7/5-comma [19 0 39 -39 82.024
5-21-comma 4194304 / 4084101 [22 -5 0 -5 46.095
18-21-comma [-79 18 0 18 74.056
23-21-comma [-101 23 0 23 27.961
Huntian 21-cycle comma [123 -28 0 -28 18.135
33-21-comma [145 -33 0 -33 64.230
8-35-comma [-41 0 8 8 41.117
15-35-comma [77 0 -15 -15 72.906
23-35-comma [118 0 -23 -23 31.789
31-35-comma [-159 0 31 31 9.3282
39-35-comma [-200 0 39 39 50.445
47-35-comma [-241 0 47 47 91.562
Huntian 35-cycle comma [277 0 -54 -54 22.461
greenwoodma 405 / 392 [-3 4 1 -2 56.482
Harrison's comma 59049 / 57344 [-13 10 0 -1 50.724
keega 1029 / 1000 [-3 1 -3 3 49.492
septimal quarter tone 36 / 35 [2 2 -1 -1 48.770
quarter tone comma [49 50 -25 -25 19.260
cloudy 16807 / 16384 [-14 0 0 5 44.130
Avicenna, Avicenna's enharmonic diesis 525 / 512 [-9 1 2 1 43.408
slendro diesis 49 / 48 [-4 -1 0 2 35.697
slendro 34-comma [-137 -34 0 68 13.692
34-jubilismic comma [-33 0 -68 68 10.829
tritonic diesis, jubilisma 50 / 49 [1 0 2 -2 34.976
eric 839808 / 823543 [7 8 0 -7 33.859
senga 686 / 675 [1 -3 -2 3 27.985
septimal comma, Archytas' comma, Leipziger Komma 64 / 63 [6 -2 0 -1 27.264
blackjackisma 854296875 / 843308032 [-10 7 8 -7 22.413
squalentine 64827 / 64000 [-9 3 -3 4 22.227
keema 875 / 864 [-5 -3 3 1 21.902
gariboh 3125 / 3087 [0 -2 5 -3 21.181
nuwell 2430 / 2401 [1 5 1 -4 20.785
tolerma 179200 / 177147 [10 -11 2 1 19.948
mirwomo 33075 / 32768 [-15 3 2 2 16.144
trimyna 50421 / 50000 [-4 1 -5 5 14.516
sensamagic 245 / 243 [0 -5 1 2 14.191
septimal semicomma, starling comma 126 / 125 [1 2 -3 1 13.795
octagar 4000 / 3969 [5 -4 3 -2 13.469
orwellisma, orwell comma 1728 / 1715 [6 3 -1 -3 13.074
quince 823543 / 819200 [-15 0 -2 7 9.1539
gamelisma 1029 / 1024 [-10 1 0 3 8.4327
varunisma 321489 / 320000 [-9 8 -4 2 8.0370
septimal kleisma, marvel comma 225 / 224 [-5 2 2 -1 7.7115
dimcomp 390625 / 388962 [-1 -4 8 -4 7.3861
cataharry 19683 / 19600 [-4 9 -2 -2 7.3158
mirkwai 16875 / 16807 [0 3 4 -5 6.9903
stearnsma 118098 / 117649 [1 10 0 -6 6.5946
hemimage 10976 / 10935 [5 -7 -1 3 6.4790
hemimean 3136 / 3125 [6 0 -5 2 6.0832
hemifamity 5120 / 5103 [10 -6 1 -1 5.7578
linus [11 -10 -10 10 5.5719
porwell 6144 / 6125 [11 1 -3 -2 5.3620
garischisma 33554432 / 33480783 [25 -14 0 -1 3.8041
wadisma 201768035 / 201326592 [-26 -1 1 9 3.7919
quasiorwellisma 29360128 / 29296875 [22 -1 -10 1 3.7338
218edo (stacked 7/4 and 10/9) comma [22 -32 16 -3 11.982
bapbo 256 / 245 [8 0 -1 -2 76.034

11-limit commas

Name(s) Ratio Monzo Cents
11-cycle chroma, 11-11-comma [-38 0 0 0 11 64.497
11-cycle major seventh prote, 35-11-comma [-121 0 0 0 35 96.128
Hunt 11-cycle comma [-83 0 0 0 24 31.631
Hunt flat 5 comma 8192 / 8019 [13 -6 0 0 -1 36.952
sterno 352 / 343 [5 0 0 -3 1 44.840
the Igs boson, 13-11-comma [45 0 0 0 -13 32.867
telepathma 55 / 54 [-1 -3 1 0 1 31.767
thuja comma 163840 / 161051 [15 0 1 0 -5 29.724
sensmus 1232 / 1215 [4 -5 -1 1 1 24.055
sevnothrush 3168 / 3125 [5 2 -5 0 1 23.659
cassacot 245 / 242 [-1 0 1 2 -2 21.330
mothwellsma 99 / 98 [-1 2 0 -2 1 17.576
ptolemisma 100 / 99 [2 -2 2 0 -1 17.399
hemimin 1344 / 1331 [6 1 0 1 -3 16.827
biyatisma 121 / 120 [-3 -1 -1 0 2 14.367
aphrowe 1331 / 1323 [0 -3 0 -2 3 10.437
valinorsma 176 / 175 [4 0 -2 -1 1 9.8646
pentacircle 896 / 891 [7 -4 0 1 -1 9.6880
orgonisma 65536 / 65219 [16 0 0 -2 -3 8.3944
rastma 243 / 242 [-1 5 0 0 -2 7.1391
myhemiwell 3388 / 3375 [2 -3 -3 1 2 6.6556
keenanisma 385 / 384 [-7 -1 1 1 1 4.5026
werckisma 441 / 440 [-3 2 -1 2 -1 3.9302
moctdel 1375 / 1372 [-2 0 3 -3 1 3.7814

13-limit commas

Name(s) Ratio Monzo Cents
Sinbadma 1001 / 1000 [-3 0 -3 1 1 1 1.7304
Hunt 13-cycle comma [-37 0 0 0 0 10 5.2766
silver half cents comma [-8881 0 0 0 0 2400 66.389
Hunt minor submediant comma 1053 / 1024 [-10 4 0 0 0 1 48.348
astburyp 4826809 / 4718592 [-19 -2 0 0 0 6 39.255
wilsorma 65 / 64 [-6 0 1 0 0 1 26.841
winmeanma 66 / 65 [1 1 -1 0 1 -1 26.432
negustma 78 / 77 [1 1 0 -1 -1 1 22.339
superleap 91 / 90 [-1 -2 -1 1 0 1 19.130
animist 105 / 104 [-3 1 1 1 0 -1 16.567
secorian 28672 / 28431 [12 -7 0 1 0 -1 14.613
mosaic 3159 / 3136 [-6 5 0 -2 0 1 12.651
gassorma 275 / 273 [0 -1 2 -1 1 -1 12.637
grossma 144 / 143 [4 2 0 0 -1 -1 12.064
buzurgisma, dhanvantarisma 169 / 168 [-3 -1 0 -1 0 2 10.274
catadictma 1287 / 1280 [-8 2 -1 0 1 1 9.4419
mynucuma 196 / 195 [2 -1 -1 2 0 -1 8.8554
huntma 640 / 637 [7 0 1 -2 0 -1 8.1342
threedie 2197 / 2187 [0 -7 0 0 0 3 7.8980
kestrel comma 1188 / 1183 [2 3 0 -1 1 -2 7.3017
marveltwin 325 / 324 [-2 -4 2 0 0 1 5.3351
ratwolfsma 351 / 350 [-1 3 -2 -1 0 1 4.9393
minthma 352 / 351 [5 -3 0 0 1 -1 4.9253
gentle comma 364 / 363 [2 -1 0 1 -2 1 4.7627
cuthbert 847 / 845 [0 0 -1 1 2 -2 4.0928

17-limit commas

Name(s) Ratio Monzo Cents
11 semitone comma [45 0 0 0 0 0 -11 45.490
12 semitone comma [-49 0 0 0 0 0 12 59.465
23 semitone comma [-94 0 0 0 0 0 23 13.974
Hunt 17-cycle comma [139 0 0 0 0 0 -34 31.516
17-ripple integer cents comma [327 0 0 0 0 0 -80 3.5672
Hunt flat 2 comma 4131 / 4096 [-12 5 0 0 0 0 1 14.730
Blume comma 2057 / 2048 [-11 0 0 0 2 0 1 7.5913
Septendecimal integer cents comma 289 / 288 [-5 -2 0 0 0 0 2 6.0008
Tannisma 273/272 [-4 1 0 1 0 1 -1 6.3532

19-limit commas

Name(s) Ratio Monzo Cents
Hunt 19-cycle comma 131072 / 130321 [17 0 0 0 0 0 0 -4 9.9479
spleen comma 210 / 209 [1 1 1 1 -1 0 0 -1 8.2637
go comma 361 / 360 [-3 -2 -1 0 0 0 0 2 4.8023