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== Tunings ==
== Tunings ==
=== Optimized tunings ===
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | Prime-Optimized Tunings
|-
! Weight-skew\Order !! Euclidean
|-
| Weil || (2.3.5) CWE: ~5/4 = 387.776¢
|-
| Tenney || (2.3.5) POTE: ~5/4 = 387.7993¢
|-
| Weil || (2.3.5.23) CWE: ~6/5 = 387.781¢
|-
| Tenney || (2.3.5.23) POTE: ~6/5 = 387.8051¢
|}
=== Tuning spectrum ===
=== Tuning spectrum ===
The below assumes the 2.3.5.11.23 subgroup extension. Note that "e" and "i" are the warts for primes 11 and 23, respectively.
The below assumes the 2.3.5.11.23 subgroup extension. Note that "e" and "i" are the warts for primes 11 and 23, respectively.

Revision as of 17:47, 28 September 2024

Würschmidt is a rank-2 temperament and parent of the würschmidt family, characterized by tempering out the würschmidt comma, (393216/390625). It can be treated as analogous to schismatic with the roles of the primes 3 and 5 reversed, since würschmidt is generated by a classical major third (5/4), very slightly sharpened so that eight of them make the sixth harmonic (6/1), giving 3/2 the same complexity 5/4 does in schismatic, but with comparable accuracy on the part of the generator. Four generators, therefore, reach the interval 625/512, which is equated to 768/625 and functions as a neutral third.

For technical data, see Würschmidt family #Würschmidt.

Extensions

Another useful interpretation of the würschmidt comma is that it makes the interval of 25/24 equal to two-thirds the size of 16/15. This can be exploited, as 16/15 factorizes into near-2:1 parts as (24/23)×(46/45), and therefore it is illogical not to set 25/24 equal to 24/23 (and 128/125 equal to 46/45) as well and set the remainder, 46/45, equal to a third of 16/15, by tempering S24 = 576/575 and S462 × S47 = 12167/12150 in the 2.3.5.23 subgroup. 14 generators turn out to stack to 23/1, and notably, 6/1 stacked 7 times and 23/1 stacked four times (at 56 generators) differ only by the 0.59-cent comma 279936/279841.

Strong extensions to the 7-limit include septimal würschmidt, worschmidt, and whirrschmidt, but these are either considerably higher-damage or much higher-complexity than 5-limit würschmidt. In fact, the best septimal extension may be the weak extension hemiwürschmidt, which splits the ~5/4 generator into two ~28/25's. Therefore, it may be advisable to consider würschmidt a no-sevens system, specifically in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup, where an extension that equates 128/125 with 45/44 and therefore 625/512 with 11/9 (by tempering out 243/242 and 5632/5625), finding the 11th harmonic at 20 generators up, is highly natural, in addition to the aforementioned extension to prime 23.

Interval chains

In the below, octave-reduced harmonics below 125 are indicated in bold.

Würschmidt
# Cents* Approximate Ratios
2.3.5.23 subgroup Add-11 extension
-8 497.59 4/3 162/121
-7 885.39 5/3, 192/115 92/55
-6 73.19 24/23, 25/24 23/22, 288/275
-5 460.99 30/23, 125/96 72/55, 176/135
-4 848.79 75/46, 368/225, 625/384 18/11, 44/27
-3 36.60 46/45, 128/125 45/44, 55/54
-2 424.40 23/18, 32/25 88/69, 225/176
-1 812.20 8/5, 115/72 110/69
0 0.0 1/1
1 387.80 5/4, 144/115 69/55
2 775.60 25/16, 36/23 69/44, 352/225
3 1163.40 45/23, 125/64, 736/375 88/45, 108/55
4 351.21 92/75, 225/184, 625/512 11/9, 27/22
5 739.01 23/15, 192/125 55/36, 135/88
6 1126.81 23/12, 48/25 44/23, 275/144
7 314.61 6/5, 115/96 55/46
8 702.41 3/2 121/81
9 1090.21 15/8, 216/115 207/110, 253/135
10 278.01 27/23, 75/64 88/75, 207/176
11 665.82 184/125, 135/92, 375/256 22/15, 81/55
12 1053.62 46/25, 675/368 11/6, 81/44
13 241.42 23/20, 144/125 55/48, 132/115
14 629.22 23/16, 36/25 33/23, 275/192
15 1017.02 9/5, 115/64 165/92, 242/135
16 204.82 9/8 121/108
17 592.62 45/32, 162/115 253/180
18 980.43 81/46, 225/128 44/25
19 168.23 138/125, 405/368 11/10, 243/220
20 556.03 69/50, 864/625 11/8, 243/176

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Tunings

Optimized tunings

Prime-Optimized Tunings
Weight-skew\Order Euclidean
Weil (2.3.5) CWE: ~5/4 = 387.776¢
Tenney (2.3.5) POTE: ~5/4 = 387.7993¢
Weil (2.3.5.23) CWE: ~6/5 = 387.781¢
Tenney (2.3.5.23) POTE: ~6/5 = 387.8051¢


Tuning spectrum

The below assumes the 2.3.5.11.23 subgroup extension. Note that "e" and "i" are the warts for primes 11 and 23, respectively.

Edo
Generator
Eigenmonzo
(Unchanged-interval)
*
Generator (¢) Comments
9\28 385.7143 28ei val
11/9 386.3137 1/4 vishdel comma
5/4 386.8520 Untempered tuning, lower bound of 5-odd-limit diamond tradeoff
10\31 387.0968 Lower bound of 2.3.5.23-subgroup 25-odd-limit diamond monotone
23/22 387.1739
375/256 387.3542 1/11-comma
41\127 387.4016 127e val
11/6 387.4469
75/64 387.4582 1/10-comma
31\96 387.5000
11/8 387.5659
52\161 387.5776
15/8 387.5854 1/9-comma
73\226 387.6106
11/10 387.6318
45/32 387.6602 2/17-comma
21\65 387.6923
23/12 387.7199
23/16 387.7338
116\359 387.7437 359ee val
3/2 387.7444 1/8-comma
74\229 387.7729 229e val
53\164 387.8049 164e val
23/18 387.8178 1/2 S24
85\263 387.8327 263ee val
9/5 387.8393 2/15-comma
23/20 387.8431
32\99 387.8788 99e val
75\232 387.9310 232eei val
6/5 387.9490 1/7-comma, upper bound of 5-odd-limit diamond tradeoff
43\133 387.9699 133e val
46/25 387.9706
23/15 388.0011
54\167 388.0240 167eei val
48/25 388.2213 1/6-comma, upper bound of 2.3.5.23-subgroup 25-odd-limit diamond tradeoff
11\34 388.2353
192/125 388.6028 1/5-comma
23\71 388.7324 71eei val
768/625 389.1750 1/4-comma
12\37 389.1892 37eei val
1\3 400.0000 Upper bound of 2.3.5.23-subgroup 25-odd-limit diamond monotone

* besides the octave

Other tunings

  • DKW (2.3.5): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 387.8015