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| [[Pythagorean comma]]
| [[Pythagorean comma]]
| wa comma
| lalawa comma
or wa comma
| LLw-2
| LLw-2
| 531441 / 524288
| 531441 / 524288
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|-
| syntonic / Didymos / meantone comma
| syntonic / Didymos / meantone comma
| Gu
| Gu or Meantone
| g1
| g1
| [[81/80|81 / 80]]
| [[81/80|81 / 80]]
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|-
| 25-36/35-comma, icosipentatonic comma
| 25-36/35-comma, icosipentatonic comma
| quinquinrugu
| Quinquinrugu
| r<sup>25</sup>g<sup>25</sup>-8
| r<sup>25</sup>g<sup>25</sup>-8
|  
|  
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|-
| 34-jubilismic comma
| 34-jubilismic comma
| sequadzogu
| Sequadzogu
| z<sup>68</sup>g<sup>68</sup>42
| z<sup>68</sup>g<sup>68</sup>42
|  
|  
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| {{Monzo| 2 3 0 -1 1 -2 }}
| {{Monzo| 2 3 0 -1 1 -2 }}
| 7.3017
| 7.3017
|-
|bean comma
|
|
| 2097152 / 2093663
| {{Monzo| 21 0 0 0 -5 -1 }}
| 5.4417
|-
|-
| [[marveltwin]]
| [[marveltwin]]
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|-
|lum comma
|lum comma
|
|Sosothulu
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|17oo3u1u2
|289 / 286
|289 / 286
|<nowiki>| -1 0 0 0 -1 -1 2 0 ></nowiki>
|<nowiki>| -1 0 0 0 -1 -1 2 ></nowiki>
|18.065
|18.065
|-
|-
|mey comma
|mey comma
|
|Sutritho
|
|17u3u<sup>3</sup>1
|2197 / 2176
|2197 / 2176
|<nowiki>| -7 0 0 0 0 3 -1 0 ></nowiki>
|<nowiki>| -7 0 0 0 0 3 -1 ></nowiki>
|16.628
|16.628
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|-
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| {{Monzo| -94 0 0 0 0 0 23 }}
| {{Monzo| -94 0 0 0 0 0 23 }}
| 13.974
| 13.974
|-
|sothuthuyo unison
|Sothuthuyo
|17o3uuy1
|170/169
|{{Monzo| 1 0 1 0 0 -2 1 }}
|10.214
|-
|-
| Blume comma
| Blume comma
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|ume comma
|ume comma
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|Nutriso
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|19u17o<sup>3</sup>2
|4913 / 4864
|4913 / 4864
|<nowiki>| -8 0 0 0 0 0 3 -1 ></nowiki>
|<nowiki>| -8 0 0 0 0 0 3 -1 ></nowiki>
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|eye comma
|eye comma
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|Nusosolulu
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|19u17oo1uu2
|2312 / 2299
|2312 / 2299
|<nowiki>| 3 0 0 0 -2 0 2 1 ></nowiki>
|<nowiki>| 3 0 0 0 -2 0 2 -1 ></nowiki>
|9.7619
|9.7619
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Revision as of 20:15, 22 April 2020

Definition

A comma is a small interval that occurs in just intonation, between two intervals which are close in pitch. Commas are always greater than 1 (0 cents) and not a power such as a square or cube of any other interval, and generally in a low prime limit. The word is often used in reference to regular tempering when the comma is tempered out, which is to say reduced to a unison, by the temperament, thereby equating the intervals separated by that comma. For example the Syntonic or Didymus comma of 81/80, which occurs between 10/9 and 9/8, as well as 81/64 and 5/4, is tempered out by meantone temperament. Commas are usually written as ratios, but they can also be written as monzos. The following lists mostly give both forms, as well as the size in cents. The color name refers to both the comma and the temperament created when it is tempered out, except for 3-limit commas, which create edos.

For commas over 100 cents in size, see Large commas; for commas in between 30 and 100 cents in size, see Medium commas; and for commas under 3.5 cents in size, see Unnoticeable commas

Due to the wide range of sizes, cents values here and on the other commas pages are listed to 5 significant digits, instead of to a fixed number of decimal places as is the convention elsewhere on the wiki.

List of commas, by prime limit

3-limit commas

Name(s) Color Name Ratio Monzo Cents
Pythagorean comma lalawa comma

or wa comma

LLw-2 531441 / 524288 [-19 12⟩ 23.46
41-comma wa-41 comma s6w5 36893488147419103232 /
36472996377170786403 		[65 -41⟩ 19.845
200-comma, Pythagorean integer cents comma wa-200 comma w-200 [317 -200⟩ 8.9998
Mercator's comma, 53-comma wa-53 comma L8w-6 19383245667680019896796723 /
19342813113834066795298816 		[-84 53⟩ 3.615
51-Pythagorean comma | -970 612 > 3.5395

5-limit commas

Name(s) Color Name Ratio Monzo Cents
small diesis, magic comma Laquinyo Ly5-2 3125 / 3072 [-10 -1 5⟩ 29.614
11-15-comma, hendecatonic comma Trisa-legu s3g115 8796093022208 / 8649755859375 [43 -11 -11⟩ 29.044
minimal diesis, tetracot comma Saquadyo sy41 20000 / 19683 [5 -9 4⟩ 27.660
semaja Lalaneyo LLy19-5 19073486328125 / 18786186952704 [-33 -7 19⟩ 26.276
quanic comma Sepsa-quinyo s7y55 [74 -54 5⟩ 25.999
roda Sasa-triyo ssy32 131072000 / 129140163 [20 -17 3⟩ 25.706
trisedodge comma Saquintrigu sg154 30958682112 / 30517578125 [19 10 -15⟩ 24.844
maja Saseyo sy17-3 762939453125 / 753145430616 [-3 -23 17⟩ 22.368
satin comma Quinbisa-triyo s10y37 [104 -70 3⟩ 22.091
misneb Quadla-quintriyo L4y15-6 [-57 14 15⟩ 22.076
syntonic / Didymos / meantone comma Gu or Meantone g1 81 / 80 [-4 4 -1⟩ 21.506
maquila comma Trisa-segu s3g176 562949953421312 / 556182861328125 [49 -6 -17⟩ 20.937
diaschisma Sagugu sgg2 2048 / 2025 [11 -4 -2⟩ 19.553
countermeantone comma Quinquadgu g204 96402615118848 / 95367431640625 [10 23 -20⟩ 18.691
ditonma Lala-theyo LLy13-4 1220703125 / 1207959552 [-27 -2 13⟩ 18.168
misty comma Sasa-trigu ssg33 67108864 / 66430125 [26 -12 -3⟩ 17.599
pental comma Trila-quingu L3g5-2 847288609443 / 838860800000 [-28 25 -5⟩ 17.306
undim comma Trisa-quadgu s3g44 2199023255552 / 2179240250625 [41 -20 -4⟩ 15.645
graviton, gravity comma Lala-tribigu LLg61 129140163 / 128000000 [-13 17 -6⟩ 15.353
majvam Sasa-lebigu ssg226 [40 7 -22⟩ 14.783
quartonic Saleyo sy11-2 390625000 / 387420489 [3 -18 11⟩ 14.261
untritonic comma Quadla-tritriyo L4y9-5 [-51 19 9⟩ 13.968
medium semicomma, sensipent comma Sepgu g72 78732 / 78125 [2 9 -7⟩ 13.399
tertiosec comma Laquadtribiyo L6y24-9 [-89 21 24⟩ 12.584
Würschmidt comma Saquadbigu sg83 393216 / 390625 [17 1 -8⟩ 11.445
counterhanson comma Quinquinyo y25-5 [-20 -24 25⟩ 10.923
semicomma, Fokker comma Lasepyo Ly7-3 2109375 / 2097152 [-21 3 7⟩ 10.061
escapade comma Sasa-tritrigu ssg94 4294967296 / 4271484375 [32 -7 -9⟩ 9.4916
kleisma, semicomma majeur Tribiyo y6-2 15625 / 15552 [-6 -5 6⟩ 8.1073
qintosec comma Quadsa-quinbigu s4g105 140737488355328 / 140126044921875 [47 -15 -10⟩ 7.5378
59-5-comma [137 0 -59⟩ 7.4909
unidecma Laquadtrigu Lg122 31381059609 / 31250000000 [-7 22 -12⟩ 7.2455
mutt comma Trila-septriyo L3y21-6 476837158203125 / 474989023199232 [-44 -3 21⟩ 6.7230
amity comma Saquinyo sy51 1600000 / 1594323 [9 -13 5⟩ 6.1536
parakleisma Thegu g133 1224440064 / 1220703125 [8 14 -13⟩ 5.2917
gammic comma Laquinquadyo Ly20-5 95367431640625 / 95105071448064 [-29 -11 20⟩ 4.7693
squarschmidt comma Quadsa-twenty-negu s4g298 [61 4 -29⟩ 4.7223
Huntian 15-cycle comma Quadtrisa-forty-thegu s12g4316 [168 -43 -43⟩ 4.4453
56-syntonic comma Quadtribila-sepquadbigu L24g56-8 [-225 224 -56⟩ 4.3522
vulture comma Sasa-quadyo ssy42 10485760000 / 10460353203 [24 -21 4⟩ 4.1998
lafa comma Tribisa-quadtrigu s6g127 [77 -31 -12⟩ 3.6304

7-limit commas

Name(s) Color Name Ratio Monzo Cents
senga Trizo-agugu z3gg3 686 / 675 [1 -3 -2 3⟩ 27.985
23-21-comma Sepla-twentythezo L7z237 [-101 23 0 23⟩ 27.961
septimal / Archytas' comma, Leipziger Komma Ru r1 64 / 63 [6 -2 0 -1⟩ 27.264
mandos Birugugu rrg41 31104 / 30625 [7 5 -4 -2⟩ 26.868
33-7/5-comma [-16 0 -33 33⟩ 22.902
Huntian 35-cycle comma [277 0 -54 -54⟩ 22.461
blackjackisma Lasepru-aquadbiyo Lr7y8-6 854296875 / 843308032 [-10 7 8 -7⟩ 22.413
squalentine Laquadzo-atrigu Lz4g33 64827 / 64000 [-9 3 -3 4⟩ 22.227
keema Zotriyo zy31 875 / 864 [-5 -3 3 1⟩ 21.902
gariboh Triru-aquinyo r3y5-3 3125 / 3087 [0 -2 5 -3⟩ 21.181
nuwell Quadru-ayo r4y-3 2430 / 2401 [1 5 1 -4⟩ 20.785
small quadruple bluish Saquadzogu sz4g44 153664 / 151875 [6 -5 -4 4⟩ 20.274
tolerma Sazoyoyo szyy2 179200 / 177147 [10 -11 2 1⟩ 19.948
25-36/35-comma, icosipentatonic comma Quinquinrugu r25g25-8 [49 50 -25 -25⟩ 19.26
Huntian 21-cycle comma [123 -28 0 -28⟩ 18.135
mirwomo Labizoyo Lzzyy1 33075 / 32768 [-15 3 2 2⟩ 16.144
trimyna Quinzogu z5g54 50421 / 50000 [-4 1 -5 5⟩ 14.516
sensamagic Zozoyo zzy2 245 / 243 [0 -5 1 2⟩ 14.191
septimal semicomma, starling comma Zotrigu zg32 126 / 125 [1 2 -3 1⟩ 13.795
slendro 34-comma [-137 -34 0 68⟩ 13.692
octagar Rurutriyo rry3-2 4000 / 3969 [5 -4 3 -2⟩ 13.469
orwellisma, orwell comma Triru-agu r3g-2 1728 / 1715 [6 3 -1 -3⟩ 13.074
35-7/5-comma [17 0 35 -35⟩ 12.073
218edo (stacked 7/4 and 10/9) comma Trisa-triru-aquadquadyo s3r3y16-3 640000000000000000 / 635585924776181463 [22 -32 16 -3⟩ 11.982
34-jubilismic comma Sequadzogu z68g6842 [-33 0 -68 68⟩ 10.829
Hunt 7-cycle comma [73 0 0 -26⟩ 10.526
31-35-comma [-159 0 31 31⟩ 9.3282
quince Lasepzo-agugu Lz7gg4 823543 / 819200 [-15 0 -2 7⟩ 9.1539
gamelisma Latrizo Lz32 1029 / 1024 [-10 1 0 3⟩ 8.4327
varunisma Labizogugu Lzzg42 321489 / 320000 [-9 8 -4 2⟩ 8.037
septimal kleisma, marvel comma Ruyoyo ryy-2 225 / 224 [-5 2 2 -1⟩ 7.7115
dimcomp Quadruyoyo r4y8-4 390625 / 388962 [-1 -4 8 -4⟩ 7.3861
cataharry Labirugu Lrrgg-2 19683 / 19600 [-4 9 -2 -2⟩ 7.3158
mirkwai Quinru-aquadyo r5y4-4 16875 / 16807 [0 3 4 -5⟩ 6.9903
stearnsma Latribiru Lr6-4 118098 / 117649 [1 10 0 -6⟩ 6.5946
hemimage Satrizo-agu sz3g3 10976 / 10935 [5 -7 -1 3⟩ 6.479
hemimean Zozoquingu zzg53 3136 / 3125 [6 0 -5 2⟩ 6.0832
hemifamity Saruyo sry1 5120 / 5103 [10 -6 1 -1⟩ 5.7578
linus comma Saquinbizogu sz10g108 578509309952 / 576650390625 [11 -10 -10 10⟩ 5.5719
porwell Sarurutrigu srrg31 6144 / 6125 [11 1 -3 -2⟩ 5.362
garischisma Sasaru ssr2 33554432 / 33480783 [25 -14 0 -1⟩ 3.8041
wadisma Latritrizo-ayo Lz9y4 201768035 / 201326592 [-26 -1 1 9⟩ 3.7919
quasiorwellisma Sazoquinbigu szg104 29360128 / 29296875 [22 -1 -10 1⟩ 3.7338

11-limit commas

Name(s) Color Name Ratio Monzo Cents
thuja comma Saquinlu-ayo s1u5y2 163840 / 161051 [15 0 1 0 -5⟩ 29.724
sensmus Salozogu s1ozg2 1232 / 1215 [4 -5 -1 1 1⟩ 24.055
sevnothrush Loquingu 1og52 3168 / 3125 [5 2 -5 0 1⟩ 23.659
cassacot Biluzo-ayo 1uuzzy2 245 / 242 [-1 0 1 2 -2⟩ 21.330
mothwellsma Loruru 1orr-2 99 / 98 [-1 2 0 -2 1⟩ 17.576
ptolemisma Luyoyo 1uyy1 100 / 99 [2 -2 2 0 -1⟩ 17.399
hemimin Trilu-azo 1u3z2 1344 / 1331 [6 1 0 1 -3⟩ 16.827
biyatisma Lologu 1oog1 121 / 120 [-3 -1 -1 0 2⟩ 14.367
aphrowe Trilo-aruru 1o3rr-2 1331 / 1323 [0 -3 0 -2 3⟩ 10.437
valinorsma Lorugugu 1orgg1 176 / 175 [4 0 -2 -1 1⟩ 9.8646
pentacircle Saluzo s1uz2 896 / 891 [7 -4 0 1 -1⟩ 9.688
orgonisma Satrilu-aruru s1u3rr1 65536 / 65219 [16 0 0 -2 -3⟩ 8.3944
quindecic comma Sasaquintriloru ss1o15r15-8 [14 -15 0 -15 15⟩ 8.0555
rastma Lulu 1uu1 243 / 242 [-1 5 0 0 -2⟩ 7.1391
myhemiwell Lolozotrigu 1oozg32 3388 / 3375 [2 -3 -3 1 2⟩ 6.6556
octatonic comma Quadbilu 1u82 214990848 / 214358881 [15 8 0 0 -8⟩ 5.0965
keenanisma Lozoyo 1ozy1 385 / 384 [-7 -1 1 1 1⟩ 4.5026
werckisma Luzozogu 1uzzg2 441 / 440 [-3 2 -1 2 -1⟩ 3.9302
moctdel Lotriruyo 1or3y3-3 1375 / 1372 [-2 0 3 -3 1⟩ 3.7814

13-limit commas

Name(s) Color Name Ratio Monzo Cents
wilsorma Thoyo 3oy1 65 / 64 [-6 0 1 0 0 1⟩ 26.841
winmeanma Thulogu 3u1og1 66 / 65 [1 1 -1 0 1 -1⟩ 26.432
negustma Tholuru 3o1ur1 78 / 77 [1 1 0 -1 -1 1⟩ 22.339
superleap Thozogu 3ozg2 91 / 90 [-1 -2 -1 1 0 1⟩ 19.130
animist Thuzoyo 3uzy1 105 / 104 [-3 1 1 1 0 -1⟩ 16.567
secorian Sathuzo s3uz2 28672 / 28431 [12 -7 0 1 0 -1⟩ 14.613
mosaic Lathoruru L3orr-2 3159 / 3136 [-6 5 0 -2 0 1⟩ 12.651
gassorma Thuloruyoyo 3u1oryy-2 275 / 273 [0 -1 2 -1 1 -1⟩ 12.637
grossma Thulu 3u1u1 144 / 143 [4 2 0 0 -1 -1⟩ 12.064
buzurgisma, dhanvantarisma Thothoru 3oor1 169 / 168 [-3 -1 0 -1 0 2⟩ 10.274
catadictma Thologu 3o1og1 1287 / 1280 [-8 2 -1 0 1 1⟩ 9.4419
mynucuma Thuzozogu 3uzzg2 196 / 195 [2 -1 -1 2 0 -1⟩ 8.8554
huntma, nelindic comma Thururuyo 3urry-2 640 / 637 [7 0 1 -2 0 -1⟩ 8.1342
threedie Satritho s3o32 2197 / 2187 [0 -7 0 0 0 3⟩ 7.8980
kestrel comma Thuthuloru 3uu1or-2 1188 / 1183 [2 3 0 -1 1 -2⟩ 7.3017
marveltwin Thoyoyo 3oyy1 325 / 324 [-2 -4 2 0 0 1⟩ 5.3351
Hunt 13-cycle comma Laquinbitho L3o102 137858491849 / 137438953472 [-37 0 0 0 0 10⟩ 5.2766
ratwolfsma Thorugugu 3orgg1 351 / 350 [-1 3 -2 -1 0 1⟩ 4.9393
minthma Thulo 3u1o1 352 / 351 [5 -3 0 0 1 -1⟩ 4.9253
gentle comma Tholuluzo 3o1uuz2 364 / 363 [2 -1 0 1 -2 1⟩ 4.7627
cuthbert Bithulo-azogu 3uu1oozg1 847 / 845 [0 0 -1 1 2 -2⟩ 4.0928

17-limit commas

Name(s) Color Name Ratio Monzo Cents
soruyo unison Soruyo 17ory1 85 / 84 [-2 -1 1 -1 0 0 1⟩ 20.488
lum comma Sosothulu 17oo3u1u2 289 / 286 | -1 0 0 0 -1 -1 2 > 18.065
mey comma Sutritho 17u3u31 2197 / 2176 | -7 0 0 0 0 3 -1 > 16.628
Hunt flat 2 comma Laso L17o1 4131 / 4096 [-12 5 0 0 0 0 1⟩ 14.73
suruyo comma Suruyo 17ury-2 120 / 119 [3 1 1 -1 0 0 -1⟩ 14.487
23 semitone comma [-94 0 0 0 0 0 23⟩ 13.974
sothuthuyo unison Sothuthuyo 17o3uuy1 170/169 [1 0 1 0 0 -2 1⟩ 10.214
Blume comma Sololo 17o1oo1 2057 / 2048 [-11 0 0 0 2 0 1⟩ 7.5913
septendecimal kleisma Sugu 17ug1 256 / 255 [8 -1 -1 0 0 0 -1⟩ 6.7759
tannisma Suthozo 17u3oz1 273 / 272 [-4 1 0 1 0 1 -1⟩ 6.3532
septendecimal integer cents comma Soso 17oo2 289 / 288 [-5 -2 0 0 0 0 2⟩ 6.0008
17-ripple integer cents comma [327 0 0 0 0 0 -80⟩ 3.5672

19-limit commas

Name(s) Color Name Ratio Monzo Cents
nuruyo comma Nuruyo 19ury-2 135 / 133 [0 3 1 -1 0 0 0 -1⟩ 25.84
nogugu 2nd Nogugu 19ogg2 76 / 75 [2 -1 -2 0 0 0 0 1⟩ 22.931
nulozo unison (approximation to the adjacent step of 53edo) Nulozo 19u1oz1 77 / 76 [-2 0 0 1 1 0 0 -1⟩ 22.631
19th-partial chroma Nugu 19ug1 96 / 95 [5 1 -1 0 0 0 0 -1⟩ 18.128
ume comma Nutriso 19u17o32 4913 / 4864 | -8 0 0 0 0 0 3 -1 > 17.353
noluzo 2nd Noluzo 19o1uz2 133 / 132 [-2 -1 0 1 -1 0 0 1⟩ 13.066
Ganassi's comma Nuso 19u17o1 153 / 152 [-3 2 0 0 0 0 1 -1⟩ 11.352
nosugu unison Nosugu 19o17ug1 171 / 170 [-1 2 -1 0 0 0 -1 1⟩ 10.154
eye comma Nusosolulu 19u17oo1uu2 2312 / 2299 | 3 0 0 0 -2 0 2 -1 > 9.7619
Hunt 19-cycle comma Saquadnu s19u4-2 131072 / 130321 [17 0 0 0 0 0 0 -4⟩ 9.9479
binulo comma Binulo 19uu1oo-2 363 / 361 [0 1 0 0 2 0 0 -2⟩ 9.5649
yama comma Nothulo 19o3u1o1 209 / 208 [-4 0 0 0 1 -1 0 1⟩ 8.3033
spleen comma Nuluzoyo 19u1uzy1 210 / 209 [1 1 1 1 -1 0 0 -1⟩ 8.2637
nuthologu comma Nuthologu 19u3o1og1 286 / 285 [1 -1 -1 0 1 1 0 -1⟩ 6.0639
nusu comma Nusu 19u17u-2 324 / 323 [2 4 0 0 0 0 -1 -1⟩ 5.3516
go comma Nonogu 19oog2 361 / 360 [-3 -2 -1 0 0 0 0 2⟩ 4.8023
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