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{{Infobox MOS | {{Infobox MOS | ||
| | |Tuning=5L 3s<15/7> | ||
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{{MOS intro|Scale Signature=5L 3s<15/7>}} | |||
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5L 3s | Any ed15/7 with an interval between 494.8¢ and 527.8¢ has a 5L 3s scale. [[13ed15/7]] is the smallest ed15/7 with a (non-degenerate) 5L 3s scale and thus is the most commonly used 5L 3s tuning. | ||
==Standing assumptions== | ==Standing assumptions== | ||
The [[TAMNAMS]] system is used in this article to name 5L 3s intervals and step size ratios and step ratio ranges. | The [[TAMNAMS]] system is used in this article to name 5L 3s<15/7> intervals and step size ratios and step ratio ranges. | ||
The notation used in this article is G Mixolydian Mediant (LLsLLsLs) = GABCQDEFG, unless specified otherwise. We denote raising and lowering by a chroma (L − s) by # and f "flat (F molle)". | The notation used in this article is G Mixolydian Mediant (LLsLLsLs) = GABCQDEFG, unless specified otherwise. We denote raising and lowering by a chroma (L − s) by # and f "flat (F molle)". | ||
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The chain of perfect 4ths becomes: ... Ef Af Qf Ff Bf Df G C E A Q F B D ... | The chain of perfect 4ths becomes: ... Ef Af Qf Ff Bf Df G C E A Q F B D ... | ||
Thus the [[ | Thus the [[13ed15/7]] gamut is as follows: | ||
'''G/F#''' G#/Af '''A''' A#/Bf '''B/Cf''' '''C/B#''' C#/Qf '''Q''' Q#/Df '''D/Ef E/D#''' E#/Ff '''F/Gf G''' | '''G/F#''' G#/Af '''A''' A#/Bf '''B/Cf''' '''C/B#''' C#/Qf '''Q''' Q#/Df '''D/Ef E/D#''' E#/Ff '''F/Gf G''' | ||
The | The [[18ed15/7]] gamut is notated as follows: | ||
'''G''' F#/Af G# '''A''' Bf A#/Cf '''B''' '''C''' B#/Qf C# '''Q''' Df Q#/Ef '''D E''' D#/Ff E#/Gf '''F G''' | '''G''' F#/Af G# '''A''' Bf A#/Cf '''B''' '''C''' B#/Qf C# '''Q''' Df Q#/Ef '''D E''' D#/Ff E#/Gf '''F G''' | ||
The | The [[21ed15/7]] gamut: | ||
'''G''' G# Af '''A''' A# Bf '''B''' B#/Cf '''C''' C# Qf '''Q''' Q# Df '''D''' D#/Ef '''E''' E# Ff '''F''' F#/Gf '''G''' | '''G''' G# Af '''A''' A# Bf '''B''' B#/Cf '''C''' C# Qf '''Q''' Q# Df '''D''' D#/Ef '''E''' E# Ff '''F''' F#/Gf '''G''' | ||
==Names== | ==Names== | ||
The | The author suggests the name '''Neapolitan'''-'''oneirotonic'''. | ||
==Intervals== | ==Intervals== | ||
The table of Neapolitan-oneirotonic intervals below takes the fourth as the generator. Given the size of the fourth generator ''g'', any oneirotonic interval can easily be found by noting what multiple of ''g'' it is, and multiplying the size by the number ''k'' of generators it takes to reach the interval | The table of Neapolitan-oneirotonic intervals below takes the fourth as the generator. Given the size of the fourth generator ''g'', any oneirotonic interval can easily be found by noting what multiple of ''g'' it is, and multiplying the size by the number ''k'' of generators it takes to reach the interval. | ||
{| class="wikitable center-all" | {| class="wikitable center-all" | ||
|- | |- | ||
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!In L's and s's | !In L's and s's | ||
!# generators up | !# generators up | ||
!Notation of | !Notation of 15/7 inverse | ||
!name | !name | ||
!In L's and s's | !In L's and s's | ||
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|1L + 2s | |1L + 2s | ||
|- | |- | ||
| colspan="8" |The chromatic 13-note MOS (either [[5L 8s ( | | colspan="8" |The chromatic 13-note MOS (either [[5L 8s (15/7-equivalent)|5L 8s]], [[8L 5s (15/7-equivalent)|8L 5s]], or [[13ed15/7]]) also has the following intervals (from some root): | ||
|- | |- | ||
|8 | |8 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! class="unsortable" |Degree | ! class="unsortable" |Degree | ||
!Size in | !Size in [[13ed15/7]] (basic) | ||
!Size in | !Size in [[18ed15/7]] (hard) | ||
!Size in | !Size in [[21ed15/7]] (soft) | ||
! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ||
!#Gens up | !#Gens up | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|minor 2nd | |minor 2nd | ||
|1\13, | |1\13, 101.496 | ||
|1\18, | |1\18, 73.302 | ||
|2\21, | |2\21, 125.661 | ||
|Af | |Af | ||
| -5 | | -5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|major 2nd | |major 2nd | ||
|2\13, | |2\13, 202.991 | ||
|3\18, | |3\18, 219.907 | ||
|3\21, | |3\21, 188.492 | ||
|A | |A | ||
| +3 | | +3 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|minor 3rd | |minor 3rd | ||
|3\13, | |3\13, 304.487 | ||
|4\18, | |4\18, 293.210 | ||
|5\21, | |5\21, 314.153 | ||
|Bf | |Bf | ||
| -2 | | -2 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 3rd | |major 3rd | ||
| rowspan="2" |4\13, | | rowspan="2" |4\13, 405.982 | ||
|6\18, | |6\18, 439.814 | ||
|6\21, | |6\21, 376.984 | ||
|B | |B | ||
| +6 | | +6 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|diminished 4th | |diminished 4th | ||
|5\18, | |5\18, 366.511 | ||
|7\21, | |7\21, 439.814 | ||
|Cf | |Cf | ||
| -7 | | -7 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|natural 4th | |natural 4th | ||
|5\13, | |5\13, 507.478 | ||
|7\18, | |7\18, 513.117 | ||
|8\21, | |8\21, 502.645 | ||
|C | |C | ||
| +1 | | +1 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|diminished 5th | |diminished 5th | ||
|8\18, | |6\13, 608.974 | ||
|10\21, | |8\18, 586.419 | ||
|10\21, 628.306 | |||
|Qf | |Qf | ||
| -4 | | -4 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|perfect 5th | |perfect 5th | ||
|7\13, | |7\13, 710.469 | ||
|10\18, | |10\18, 733.024 | ||
|11\31, | |11\31, 691.137 | ||
|Q | |Q | ||
| +4 | | +4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|minor 6th | |minor 6th | ||
|8\13, | |8\13, 811.965 | ||
|11\18, | |11\18, 806.326 | ||
|13\21, | |13\21, 816.798 | ||
|Df | |Df | ||
| -1 | | -1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|major 6th | |major 6th | ||
| rowspan="2" |9\13, | | rowspan="2" |9\13, 913.460 | ||
|13\18, | |13\18, 952.931 | ||
|14\21, | |14\21, 879.629 | ||
|D | |D | ||
| +7 | | +7 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|minor 7th | |minor 7th | ||
|12\18, | |12\18, 879.629 | ||
|15\21, | |15\21, 942.459 | ||
|Ef | |Ef | ||
| -6 | | -6 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 7th | |major 7th | ||
|10\13, | |10\13, 1014.956 | ||
|14\18, | |14\18, 1026.233 | ||
|16\21, | |16\21, 1005.290 | ||
|E | |E | ||
| +2 | | +2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|diminished octave | |diminished octave | ||
|11\13, | |11\13, 1116.452 | ||
|15\18, | |15\18, 1099.536 | ||
|18\21, | |18\21, 1130.951 | ||
|Ff | |Ff | ||
| -3 | | -3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|perfect octave | |perfect octave | ||
|12\13, | |12\13, 1217.942 | ||
|17\18, | |17\18, 1246.140 | ||
|19\21, | |19\21, 1193.782 | ||
|F | |F | ||
| +5 | | +5 | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Hypohard=== | ===Hypohard=== | ||
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**The large step is near the Pythagorean 9/8 whole tone, somewhere between as in [[12edo]] and as in [[17edo]]. | **The large step is near the Pythagorean 9/8 whole tone, somewhere between as in [[12edo]] and as in [[17edo]]. | ||
**The major 3rd (made of two large steps) is a near-[[Pythagorean]] to [[Neogothic]] major third. | **The major 3rd (made of two large steps) is a near-[[Pythagorean]] to [[Neogothic]] major third. | ||
EDIXs that are in the hypohard range include [[ | EDIXs that are in the hypohard range include [[13ed15/7]], [[18ed15/7]], and 31ed15/7. | ||
The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various hypohard Neapolitan-oneiro tunings. | The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various hypohard Neapolitan-oneiro tunings. | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! | ! | ||
![[ | ![[13ed15/7]] (basic) | ||
! | ![[18ed15/7]] (hard) | ||
! | !31ed15/7 (semihard) | ||
|- | |- | ||
|generator (g) | |generator (g) | ||
|5\13, | |5\13, 507.478 | ||
|7\18, | |7\18, 513.117 | ||
|12\31, | |12\31, 510.752 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|L (3g - minor 9th) | |L (3g - minor 9th) | ||
|2\13, | |2\13, 202.991 | ||
|3\18, | |3\18, 219.907 | ||
|5\31, | |5\31, 212.813 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths) | |s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths) | ||
|1\13, | |1\13, 101.496 | ||
|1\18, | |1\18, 73.302 | ||
|2\31, | |2\31, 85.125 | ||
|} | |} | ||
====Intervals==== | ====Intervals==== | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! class="unsortable" |Degree | ! class="unsortable" |Degree | ||
!Size in | !Size in [[13ed15/7]] (basic) | ||
!Size in | !Size in [[18ed15/7]] (hard) | ||
!Size in | !Size in 31ed15/7 (semihard) | ||
! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ||
! class="unsortable" |Approximate ratios | ! class="unsortable" |Approximate ratios | ||
!#Gens up | !#Gens up | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|minor 2nd | |minor 2nd | ||
|1\13, | |1\13, 101.496 | ||
|1\18, | |1\18, 73.302 | ||
|2\31, | |2\31, 85.125 | ||
|Af | |Af | ||
|21/20, ''22/21'' | |21/20, ''22/21'' | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|major 2nd | |major 2nd | ||
|2\13, | |2\13, 202.991 | ||
|3\18, | |3\18, 219.907 | ||
|5\31, | |5\31, 212.813 | ||
|A | |A | ||
|9/8 | |9/8 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|minor 3rd | |minor 3rd | ||
|3\13, | |3\13, 304.487 | ||
|4\18, | |4\18, 293.210 | ||
|7\31, | |7\31, 297.939 | ||
|Bf | |Bf | ||
|13/11, 33/28 | |13/11, 33/28 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 3rd | |major 3rd | ||
| rowspan="2" |4\13, | | rowspan="2" |4\13, 405.982 | ||
|6\18, | |6\18, 439.814 | ||
|10\31, | |10\31, 425.626 | ||
|B | |B | ||
|14/11, 33/26 | |14/11, 33/26 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|diminished 4th | |diminished 4th | ||
|5\18, | |5\18, 366.511 | ||
|9\31, | |9\31, 383.064 | ||
|Cf | |Cf | ||
|''5/4, 11/9'' | |''5/4, 11/9'' | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|natural 4th | |natural 4th | ||
|5\13, | |5\13, 507.478 | ||
|7\18, | |7\18, 513.117 | ||
|12\31, | |12\31, 510.752 | ||
|C | |C | ||
|4/3 | |4/3 | ||
| +1 | | +1 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|diminished 5th | |diminished 5th | ||
|8\18, | |6\13, 608.974 | ||
|14\31, | |8\18, 586.419 | ||
|14\31, 595.877 | |||
|Qf | |Qf | ||
|''7/5, 13/9'', ''16/11'' | |''7/5, 13/9'', ''16/11'' | ||
| -4 | | -4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|perfect 5th | |perfect 5th | ||
|7\13, | |7\13, 710.469 | ||
|10\18, | |10\18, 733.024 | ||
|17\31, | |17\31, 723.565 | ||
|Q | |Q | ||
|3/2 | |3/2 | ||
| +4 | | +4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|minor 6th | |minor 6th | ||
|8\13, | |8\13, 811.965 | ||
|11\18, | |11\18, 806.326 | ||
|19\31, | |19\31, 808.691 | ||
|Df | |Df | ||
|52/33, 11/7 | |52/33, 11/7 | ||
| -1 | | -1 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 6th | |major 6th | ||
| rowspan="2" |9\13, | | rowspan="2" |9\13, 913.460 | ||
|13\18, | |13\18, 952.931 | ||
|22\31, | |22\31, 936.379 | ||
|D | |D | ||
|56/33, 22/17 | |56/33, 22/17 | ||
| +7 | | +7 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|minor 7th | |minor 7th | ||
|12\18, | |12\18, 879.629 | ||
|21\31, | |21\31, 893.816 | ||
|Ef | |Ef | ||
|5/3, 18/11 | |5/3, 18/11 | ||
| -6 | | -6 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|major 7th | |major 7th | ||
|10\13, | |10\13, 1014.956 | ||
|14\18, | |14\18, 1026.233 | ||
|24\31, | |24\31, 1021.04 | ||
|E | |E | ||
|16/9 | |16/9 | ||
| +2 | | +2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|diminished octave | |diminished octave | ||
|11\13, | |11\13, 1116.452 | ||
|15\18, | |15\18, 1099.536 | ||
|26\31, | |26\31, 1106.629 | ||
|Ff | |Ff | ||
|11/6, 13/7, 15/8 | |11/6, 13/7, 15/8 | ||
| -3 | | -3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|perfect octave | |perfect octave | ||
|12\13, | |12\13, 1217.942 | ||
|17\18, | |17\18, 1246.140 | ||
|29\31, | |29\31, 1234.317 | ||
|F | |F | ||
|2/1 | |2/1 | ||
| +5 | | +5 | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Hyposoft=== | ===Hyposoft=== | ||
[[Hyposoft]] Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings (with generator between 8\21 and 5\13) have step ratios between 3/2 and 2/1. The 8\21-to-5\13 range of Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings can be considered "meantone Neapolitan-oneirotonic”. This is because these tunings share the following features with meantone diatonic tunings: | [[Hyposoft]] Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings (with generator between 8\21 and 5\13) have step ratios between 3/2 and 2/1. The 8\21-to-5\13 range of Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings can be considered "meantone Neapolitan-oneirotonic”. This is because these tunings share the following features with meantone diatonic tunings: | ||
*The large step is between near the meantone and near the Pythagorean 9/8 whole tone, somewhere between as in [[19edo]] and as in [[ | *The large step is between near the meantone and near the Pythagorean 9/8 whole tone, somewhere between as in [[19edo]] and as in [[12edo]]. | ||
*The major 3rd (made of two large steps) is a near-[[Just intonation|just]] to near-[[Pythagorean]] major third. | *The major 3rd (made of two large steps) is a near-[[Just intonation|just]] to near-[[Pythagorean]] major third. | ||
The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various hyposoft Neapolitan-oneiro tunings ( | The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various hyposoft Neapolitan-oneiro tunings ([[13ed15/7]] not shown). | ||
{| class="wikitable right-2 right-3 right-4 right-5" | {| class="wikitable right-2 right-3 right-4 right-5" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! | ||
! | ![[21ed15/7]] (soft) | ||
! | !34ed15/7 (semisoft) | ||
|- | |- | ||
|generator (g) | |generator (g) | ||
|8\21, | |8\21, 502.645 | ||
|13\34, | |13\34, 504.493 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|L (3g - minor 9th) | |L (3g - minor 9th) | ||
|3\21, | |3\21, 188.492 | ||
|5\34, | |5\34, 194.036 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths) | |s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths) | ||
|2\ | |2\21, 125.661 | ||
|3\34, 116. | |3\34, 116.421 | ||
|} | |} | ||
====Intervals==== | ====Intervals==== | ||
Sortable table of major and minor intervals in hyposoft tunings (13edIX not shown): | Sortable table of major and minor intervals in hyposoft tunings ([[13edIX|13ed15/7]] not shown): | ||
{| class="wikitable right-2 right-3 sortable" | {| class="wikitable right-2 right-3 sortable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! class="unsortable" |Degree | ! class="unsortable" |Degree | ||
!Size in | !Size in [[21ed15/7]] (soft) | ||
!Size in | !Size in 34ed15/7 (semisoft) | ||
! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ||
! class="unsortable" |Approximate ratios | ! class="unsortable" |Approximate ratios | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|minor 2nd | |minor 2nd | ||
|2\21, | |2\21, 125.661 | ||
|3\34, 116. | |3\34, 116.421 | ||
|Af | |Af | ||
|16/15 | |16/15 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|major 2nd | |major 2nd | ||
|3\21, | |3\21, 188.492 | ||
|5\34, | |5\34, 194.036 | ||
|A | |A | ||
|10/9, 9/8 | |10/9, 9/8 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|minor 3rd | |minor 3rd | ||
|5\21, | |5\21, 314.153 | ||
|8\34, | |8\34, 310.457 | ||
|Bf | |Bf | ||
|6/5 | |6/5 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 3rd | |major 3rd | ||
|6\21, | |6\21, 376.984 | ||
|10\34, | |10\34, 388.071 | ||
|B | |B | ||
|5/4 | |5/4 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|diminished 4th | |diminished 4th | ||
|7\21, | |7\21, 439.814 | ||
|11\34, | |11\34, 426.879 | ||
|Cf | |Cf | ||
|9/7 | |9/7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|natural 4th | |natural 4th | ||
|8\21, | |8\21, 502.645 | ||
|13\34, | |13\34, 504.493 | ||
|C | |C | ||
|4/3 | |4/3 | ||
| +1 | | +1 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|diminished 5th | |diminished 5th | ||
|10\21, | |10\21, 628.306 | ||
|16\34, | |16\34, 620.914 | ||
|Qf | |Qf | ||
|10/6 | |10/6 | ||
| -4 | | -4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|perfect 5th | |perfect 5th | ||
|11\31, | |11\31, 691.137 | ||
|18\34, | |18\34, 698.529 | ||
|Q | |Q | ||
|3/2 | |3/2 | ||
| +4 | | +4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|minor 6th | |minor 6th | ||
|13\21, | |13\21, 816.798 | ||
|21\34, | |21\34, 814.950 | ||
|Df | |Df | ||
|8/5 | |8/5 | ||
| -1 | | -1 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 6th | |major 6th | ||
|14\21, | |14\21, 879.629 | ||
|23\34, | |23\34, 892.564 | ||
|D | |D | ||
|5/3 | |5/3 | ||
| +7 | | +7 | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|minor 7th | |minor 7th | ||
|15\21, | |15\21, 942.459 | ||
|24\34, | |24\34, 931.371 | ||
|Ef | |Ef | ||
|12/7 | |12/7 | ||
| -6 | | -6 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|major 7th | |major 7th | ||
|16\21, | |16\21, 1005.290 | ||
|26\34, | |26\34, 1008.986 | ||
|E | |E | ||
|9/5, 16/9 | |9/5, 16/9 | ||
| +2 | | +2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|diminished octave | |diminished octave | ||
|18\21, | |18\21, 1130.951 | ||
|29\34, | |29\34, 1125.407 | ||
|Ff | |Ff | ||
|27/14, 48/25 | |27/14, 48/25 | ||
| -3 | | -3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|perfect octave | |perfect octave | ||
|19\21, | |19\21, 1193.782 | ||
|31\34, | |31\34, 1203.021 | ||
|F | |F | ||
|2/1 | |2/1 | ||
| +5 | | +5 | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Parasoft to ultrasoft tunings=== | ===Parasoft to ultrasoft tunings=== | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! | ! | ||
! | !29ed15/7 (supersoft) | ||
! | !37ed15/7 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|generator (g) | |generator (g) | ||
|11\29, | |11\29, 500.478 | ||
|14\37, | |14\37, 499.249 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|L (3g - minor 9th) | |L (3g - minor 9th) | ||
|4\29, | |4\29, 181.992 | ||
|5\37, | |5\37, 178.303 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths) | |s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths) | ||
|3\29, | |3\29, 136.494 | ||
|4\37, | |4\37, 142.642 | ||
|} | |} | ||
====Intervals==== | ====Intervals==== | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! class="unsortable" |Degree | ! class="unsortable" |Degree | ||
!Size in | !Size in 29e15/7 (supersoft) | ||
! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ||
! class="unsortable" |Approximate ratios | ! class="unsortable" |Approximate ratios | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|chroma | |chroma | ||
|1\29, | |1\29, 45.498 | ||
|G# | |G# | ||
|[[33/32]], [[49/48]], [[36/35]], [[25/24]] | |[[33/32]], [[49/48]], [[36/35]], [[25/24]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|diminished 2nd | |diminished 2nd | ||
|2\29, | |2\29, 90.996 | ||
|Aff | |Aff | ||
|[[21/20]], [[22/21]], [[26/25]] | |[[21/20]], [[22/21]], [[26/25]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|minor 2nd | |minor 2nd | ||
|3\29, | |3\29, 136.494 | ||
|Af | |Af | ||
|[[12/11]], [[13/12]], [[14/13]], [[16/15]] | |[[12/11]], [[13/12]], [[14/13]], [[16/15]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|major 2nd | |major 2nd | ||
|4\29, | |4\29, 181.992 | ||
|A | |A | ||
|[[9/8]], [[10/9]], [[11/10]] | |[[9/8]], [[10/9]], [[11/10]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|augmented 2nd | |augmented 2nd | ||
|5\29, | |5\29, 227.490 | ||
|A# | |A# | ||
|[[8/7]], [[15/13]] | |[[8/7]], [[15/13]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|diminished 3rd | |diminished 3rd | ||
|6\29, | |6\29, 272.988 | ||
|Bff | |Bff | ||
|[[7/6]], [[13/11]], [[33/28]] | |[[7/6]], [[13/11]], [[33/28]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|minor 3rd | |minor 3rd | ||
|7\29, | |7\29, 318.486 | ||
|Bf | |Bf | ||
|[[135/112]], [[6/5]] | |[[135/112]], [[6/5]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 3rd | |major 3rd | ||
|8\29, | |8\29, 363.984 | ||
|B | |B | ||
|[[5/4]], [[11/9]], [[16/13]] | |[[5/4]], [[11/9]], [[16/13]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|augmented 3rd | |augmented 3rd | ||
|9\29, | |9\29, 409.482 | ||
|B# | |B# | ||
|[[9/7]], [[14/11]], [[33/26]] | |[[9/7]], [[14/11]], [[33/26]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|diminished 4th | |diminished 4th | ||
|10\29, | |10\29, 454.980 | ||
|Cf | |Cf | ||
|[[21/16]], [[13/10]] | |[[21/16]], [[13/10]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|natural 4th | |natural 4th | ||
|11\29, | |11\29, 500.478 | ||
|C | |C | ||
|[[75/56]], [[4/3]] | |[[75/56]], [[4/3]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|augmented 4th | |augmented 4th | ||
|12\29, | |12\29, 545.976 | ||
|C# | |C# | ||
|[[11/8]], [[18/13]] | |[[11/8]], [[18/13]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|doubly augmented 4th, doubly diminished 5th | |doubly augmented 4th, doubly diminished 5th | ||
|13\29, | |13\29, 591.474 | ||
|Cx, Qff | |Cx, Qff | ||
|[[7/5]], [[10/7]] | |[[7/5]], [[10/7]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|diminished 5th | |diminished 5th | ||
|14\29, | |14\29, 636.972 | ||
|Qf | |Qf | ||
|[[16/11]], [[13/9]] | |[[16/11]], [[13/9]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|perfect 5th | |perfect 5th | ||
|15\29, | |15\29, 682.470 | ||
|Q | |Q | ||
|[[112/75]], [[3/2]] | |[[112/75]], [[3/2]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|augmented 5th | |augmented 5th | ||
|16\29, | |16\29, 727.968 | ||
|Q# | |Q# | ||
|[[32/21]], [[20/13]] | |[[32/21]], [[20/13]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|diminished 6th | |diminished 6th | ||
|17\29, | |17\29, 773.466 | ||
|Dff | |Dff | ||
|[[11/7]], [[14/9]] | |[[11/7]], [[14/9]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|minor 6th | |minor 6th | ||
|18\29, | |18\29, 818.965 | ||
|Df | |Df | ||
|[[13/8]], [[8/5]] | |[[13/8]], [[8/5]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|major 6th | |major 6th | ||
|19\29, | |19\29, 864.463 | ||
|D | |D | ||
|[[5/3]], [[224/135]] | |[[5/3]], [[224/135]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|augmented 6th | |augmented 6th | ||
|20\29, | |20\29, 909.961 | ||
|D# | |D# | ||
|[[12/7]], [[22/13]] | |[[12/7]], [[22/13]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|minor 7th | |minor 7th | ||
|21\29, | |21\29, 955.459 | ||
|Ef | |Ef | ||
|[[7/4]], [[26/15]] | |[[7/4]], [[26/15]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 7th | |major 7th | ||
|22\29, | |22\29, 1000.956 | ||
|E | |E | ||
|[[9/5]], [[16/9]], [[20/11]] | |[[9/5]], [[16/9]], [[20/11]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|augmented 7th | |augmented 7th | ||
|23\29, | |23\29, 1046.455 | ||
|E# | |E# | ||
|[[11/6]], [[13/7]], [[15/8]], [[24/13]] | |[[11/6]], [[13/7]], [[15/8]], [[24/13]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|doubly augmented 7th, doubly diminished octave | |doubly augmented 7th, doubly diminished octave | ||
|24\29, | |24\29, 1091.953 | ||
|Ex, Fff | |Ex, Fff | ||
|[[21/11]], [[25/13]], [[40/21]] | |[[21/11]], [[25/13]], [[40/21]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|diminished octave | |diminished octave | ||
|25\29, | |25\29, 1137.451 | ||
|Ff | |Ff | ||
|[[64/33]], [[96/49]], [[35/18]], [[48/25]] | |[[64/33]], [[96/49]], [[35/18]], [[48/25]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|perfect octave | |perfect octave | ||
|26\29, | |26\29, 1182.949 | ||
|F | |F | ||
|2/1 | |2/1 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|augmented octave | |augmented octave | ||
|27\29, | |27\29, 1228.447 | ||
|F# | |F# | ||
|33/16, 49/24, 72/35, 25/12 | |33/16, 49/24, 72/35, 25/12 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|doubly augmented octave, diminished 9th | |doubly augmented octave, diminished 9th | ||
|28\29, | |28\29, 1273.945 | ||
|Fx, Gf | |Fx, Gf | ||
|21/10, 44/21, 52/25 | |21/10, 44/21, 52/25 | ||
| -8 | | -8 | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Parahard=== | ===Parahard=== | ||
23ed15/7 Neapolitan-oneiro combines the sound of the 15/7 minor ninth and the [[8/7]] whole tone. This is because 23ed15/7 Neapolitan-oneirotonic has a large step of 229.5¢. | |||
====Intervals==== | ====Intervals==== | ||
The intervals of the extended generator chain (-12 to +12 generators) are as follows in various Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings close to 23edIX. | The intervals of the extended generator chain (-12 to +12 generators) are as follows in various Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings close to 23edIX. | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! class="unsortable" |Degree | ! class="unsortable" |Degree | ||
!Size in | !Size in 23ed15/7 | ||
(superhard) | (superhard) | ||
! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ! class="unsortable" |Note name on G | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|chroma | |chroma | ||
|3\23, | |3\23, 172.101 | ||
|G# | |G# | ||
|12/11, 11/10, 10/9 | |12/11, 11/10, 10/9 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|minor 2nd | |minor 2nd | ||
|1\23, | |1\23, 57.367 | ||
|Af | |Af | ||
|[[36/35]], [[34/33]], [[33/32]], [[32/31]] | |[[36/35]], [[34/33]], [[33/32]], [[32/31]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|major 2nd | |major 2nd | ||
|4\23, | |4\23, 229.468 | ||
|A | |A | ||
|[[9/8]], [[17/15]], [[8/7]] | |[[9/8]], [[17/15]], [[8/7]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|aug. 2nd | |aug. 2nd | ||
|7\23, | |7\23, 401.570 | ||
|A# | |A# | ||
|5/4 | |5/4 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|dim. 3rd | |dim. 3rd | ||
|2\23, | |2\23, 114.734 | ||
|Bf | |Bf | ||
|16/15 | |16/15 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|minor 3rd | |minor 3rd | ||
|5\23, | |5\23, 286.835 | ||
|B | |B | ||
|7/6 | |7/6 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 3rd | |major 3rd | ||
|8\23, | |8\23, 458.937 | ||
|B# | |B# | ||
|9/7, 14/11 | |9/7, 14/11 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|dim. 4th | |dim. 4th | ||
|6\23, | |6\23, 344.202 | ||
|Cf | |Cf | ||
|6/5 | |6/5 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|nat. 4th | |nat. 4th | ||
|9\23, | |9\23, 516.304 | ||
|C | |C | ||
|4/3 | |4/3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|aug. 4th | |aug. 4th | ||
|12\23, | |12\23, 688.405 | ||
|C# | |C# | ||
|[[16/11]], [[22/15]] | |[[16/11]], [[22/15]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|double dim. 5th | |double dim. 5th | ||
|7\23, | |7\23, 401.570 | ||
|Qff | |Qff | ||
|5/4 | |5/4 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|dim. 5th | |dim. 5th | ||
|10\23, | |10\23, 573.671 | ||
|Qf | |Qf | ||
|[[15/11]], [[11/8]] | |[[15/11]], [[11/8]] | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|perf. 5th | |perf. 5th | ||
|13\23, | |13\23, 745.772 | ||
|Q | |Q | ||
|3/2 | |3/2 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|aug. 5th | |aug. 5th | ||
|16\23, | |16\23, 917.873 | ||
|Q# | |Q# | ||
|5/3 | |5/3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|dim. 6th | |dim. 6th | ||
|11\23, | |11\23, 631.038 | ||
|Dff | |Dff | ||
|[[7/5]], [[24/17]], [[17/12]], [[10/7]] | |[[7/5]], [[24/17]], [[17/12]], [[10/7]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|minor 6th | |minor 6th | ||
|14\23, | |14\23, 803.139 | ||
|Df | |Df | ||
|14/9, 11/7 | |14/9, 11/7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|major 6th | |major 6th | ||
|17\23, | |17\23, 975.240 | ||
|D | |D | ||
|12/7 | |12/7 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|minor 7th | |minor 7th | ||
|15\23, | |15\23, 860.560 | ||
|Ef | |Ef | ||
|8/5 | |8/5 | ||
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|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|major 7th | |major 7th | ||
|18\23, | |18\23, 1032.607 | ||
|E | |E | ||
|[[7/4]], [[30/17]], [[16/9]] | |[[7/4]], [[30/17]], [[16/9]] | ||
Line 950: | Line 917: | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|aug. 7th | |aug. 7th | ||
|21\23, | |21\23, 1204.709 | ||
|E# | |E# | ||
|[[31/16]], [[64/33]], [[33/17]], [[35/18]] | |[[31/16]], [[64/33]], [[33/17]], [[35/18]] | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|dim. octave | |dim. octave | ||
|19\23, | |19\23, 1089.9745 | ||
|Ff | |Ff | ||
|11/6, 20/11, 9/5 | |11/6, 20/11, 9/5 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|perf. octave | |perf. octave | ||
|22\23, | |22\23, 1262.076 | ||
|F | |F | ||
|2/1 | |2/1 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|aug. octave | |aug. octave | ||
|25\23, | |25\23, 1434.177 | ||
|F# | |F# | ||
|24/11, 11/5, 20/9 | |24/11, 11/5, 20/9 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | |- bgcolor="#eaeaff" | ||
|dim. | |dim. ninth | ||
|20\23, | |20\23, 1147.342 | ||
| | |Gf | ||
|15/8 | |15/8 | ||
| -8 | | -8 | ||
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[[Archytas clan#Ultrapyth|Ultrapythagorean]] Neapolitan-oneirotonic is a rank-2 temperament in the [[Step ratio|pseudopaucitonic]] range. It represents the [[harmonic entropy]] minimum of the Neapolitan-oneirotonic spectrum where [[7/4]] is the major seventh. | [[Archytas clan#Ultrapyth|Ultrapythagorean]] Neapolitan-oneirotonic is a rank-2 temperament in the [[Step ratio|pseudopaucitonic]] range. It represents the [[harmonic entropy]] minimum of the Neapolitan-oneirotonic spectrum where [[7/4]] is the major seventh. | ||
In the broad sense, Ultrapyth can be viewed as any tuning that divides a 16/7 into 2 equal parts. | In the broad sense, Ultrapyth can be viewed as any tuning that divides a 16/7 into 2 equal parts. 23ed15/7, 28ed15/7 and 33ed15/7 can nominally be viewed as supporting it, but are still very flat and in an ambiguous zone between 18ed15/7 and true Buzzard in terms of harmonies. 38ed15/7 & 43ed15/7 are good compromises between melodic utility and harmonic accuracy, as the small step is still large enough to be obvious to the untrained ear, but 48edIX is where it really comes into its own in terms of harmonies, providing not only excellent 7:8:9 melodies, but also [[5/4]] and [[The_Archipelago|archipelago]] harmonies, as by shifting one whole tone done a comma, it shifts from [[The Archipelago|archipelago]] to septimal harmonies. | ||
Beyond that, it's a question of which intervals you want to favor. | Beyond that, it's a question of which intervals you want to favor. 53ed15/7 has an essentially perfect [[7/4]], 58edIX also gives three essentially perfect chains of third-comma meantone, while 63ed15/7 has a double chain of essentially perfect quarter-comma meantone and gives about as low overall error as 83ed15/7 does for the basic 4:6:7 triad. But beyond 83edIX, general accuracy drops off rapidly and you might as well be playing equal pentatonic. | ||
The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various ultrapyth tunings. | The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various ultrapyth tunings. | ||
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|- | |- | ||
! | ! | ||
! | !38ed15/7 | ||
! | !53ed15/7 | ||
! | !63ed15/7 | ||
!Optimal ([[POTE|PNTE]]) Ultrapyth tuning | !Optimal ([[POTE|PNTE]]) Ultrapyth tuning | ||
!JI intervals represented (2.3.5.7.13 subgroup) | !JI intervals represented (2.3.5.7.13 subgroup) | ||
|- | |- | ||
|generator (g) | |generator (g) | ||
|15\38, | |15\38, 520.833 | ||
|21\53, | |21\53, 522.798 | ||
|25\63, | |25\63, 523.58’ | ||
|484.07 | |484.07 | ||
|4/3 | |4/3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|L (3g - minor 9th) | |L (3g - minor 9th) | ||
|7/38, | |7/38, 243.055 | ||
|10/53, | |10/53, 248.951 | ||
|12/63, | |12/63, 251.322 | ||
|231.51 | |231.51 | ||
|8/7 | |8/7 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths) | |s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths) | ||
|1/38, | |1/38, 34.722 | ||
|1/53, | |1/53, 24.895 | ||
|1/63, | |1/63, 20.934 | ||
|21.05 | |21.05 | ||
|50/49 81/80 91/90 | |||
|} | |} | ||
====Intervals==== | ====Intervals==== | ||
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|- | |- | ||
!Degree | !Degree | ||
!Size in | !Size in 38ed15/7 | ||
!Size in | !Size in 53ed15/7 | ||
!Size in | !Size in 63ed15/7 | ||
!Size in PNTE tuning | !Size in PNTE tuning | ||
!Note name on G | !Note name on G | ||
Line 1,041: | Line 1,008: | ||
|- | |- | ||
|2 | |2 | ||
|7/38, | |7/38, 243.055 | ||
|10/53, | |10/53, 248.951 | ||
|12/63, | |12/63, 251.322 | ||
|231.51 | |231.51 | ||
|A | |A | ||
|8/7 | |8/7 | ||
Line 1,050: | Line 1,017: | ||
|- | |- | ||
|3 | |3 | ||
|14\38, | |14\38, 486.111 | ||
|20\53, | |20\53, 497.903 | ||
|24\63, | |24\63, 502.645 | ||
|463.03 | |463.03 | ||
|B | |B | ||
|13/10, 21/16 | |13/10, 21/16 | ||
Line 1,059: | Line 1,026: | ||
|- | |- | ||
|4 | |4 | ||
|15\38, | |15\38, 520.833 | ||
|21\53, | |21\53, 522.798 | ||
|25\63, | |25\63, 523.588 | ||
|484.07 | |484.07 | ||
|C | |C | ||
|4/3 | |4/3 | ||
Line 1,068: | Line 1,035: | ||
|- | |- | ||
|5 | |5 | ||
|22\38, | |22\38, 763.888 | ||
|31\53, | |31\53, 771.750 | ||
|37\63, | |37\63, 774.991 | ||
|715.59 | |715.59 | ||
|Q | |Q | ||
|3/2 | |3/2 | ||
Line 1,077: | Line 1,044: | ||
|- | |- | ||
|6 | |6 | ||
|29\38, | |29\38, 1006.943 | ||
|41\53, | |41\53, 1020.701 | ||
|49\63, | |49\63, 1026.233 | ||
|947.10 | |947.10 | ||
|D | |D | ||
|26/15 | |26/15 | ||
Line 1,086: | Line 1,053: | ||
|- | |- | ||
|7 | |7 | ||
|30\38, | |30\38, 1041.665 | ||
|42\53, | |42\53, 1045.596 | ||
|50\63, | |50\63, 1047.177 | ||
|968.15 | |968.15 | ||
|E | |E | ||
|7/4 | |7/4 | ||
Line 1,095: | Line 1,062: | ||
|- | |- | ||
|8 | |8 | ||
|37\38, | |37\38, 1284.721 | ||
|52\53, | |52\53, 1294.548 | ||
|62\63, | |62\63, 1298.499 | ||
|1199.66 | |1199.66 | ||
|F | |F | ||
|2/1 | |2/1 | ||
Line 1,144: | Line 1,111: | ||
|} | |} | ||
==Scale tree== | ==Scale tree== | ||
{| | {{MOS tuning spectrum|Scale Signature=5L 3s<15/7>}} | ||