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== iOS misidentifying numbers as phone numbers ==
On many pages of the wiki, iOS misidentifies numbers as phone numbers and converts them to links, which can be disorienting because they look indistinguishable from links to other wiki pages. Here is one example:
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== Wikispaces is closing ==
Squarespace allows you to prevent it doing this to your website, by injecting a short line of code: https://sf.digital/squarespace-solutions/how-to-stop-numbers-being-converted-to-links-on-mobile
How are we going to migrate?


- '''bootmii''' February 25, 2018, 08:55:04 PM UTC-0800
I was wondering whether MediaWiki has anything similar we could use?
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Backup/Transfer etc. is being discussed on facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/xenwiki/


If it's too hard to follow there, I think it's best to ask Mike Battaglia for details.
--[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 05:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


- '''xenwolf''' February 26, 2018, 12:48:57 AM UTC-0800
== Revision proposal by Sintel ==
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As the new staff on the wiki, we plan to propound edits to the main page (since much of its content and linkage is rather obsolete at this point) on a basis established by community consensus. This page should be the place to discuss proposed revisions, suggested by admins and non-admins. New proposals will be published on the [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Daily newsfeed|daily newsfeed]], once that page is established, as well.


== New keyboard layout (for microtones) ==
To that end, Sintel has suggested two preliminary changes:
Hey, this is my first time posting on a microtones website. I made a web app with a whole new layout, though it may not seem so at first. ;) Perhaps you could check it out for me: http://imanuelhab.mooo.com/microtonal/


Some more links are here (and also a list of URL paramters, like &amp;show_microtones=1): https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&amp;utm_medium=email/#!topic/musicnotation/YcC4jDrLVKg
* Remove the link to Migration FAQ (unnecessary at this point, 7 years after the migration from Wikispaces).
* Remove the link to the Xenrhythm Wiki (no reason specified).


I also have a website where I show the prime factors of some nice just intonations (I haven't been able to try the higher EDOs yet...): http://imanuelhab.mooo.com/new-just-tuning-imanuel
I would like to see discussion about this proposal. [[User:Lériendil|Lériendil]] ([[User talk:Lériendil|talk]]) 10:02, 17 February 2025 (UTC)


- '''Yambam''' January 18, 2018, 07:11:20 AM UTC-0800
== Revision proposal by Lériendil ==
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Following the creation of the daily newsfeed, I would like to see the newsfeed itself linked on the main page as a source for updates on what's happening on the wiki (and broader community).
Hey, that's really nice, thanks for sharing :)


- '''xenwolf''' January 18, 2018, 07:38:54 AM UTC-0800
I would like to see discussion about this proposal. [[User:Lériendil|Lériendil]] ([[User talk:Lériendil|talk]]) 11:11, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
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I'm glad you like it! :D


I'm currently working on a non-web version which works with real MIDI and pitch bend. I think I mixed up the high and low notes on this fingerboard...
== Revision proposal by Sevish ==
See [[User:Sevish/Welcome to the Xenharmonic Wiki]]. It was posted by [[User:Sevish]] in 2022. --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 01:25, 18 February 2025 (UTC)


http://imanuelhab.mooo.com/strange-frets.png
== Revision proposal by fredg999 ==
I think we should mostly follow Sevish's proposal, which includes Sintel's proposal. I'll add some more ideas that could be merged into it:
* I suggest adding internal links on the keywords of the lead section, namely "theory" (to [[General theory]]), "math" (to [[Mathematical theory]]) and "practice" (to [[Practice]]). Since we don't have two separate pages for "musical tuning" and "tuning system", we don't need to add a link on "tuning system".
* I think we should link to [[Xenharmonic Wiki:About]] instead of [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Introduction]] in the lead section. Now that may sound silly, since the former redirects to the latter at the moment, but here's my point: the former should be a page for visitors, while the latter should be a page for users (editors). Actually, the latter might as well be replaced with [[Help:Help]], which in turn we might want to rename to "Help:Introduction" (in line with the corresponding Wikipedia page).
* Seeing as the name of the website is "Xenharmonic Wiki", yet its topic is "musical tuning", we might want to give the readers some more hints to learn about the distinction between key concepts/terms such as "alternative tuning", "microtonal" and "xenharmonic".
* The [[:File:Pts-2-3-5-e2-twtop-tlin.jpg|projective tuning space image]] is a classic, but I'm never sure if we should do something more with it: add a caption, add more than just one image (it might be perceived as too RTT-leaning), etc. A random image of the day might be funny, although we might end up with microtonal accidentals every other day!
* The sentence about the library mentions "electronically-available published works", but many of the links are actually pointing to library websites that help readers identify where they can find the book or document. We might want to remove "electronically-available", since the library covers more than just those.
* Some links need updating, such as [[Useful Tools]] (merged into [[List of music software]]) and [[Microtonal instruments]] (moved to [[Instruments]]).
* In the last section, the words "sign up" should lead to [[Help:How to Get Your Xenwiki Account]].
* We should also keep the last paragraph to a minimum, with only the link to the main help page but without enumerating the stuff that should be listed on that page anyway.


Yeah, I've never learned how to play the guitar. :) That's why I want something in between a guitar and a keyboard instrument...
I'm not yet convinced by the idea of the daily newsfeed, but it certainly has potential. I would suggest deploying that at a later time and implement simpler changes first. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 03:23, 18 February 2025 (UTC)


- '''Yambam''' January 18, 2018, 08:16:24 AM UTC-0800
: I agree to all the bulleted changes. [[User:Lériendil|Lériendil]] ([[User talk:Lériendil|talk]]) 12:50, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
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== Add a link? ==
== Donations link? ==
Gene, I've found this page very useful, and suggest it might be worthwhile having on the home page. It will help some people get started with alternate tunings without requiring them to know all of the theory, and will provide an easy "cookbook" reminder of processes for those who are less familiar with the material.


Thanks for your consideration.
I'd like to contribute to support the site. Where can I do this?  I searched using "contribute", "contribution", "donate", "donation", "subscribe", and "subscription", but did not find anything.  [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 22:32, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
: (Bumping this on Xenharmonic Wiki:Wikifuture)  [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 21:47, 24 March 2025 (UTC) and again [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 22:30, 10 September 2025 (UTC)


Jake
== 2025-04-08 update ==


- '''jdfreivald''' January 01, 2012, 06:10:59 PM UTC-0800
I updated the Main Page on April 6th and did another (smaller) edit on April 8th, but I did not apply all of the proposed changes yet. Here are the remaining changes:
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* Replace link to [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Introduction]] with link to [[Xenharmonic Wiki:About]] in the lead section;
What do you want a link to, and are you sure it doesn't already have one on one of the things on the home page?
** This will require work on the About page beforehand.
* Add/change/vary images (instead of having only the classic [[PTS]]).
** I haven't progressed on this idea, but I don't want to force it either. It's not critical anyway.


- '''genewardsmith''' January 01, 2012, 06:15:58 PM UTC-0800
More discussions are ongoing on Discord, namely regarding the difference between the main page and the sidebar, as well as concentrating work on the pages linked on the main page to make sure the links are generally useful. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 04:28, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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I'm sorry, I was commenting about this link:


http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Creating%20Scala%20scl%20files%20for%20rank%20two%20temperaments
== Shouldn't we keep some home page link to Category:People? ==


...and apparently forgot to hit "paste". No, it doesn't appear to be linked from anywhere on the home page or side navigation. Google doesn't show any backlinks into it, either; it may be an orphan.
Seems to me that it would be useful to keep some sort of link to [[People|Category:People]], since some people who contributed to microtonal/xenharmonic music could not be part of the Xenharmonic Alliance for the simple reason of their lives having been in an earlier time period. [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 06:39, 8 April 2025 (UTC)


- '''jdfreivald''' January 01, 2012, 08:04:08 PM UTC-0800
: A category link does not really pass for 'quality content', at least, not enough to be linked directly from main. I think it would be fine to link e.g. from the main [[Microtonal music]] page.
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: On that point, the [[Microtonal_music#History|History]] section of that page is a bit of a joke, so I do agree that more should be added there.
It was linked to on the software page, but that wasn't so easy to get to. I've reorganized the pedagogy page which is top-level; it was a complete mess, and you'll now find a link on it.
: – [[User:Sintel|Sintel🎏]] ([[User_talk:Sintel|talk]]) 18:26, 8 April 2025 (UTC)


- '''genewardsmith''' January 01, 2012, 08:53:23 PM UTC-0800
:: I'll put my vote in for both changes on the Talk page for that.  [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 19:34, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
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That works.


I'm thinking that there should be a "Just get me the scale" page -- something very pragmatic that would tell you how to take a generator and create an MOS in Scala, for instance, or how to take a set of intervals and temper them to a given EDO, or whatever. If someone ever writes that page (and it will need some serious review if it were me doing it), I would add it to that page as well.
== Revision proposal by hkm ==


Thanks for all you do for the wiki and lists.
[[List of xenharmonic music by community ratings]] is ready to be linked on the main page. It is more useful than the Listen page for discovering music already, and it will grow in usefulness faster if more people see it.
: [[User:BudjarnLambeth]] added a link to this page in the lead section of [[Listen]]. Considering the other curated lists that are now available there, I suggest keeping only "Listen" on the main page, in order to avoid giving undue weight to this specific list compared to other existing curated lists. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 05:06, 18 April 2025 (UTC)


Regards,
== Revision proposal by Budjarn (Sep 2025) ==


Jake
Following the result of the poll on the Discord (6 in favour, 0 against) I would like to propose that we change the wording of the first line of the main page:


- '''jdfreivald''' January 01, 2012, 09:01:53 PM UTC-0800
; Old wording
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"The [[Xenharmonic Wiki]] is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."


== Change to the front page ==
; Proposed new wording
I see the front page is protected - probably a good idea. There is one change I think should be made to the front page - a direct link to the scale index should be included on the front page and in bold. This is for people who are using the wiki as a tuning resource and also for editing purposes.
"The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning]] and [[microtonal music]], including [[xenharmonic music]] as well as [[historical tunings]] and those of [[world musical traditions]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."


http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/scaleindex
--[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 13:21, 28 September 2025 (UTC)


- '''vaisvil''' October 16, 2011, 07:58:40 AM UTC-0700
: Sounds good to me, except that the link to [[List_of_approaches_to_musical_tuning#Musical_traditions_of_indigenous,_ancient,_and/or_non-Western_cultures|world musical traditions]] doesn't go to the corresponding section. [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 21:04, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
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I protected the front page because of vandalism. There seems to be no way of lowering the level of protection to all members, which would make more sense.


I'm not sure what editing change you are proposing here, however. Are you suggesting something in the navigation bar? It would make the most sense under Practice, but that's hidden. It's on Lists and Gallerys, but that may not be where people first look.
:: Thanks Lucius, I have fixed the link now :) --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 00:01, 29 September 2025 (UTC)


- '''genewardsmith''' October 16, 2011, 10:19:23 AM UTC-0700
:: Anybody else have any thoughts on this? You think it's okay to go ahead, or no? --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 05:10, 30 September 2025 (UTC)
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There's already a direct link to the scale index on the text of the front page, but perhaps you are saying it should be more obvious?


- '''genewardsmith''' October 16, 2011, 10:23:34 AM UTC-0700
=== Revision proposal by Budjarn ver. 2 (Oct 2025) ===
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Because the first proposal failed to gain traction, I decided to reword it a bit and propose it again. The changes are to reflect the fact that, in practice, the wiki is mostly about xenharmonics (so as not to mislead readers who are looking for comprehensive info on world/historical tunings), while still making it very clear that articles about world/historical tunings are still allowed and encouraged.  
I was able to find the link today. Perhaps I need new glasses Gene :-)


- '''vaisvil''' October 18, 2011, 04:49:48 PM UTC-0700
; Old wording
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"The [[Xenharmonic Wiki]] is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."


== orphans ==
; New proposed wording:
There are currently 65 orphaned pages on the wiki.  Some of them look interesting. I suggest authors/editors of these pages have a look at our directory pages (General Theory, Mathematical Theory, etc) and try to link things together.
"The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about [[microtonal music]]: primarily [[xenharmonic music]] but also [[historical tunings]] and those of [[world musical traditions]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."


http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/space/pagelist/orphaned
Everyone is encouraged to please reply on this talk page to discuss this proposal. Even if you only want to say "I like the proposal" or "I don't like it", that's still a big help :)


- '''clumma''' September 18, 2011, 03:04:50 PM UTC-0700
--[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 20:36, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
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== Xenwiki on Wikipedia ==
: Looks good. —[[User:Hkm|hkm]] ([[User talk:Hkm|talk]]) 21:13, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
I just added this stub:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenharmonic_Wiki
: The elaboration, I strongly agree with. My only complaint is that I would prefer to keep "[[musical tuning]]" over "[[microtonal music]]," as plenty of the tunings discussed on the wiki would be classed as "macrotonal," or even regular-sized-tonal; even 12edo itself is covered here. [[User:Unque|Unque]] ([[User talk:Unque|talk]]) 21:39, 7 October 2025 (UTC)


It probably should be expanded.
:: I am happy to change that. So in that case it would be:


- '''genewardsmith''' August 12, 2011, 09:19:25 PM UTC-0700
:: '''New proposed wording:'''
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The corresponding thread on the tuning list:


http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/101173
:: "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning]]: primarily [[xenharmonic music]] but also [[historical tunings]] and those of [[world musical traditions]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."


- '''xenwolf''' August 15, 2011, 01:22:38 AM UTC-0700
:: --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 21:51, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
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This stub was deleted on wikipedia ONLY ONE DAY after from a giy named NawlinWiki, because the "No explanation of the subject's significance". Wtf...?  &gt;:-(


- '''tetraF''' August 23, 2011, 12:17:09 PM UTC-0700
::: I agree with Unque that microtonal is too limiting, but I disagree that "musical tuning" is the appropriate term. "Tuning systems" is more accurate, and also open enough to not exclude anything.
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:::-- [[User:Nick Vuci|Nick Vuci]] ([[User talk:Nick Vuci|talk]]) 22:23, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
IIRC it was only a few hours.


- '''clumma''' August 23, 2011, 12:37:33 PM UTC-0700
:::: Happy to do that :)
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Less than that, I thought.


- '''genewardsmith''' August 23, 2011, 02:59:14 PM UTC-0700
:::: '''New proposed wording:'''
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that nawlikwiki is a Dumbass. Is perhaps not sufficiently clear that Xenwiki is a WEB CONTENT that refer and explains ALL over the microtonality, xenharmony, mathematical properties and individual apports of each one (here are many persons)?


- '''Osmiorisbendi''' August 23, 2011, 05:23:54 PM UTC-0700
:::: "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource for information about [[musical tuning|music tuning systems]]: primarily [[xenharmonic music]] but also [[historical tunings]] and those of [[world musical traditions]]. This information includes tuning systems and their relationships, [[theory]], [[math]], and [[practice]]."
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Maybe to have a wikipedia article for the xenwiki is not so important. There are many articles in Wikipedia(s) that could be expanded by a weblink to the corresponding info here.


What do you think about that?
:::: --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 22:27, 7 October 2025 (UTC)


- '''xenwolf''' August 24, 2011, 12:32:50 AM UTC-0700
::::: Not bad, my own suggestion for wording would be:
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:::::"The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource dedicated to musical tuning systems, focusing on xenharmonic music while also documenting historical tunings and tuning practices from world traditions. It covers the theory and practical applications of these systems."
Well, maybe it could be something "sensate", but it still makes that people keep seeing it as anything, and not, as something that really worth merit.
::::: -- [[User:Nick Vuci|Nick Vuci]] ([[User talk:Nick Vuci|talk]]) 22:32, 7 October 2025 (UTC)


- '''Osmiorisbendi''' August 24, 2011, 04:19:12 PM UTC-0700
:::::: I am in favour of Nick's wording here :)
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== Vandalism on the Xenwiki ==
:::::: Here is where I would put links in it:
We've had an instance of vandalism, on this page: http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.​com/prop7g


For the moment I've moved the Xenwiki to protected status, meaning only members can post. I'd like to hear what people think should be done long-term.
:::::: '''New proposed wording:'''


- '''genewardsmith''' July 28, 2011, 09:12:38 PM UTC-0700
:::::: "The Xenharmonic Wiki is an open resource dedicated to [[musical tuning]] systems, focusing on [[xenharmonic music]] while also documenting [[historical tunings]] and tuning practices from [[world musical traditions|world traditions]]. It covers the [[theory]] and [[practice|practical applications]] of these systems."
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In my opinion, it should be protected temporarily only (maybe for some days or so).


- '''xenwolf''' July 29, 2011, 02:59:29 AM UTC-0700
:::::: --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 22:39, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
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It seems to have been a bot attack on Wikispaces, so I'm moving it back to public.


- '''genewardsmith''' July 29, 2011, 11:11:23 AM UTC-0700
::::::: I think that last version might be the one to make live on the real page.  [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 22:45, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
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== RE: whos wiki is this? ==
:::::::: On the XA Discord, [[Lériendil]] also said he likes this latest version, so that's 4 people in favour so far (Nick, me, Lucius, Lériendil), looking promising so far :)
is this mrs rich wiki?


- '''amy321''' September 27, 2009, 04:54:45 AM UTC-0700
:::::::: --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 22:59, 7 October 2025 (UTC)
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This is my wiki.  And it belongs to the other people who have edited it too.  And who's Mrs. Rich?


- '''xenjacob''' September 28, 2009, 11:33:36 AM UTC-0700
:::::::: Seems good and has enough traction. The new wording is live. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 03:22, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
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wat skool do u go to?


- '''amy321''' September 28, 2009, 06:07:45 PM UTC-0700
:::::::: Thank you Fredg999, I appreciate it :) And thank you everyone for your comments and improvements :) --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 03:41, 8 October 2025 (UTC)
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answer my question first!


- '''xenjacob''' September 30, 2009, 10:42:57 PM UTC-0700
I put the link on ''tuning system'' instead of ''musical tuning''. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 14:41, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
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our music teacher! now answer my ? plz


- '''amy321''' October 08, 2009, 04:15:12 PM UTC-0700
== Popular topics ==
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i don't go to school.  i'm free!


- '''xenjacob''' October 09, 2009, 12:34:19 AM UTC-0700
In the popular topics section, there should be a brief description of what each topic is after the bullet point; no more than a few words long. For example, [[Just Intonation]] can be described as "a tuning system based on rational frequency ratios". This will guide new readers and have them not need to click links obliviously.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 10:26, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
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how old are u ??????


- '''amy321''' October 09, 2009, 07:43:07 PM UTC-0700
: I support this proposal --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 23:39, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
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This was a funny exchange.  I wonder who Mrs. Rich was, and what she knows about xenharmony??


- '''igliashon''' July 19, 2011, 11:25:36 PM UTC-0700
: I came up with an exact proposed revision; see [[User:Overthink/Draft edits#Main page]]. Feel free to leave any suggestions for further changes. Note that the text at the beginning that reads
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<pre>
this is a test just to check if the posts are working
{{Interwiki
| en = Main Page
| de = Hauptseite
| es = Bienvenidos
| ja = メインページ
| ro = Pagina Principală
| zh = 主页
}}__NOTOC__
</pre>
: isn't included on the draft page to avoid issues; the content on the draft page only contains what is to be included after this text.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 06:16, 13 January 2026 (UTC)


- '''RicardoMatosinhos''' December 09, 2015, 12:38:17 PM UTC-0800
== Small but useful change ==
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Yes, it works perfectly !


- '''Osmiorisbendi''' January 05, 2016, 11:02:37 PM UTC-0800
It would be a good idea to link [[Xenharmonic Wiki]] in the very first sentence. This lets readers know what this website is about, while hardly being disruptive. --[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 05:28, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
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: Done, thank you for the suggestion. --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 02:44, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
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