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The [[5-limit]] parent [[comma]] for the '''dicot family''' is [[25/24]], the classical chromatic semitone. Its [[monzo]] is {{monzo| -3 -1 2 }}, and flipping that yields {{multival| 2 1 -3 }} for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the [[generator]] is a classical third (major and minor mean the same thing), and that two such thirds give a fifth. In fact, (5/4)<sup>2</sup> = (3/2)(25/24).  
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The '''dicot family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[25/24]], the classical chromatic semitone. Dicot was likely the first named of the temperaments ending in -cot, as it is the only one to correspond with a proper botanical term (referring to plants with two embryonic leaves) and it is the most inaccurate.  


Possible tunings for dicot are [[7edo]], [[17edo]], [[24edo]] using the val {{val| 24 38 55 }} (24c) and [[31edo]] using the val {{val| 31 49 71 }} (31c). In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and pretending that is 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve pretending, dicot is at the edge of what can sensibly be called a temperament at all. In other words, it is an [[exotemperament]].
== Dicot ==
{{Main| Dicot }}
 
The head of this family, dicot, is [[generator|generated]] by a classical third (major and minor mean the same thing), and two such thirds give a fifth. In fact, {{nowrap|(5/4)<sup>2</sup> {{=}} (3/2)(25/24)}}. Its [[ploidacot]] is the same as its name, dicot.
 
Possible tunings for dicot are [[7edo]], [[10edo]], [[17edo]], [[24edo]] using the val {{val| 24 38 55 }} (24c), and [[31edo]] using the val {{val| 31 49 71 }} (31c). In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and sixths and pretending that these are 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve a lot of "pretending", dicot is close to the edge of what can be sensibly called a temperament at all. In other words, it is an [[exotemperament]].


== Dicot ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 | 0 2 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 | 0 2 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~5/4


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 348.594
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1206.283{{c}}, ~5/4 = 350.420{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +6.283 +5.167 -23.328 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 351.086{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.216 -35.228 }}


[[Tuning ranges]]:  
[[Tuning ranges]]:  
* 5-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~5/4 = [300.000, 400.000] (1\4 to 1\3)
* [[5-odd-limit]] [[diamond monotone]]: ~5/4 = [300.000, 400.000] (1\4 to 1\3)
* 5-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~5/4 = [315.641, 386.314] (full comma to untempered)
* 5-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~5/4 = [315.641, 386.314] (full comma to untempered)
* 5-odd-limit diamond monotone and tradeoff: ~5/4 = [315.641, 386.314]


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 4, 7, 17, 24c, 31c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 4, 7, 17, 24c, 31c }}


[[Badness]]: 0.013028
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.306


=== Overview to extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. Septimal dicot, with wedgie {{multival| 2 1 3 -3 -1 4 }} adds 36/35, sharp with wedgie {{multival| 2 1 6 -3 4 11 }} adds 28/27, and dichotic with wedgie {{multival| 2 1 -4 -3 -12 -12 }} adds 64/63, all retaining the same period and generator.  
==== 7-limit extensions ====
The second comma of the comma list defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. Mujannabic adds [[36/35]], flattie adds [[21/20]], sharpie adds [[28/27]], and dichotic adds [[64/63]], all retaining the same period and generator.
 
The dicot comma, 25/24, factors into the 7-limit as ([[49/48]])⋅([[50/49]]). Since [[49/48]] is the difference between [[8/7]] and [[7/6]], and [[50/49]] is the difference between [[7/5]] and [[10/7]], it makes sense to extend dicot to temper them all out, leading to decimal, a weak extension where the octave and twelfth are split in halves. Other weak extensions include sidi, which adds [[245/243]], and jamesbond, which adds [[16/15]]. Here sidi uses 14/9 as a generator, with two of them making up the combined [[5/2]][[~]][[12/5]] neutral tenth. Jamesbond has a period of 1/7 octave, and uses an approximate 15/14 as generator.
 
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:
* ''[[Geryon]]'' → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Geryon|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Jamesbond]]'' → [[7th-octave temperaments #Jamesbond|7th-octave temperaments]]
 
The rest are considered in each sections below.
 
==== Subgroup extensions ====
In the 11-limit, we have the identity 25/24 = ([[45/44]])⋅([[55/54]]), so it makes sense to temper out all of them. This leads to the very natural subgroup temperament where [[11/9]]~[[27/22]] is mapped to the neutral third. As such, this is also the path that most of the septimal extensions take to get their 11-limit versions.
 
An alternative identity is 25/24 = ([[33/32]])⋅([[100/99]]), and tempering out these commas leads to the 2.3.5.11-subgroup restriction of some of the temperaments below.
 
=== 2.3.5.11 subgroup ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
 
Comma list: 25/24, 45/44
 
Subgroup val mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 | 0 2 1 5 }}
 
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 0 2 | 0 2 1 0 5 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1206.750{{c}}, ~5/4 = 348.684{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 348.954{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3e, 4e, 7, 24c, 31c }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.370


Decimal with wedgie {{multival| 4 2 2 -6 -8 -1 }} adds 49/48, sidi with wedgie {{multival| 4 2 9 -3 6 15 }} adds 245/243, and jamesbond with wedgie {{multival| 0 0 7 0 11 16 }} adds 81/80. Here decimal divides the period to 1/2 octave, and sidi uses 9/7 as a generator, with two of them making up the combined 5/3 and 8/5 neutral sixth. Jamesbond has a period of 1/7 octave, and uses an approximate 15/14 as generator.
==== 2.3.5.11.13 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13
 
Comma list: 25/24, 40/39, 45/44
 
Subgroup val mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 4 | 0 2 1 5 -1 }}
 
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 0 2 4 | 0 2 1 0 5 -1 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1202.433{{c}}, ~5/4 = 351.237{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 350.978{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3e, 7, 17 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.536
 
== Mujannabic ==
Mujannabic extends dicot such that [[7/6]] and [[9/7]] are also conflated with 5/4~6/5. Although 5/4–6/5 covers a giant block of pitches already, 7/6 and 9/7 are often considered as thirds too. On that account one could argue for the utility of this extension despite the relatively poor accuracy.
 
Mujannabic was known as ''septimal dicot'' in earlier materials such as [[Graham Breed]]'s [https://x31eq.com/temper/ Temperament Finder].  


== Septimal dicot ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 2 | 0 2 1 3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 2 | 0 2 1 3 }}


{{Multival|legend=1| 2 1 3 -3 -1 4 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1205.532{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.931{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +5.532 -20.561 -37.319 +56.032 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 338.561{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -24.834 -47.753 +46.856 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 336.381
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3d, 4, 7 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3d, 4, 7, 18bc, 25bccd }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.504
 
[[Badness]]: 0.019935


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 2 | 0 2 1 3 5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 2 | 0 2 1 3 5 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 342.125
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1203.346{{c}}, ~6/5 = 343.078{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 343.260{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3de, 4e, 7 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3de, 4e, 7 }}


Badness: 0.019854
Badness (Sintel): 0.656


=== Eudicot ===
=== Eudicot ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 4 | 0 2 1 3 -2 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 4 | 0 2 1 3 -2 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 336.051
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1205.828{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.683{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 336.909{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3d, 4, 7, 18bc, 25bccd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3d, 4, 7, 18bc, 25bccd }}


Badness: 0.027114
Badness (Sintel): 0.896


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 4 4 | 0 2 1 3 -2 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 4 4 | 0 2 1 3 -2 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 338.846
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1202.660{{c}}, ~6/5 = 339.597{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 339.104{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3d, 4, 7 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3d, 4, 7, 25bccd, 32bccddef, 39bcccdddef }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.985


Badness: 0.023828
== Flattie ==
This temperament used to be known as ''flat''. Unlike mujannabic where 7/6 is added to the neutral third, here [[8/7]] is added instead.  


== Flat ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 3 | 0 2 1 -1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 3 | 0 2 1 -1 }}


{{Multival|legend=1|2 1 -1 -3 -7 -5}}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
 
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1220.466{{c}}, ~6/5 = 337.577{{c}}
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 331.916
: [[error map]]: {{val| +20.466 -6.335 -7.804 -45.004 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 335.391{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -31.173 -50.922 -104.217 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 4, 7d, 11cd, 18bcddd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 4, 7d, 11cd, 18bcddd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.025381
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.642


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 3 4 | 0 2 1 -1 -2 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 3 4 | 0 2 1 -1 -2 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 337.532
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1216.069{{c}}, ~6/5 = 342.052{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 338.467{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 4, 7d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 4, 7d }}


Badness: 0.024988
Badness (Sintel): 0.826


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 3 4 4 | 0 2 1 -1 -2 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 3 4 4 | 0 2 1 -1 -2 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 341.023
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1211.546{{c}}, ~6/5 = 344.304{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 341.373{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 4, 7d }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 4, 7d }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.968


Badness: 0.023420
== Sharpie ==
This temperament used to be known as ''sharp''. This is where you find 7/6 at the major second and [[7/4]] at the major sixth.  


== Sharp ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 1 | 0 2 1 6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 1 | 0 2 1 6 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 357.938
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
 
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1202.488{{c}}, ~5/4 = 358.680{{c}}
{{Multival|legend=1| 2 1 6 -3 4 11 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +2.488 +17.893 -22.658 -14.258 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 358.495{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +15.035 -27.818 -17.854 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3d, 7d, 10, 37cd, 47bccd, 57bccdd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3d, 7d, 10 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.028942
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.732


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 1 2 | 0 2 1 6 5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 1 2 | 0 2 1 6 5 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 356.106
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1201.518{{c}}, ~5/4 = 356.557{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 356.457{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3de, 7d, 10, 17d, 27cde }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3de, 7d, 10, 17d }}


Badness: 0.022366
Badness (Sintel): 0.739


== Decimal ==
== Dichotic ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
In dichotic, 7/4 is found at a stack of two perfect fourths.  
 
[[Comma list]]: 25/24, 49/48
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 3 4 | 0 2 1 1 }}
 
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 2 2 -6 -8 -1 }}
 
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~7/6 = 251.557
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 10, 14c, 24c, 38ccd, 62cccdd }}
 
[[Badness]]: 0.028334
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 25/24, 45/44, 49/48
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 3 4 -1 | 0 2 1 1 5 }}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~7/6 = 253.493
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 14c, 24c, 38ccd, 52cccde }}
 
Badness: 0.026712
 
=== Decimated ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 25/24, 33/32, 49/48
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 3 4 10 | 0 2 1 1 -2 }}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~7/6 = 255.066
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 10e, 14c }}
 
Badness: 0.031456
 
=== Decibel ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 25/24, 35/33, 49/48
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 3 4 7 | 0 2 1 1 0 }}
 
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~7/5 = 1\2, ~8/7 = 243.493


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 6, 10 }}
Badness: 0.032385
== Dichotic ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 4 | 0 2 1 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 4 | 0 2 1 -4 }}


{{Multival|legend=1| 2 1 -4 -3 -12 -12 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.802{{c}}, ~5/4 = 356.502{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.802 +11.851 -28.208 +8.374 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 356.275{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +10.595 -30.039 +6.074 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 356.264
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 7, 10, 17, 27c }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 7, 10, 17, 27c, 37c, 64bccc }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.951
 
[[Badness]]: 0.037565


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 2 | 0 2 1 -4 5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 2 | 0 2 1 -4 5 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 354.262
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.504{{c}}, ~5/4 = 354.115{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 354.236{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 10, 17, 27ce, 44cce }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 10, 17 }}


Badness: 0.030680
Badness (Sintel): 1.01


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 2 4 | 0 2 1 -4 5 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 2 4 | 0 2 1 -4 5 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 354.365
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.289{{c}}, ~5/4 = 354.156{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 354.340{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 10, 17, 27ce, 44cce }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 10, 17, 27ce, 44cce }}


Badness: 0.021674
Badness (Sintel): 0.896


=== Dichotomic ===
=== Dichotomic ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 4 | 0 2 1 -4 -2 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 4 | 0 2 1 -4 -2 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 354.073
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1203.949{{c}}, ~5/4 = 355.239{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 354.024{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 7, 10e, 17e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 7, 10e }}


Badness: 0.031719
Badness (Sintel): 1.05


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 4 4 | 0 2 1 -4 -2 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 4 4 | 0 2 1 -4 -2 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 354.313
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1202.979{{c}}, ~5/4 = 355.193{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 354.254{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 7, 10e, 17e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 7, 10e }}


Badness: 0.022741
Badness (Sintel): 0.940


=== Dichosis ===
=== Dichosis ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 5 | 0 2 1 -4 -5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 5 | 0 2 1 -4 -5 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 360.659
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.526{{c}}, ~5/4 = 359.915{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 360.745{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 7e, 10 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 7e, 10 }}


Badness: 0.041361
Badness (Sintel): 1.37


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 5 4 | 0 2 1 -4 -5 -1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 4 5 4 | 0 2 1 -4 -5 -1 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~5/4 = 360.646
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.922{{c}}, ~5/4 = 360.021{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 360.722{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 7e, 10 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 7e, 10 }}


Badness: 0.027938
Badness (Sintel): 1.15
 
== Decimal ==
{{Main| Decimal }}
{{See also| Jubilismic clan }}
 
Decimal tempers out 49/48 and [[50/49]], and has a semi-octave period for 7/5~10/7 and a hemitwelfth generator for 7/4~12/7. Its ploidacot is diploid dicot. [[10edo]] makes for a good tuning, from which it derives its name. [[14edo]] in the 14c val and [[24edo]] in the 24c val are also among the possibilities.
 
Decimal can be extended to the 11-limit by the usual path of tempering out 45/44 and 55/54. There is an alternative due to the identity 50/49 = ([[99/98]])⋅([[100/99]]), in which case it also tempers out 33/32. The two mappings meet at the 14c val of [[14edo]].  


== Jamesbond ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 25/24, 81/80
[[Comma list]]: 25/24, 49/48


{{Mapping|legend=1| 7 11 16 0 | 0 0 0 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 3 4 | 0 2 1 1 }}


{{Multival|legend=1| 0 0 7 0 11 16 }}
: mapping generators: ~7/5, ~7/4


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~8/7 = 258.139
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~7/5 = 603.286{{c}}, ~7/4 = 953.637{{c}} (~7/6 = 252.935{{c}})
: [[error map]]: {{val| +6.571 +5.318 -22.821 -2.047 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~7/5 = 600.000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 950.957{{c}} (~7/6 = 249.043{{c}})
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.041 -35.357 -17.869 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 14c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4, 10, 14c, 24c, 38ccd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.041714
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.717


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 25/24, 33/32, 45/44
Comma list: 25/24, 45/44, 49/48


Mapping: {{mapping| 7 11 16 0 24 | 0 0 0 1 0 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 3 4 -1 | 0 2 1 1 5 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~8/7 = 258.910
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~7/5 = 603.558{{c}}, ~7/4 = 952.121{{c}} (~7/6 = 254.996{{c}})
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 948.610{{c}} (~7/6 = 251.390{{c}})


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 14c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4e, 10, 14c, 24c }}


Badness: 0.023524
Badness (Sintel): 0.883


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 25/24, 27/26, 33/32, 40/39
Comma list: 25/24, 45/44, 49/48, 91/90


Mapping: {{mapping| 7 11 16 0 24 26 | 0 0 0 1 0 0 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 3 4 -1 1| 0 2 1 1 5 4}}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~8/7 = 250.764
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~7/5 = 603.612{{c}}, ~7/4 = 953.663{{c}} (~7/6 = 253.562{{c}})
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 950.116{{c}} (~7/6 = 249.884{{c}})


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 14c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4ef, 10, 14cf, 24cf }}


Badness: 0.023003
Badness (Sintel): 0.881


==== Septimal ====
=== Decimated ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 25/24, 33/32, 49/48
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 3 4 10 | 0 2 1 1 -2 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~7/5 = 604.535{{c}}, ~7/4 = 952.076{{c}} (~7/6 = 256.994{{c}})
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 946.108{{c}} (~7/6 = 253.892{{c}})
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4, 10e, 14c }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.04
 
=== Decibel ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 25/24, 33/32, 45/44, 65/63
Comma list: 25/24, 35/33, 49/48


Mapping: {{mapping| 7 11 16 0 24 6 | 0 0 0 1 0 1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 3 4 7 | 0 2 1 1 0 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~10/9 = 1\7, ~8/7 = 247.445
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~7/5 = 599.404{{c}}, ~7/4 = 955.557{{c}} (~8/7 = 243.251{{c}})
* CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000{{c}}, ~7/4 = 956.169{{c}} (~8/7 = 243.831{{c}})


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 14cf }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 4, 6, 10 }}


Badness: 0.022569
Badness (Sintel): 1.07


== Sidi ==
== Sidi ==
Sidi tempers out [[245/243]], and splits [[5/2]][[~]][[12/5]] in two. Its [[ploidacot]] is beta-tetracot. This relates it to [[squares]], to which it can be used as a simpler alternative. 14edo in the 14c val can be used as a tuning, in which case it is identical to squares, however.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 25/24, 245/243
[[Comma list]]: 25/24, 245/243


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 3 3 6 | 0 -4 -2 -9 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 1 -3 | 0 4 2 9 }}


{{Multival|legend=1| 4 2 9 -12 3 15 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~14/9


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~9/7 = 427.208
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1207.178{{c}}, ~14/9 = 777.414{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +7.178 +0.523 -24.308 +6.367 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~14/9 = 773.872{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -6.464 -38.569 -3.973 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3d, 14c, 45cc, 59bcccd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3d, , 11cd, 14c }}


[[Badness]]: 0.056586
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.43


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Line 370: Line 451:
Comma list: 25/24, 45/44, 99/98
Comma list: 25/24, 45/44, 99/98


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 3 3 6 7 | 0 -4 -2 -9 -10 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 1 -3 -3 | 0 4 2 9 10 }}


POTE generator: ~9/7 = 427.273
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1207.200{{c}}, ~11/7 = 777.363{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 773.777{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3de, 14c, 45cce, 59bcccdee }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3de, , 11cdee, 14c }}


Badness: 0.032957
Badness (Sintel): 1.09
 
== Sida ==
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2026, sida is described as the {{nowrap| 3 & 14c }} temperment, and tempers out [[1323/1280]] and [[4000/3969]]. Its [[ploidacot]] is beta-tetracot, the same as [[#Sidi|sidi]].  


== Quad ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 9/8, 25/24
[[Comma list]]: 25/24, 1323/1280
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 1 6 | 0 4 2 -5 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~32/21
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1209.021{{c}}, ~32/21 = 778.298{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +9.021 +2.216 -20.696 -6.188 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~32/21 = 772.785{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -10.816 -40.744 -32.749 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 3, 11c, 14c, 45ccdd }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.12
 
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


{{Mapping|legend=1| 4 6 9 0 | 0 0 0 1 }}
Comma list: 25/24, 33/32, 245/242


{{Multival|legend=1|0 0 4 0 6 9}}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 3 3 1 2 | 0 -4 -2 5 4 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~6/5 = 1\4, ~8/7 = 324.482
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1209.621{{c}}, ~11/7 = 772.376{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~11/7 = 772.247{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 4 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3, 11c, 14c }}


[[Badness]]: 0.045911
Badness (Sintel): 1.54


[[Category:Temperament families]]
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Latest revision as of 10:09, 29 May 2026

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

The dicot family of temperaments tempers out 25/24, the classical chromatic semitone. Dicot was likely the first named of the temperaments ending in -cot, as it is the only one to correspond with a proper botanical term (referring to plants with two embryonic leaves) and it is the most inaccurate.

Dicot

The head of this family, dicot, is generated by a classical third (major and minor mean the same thing), and two such thirds give a fifth. In fact, (5/4)2 = (3/2)(25/24). Its ploidacot is the same as its name, dicot.

Possible tunings for dicot are 7edo, 10edo, 17edo, 24edo using the val 24 38 55] (24c), and 31edo using the val 31 49 71] (31c). In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and sixths and pretending that these are 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve a lot of "pretending", dicot is close to the edge of what can be sensibly called a temperament at all. In other words, it is an exotemperament.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 25/24

Mapping[1 1 2], 0 2 1]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~5/4

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1206.283 ¢, ~5/4 = 350.420 ¢
error map: +6.283 +5.167 -23.328]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 351.086 ¢
error map: 0.000 +0.216 -35.228]

Tuning ranges:

Optimal ET sequence3, 4, 7, 17, 24c, 31c

Badness (Sintel): 0.306

Overview to extensions

7-limit extensions

The second comma of the comma list defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Mujannabic adds 36/35, flattie adds 21/20, sharpie adds 28/27, and dichotic adds 64/63, all retaining the same period and generator.

The dicot comma, 25/24, factors into the 7-limit as (49/48)⋅(50/49). Since 49/48 is the difference between 8/7 and 7/6, and 50/49 is the difference between 7/5 and 10/7, it makes sense to extend dicot to temper them all out, leading to decimal, a weak extension where the octave and twelfth are split in halves. Other weak extensions include sidi, which adds 245/243, and jamesbond, which adds 16/15. Here sidi uses 14/9 as a generator, with two of them making up the combined 5/2~12/5 neutral tenth. Jamesbond has a period of 1/7 octave, and uses an approximate 15/14 as generator.

Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:

The rest are considered in each sections below.

Subgroup extensions

In the 11-limit, we have the identity 25/24 = (45/44)⋅(55/54), so it makes sense to temper out all of them. This leads to the very natural subgroup temperament where 11/9~27/22 is mapped to the neutral third. As such, this is also the path that most of the septimal extensions take to get their 11-limit versions.

An alternative identity is 25/24 = (33/32)⋅(100/99), and tempering out these commas leads to the 2.3.5.11-subgroup restriction of some of the temperaments below.

2.3.5.11 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.3.5.11

Comma list: 25/24, 45/44

Subgroup val mapping: [1 1 2 2], 0 2 1 5]]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 2 0 2], 0 2 1 0 5]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1206.750 ¢, ~5/4 = 348.684 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 348.954 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3e, 4e, 7, 24c, 31c

Badness (Sintel): 0.370

2.3.5.11.13 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13

Comma list: 25/24, 40/39, 45/44

Subgroup val mapping: [1 1 2 2 4], 0 2 1 5 -1]]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 2 0 2 4], 0 2 1 0 5 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1202.433 ¢, ~5/4 = 351.237 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 350.978 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3e, 7, 17

Badness (Sintel): 0.536

Mujannabic

Mujannabic extends dicot such that 7/6 and 9/7 are also conflated with 5/4~6/5. Although 5/4–6/5 covers a giant block of pitches already, 7/6 and 9/7 are often considered as thirds too. On that account one could argue for the utility of this extension despite the relatively poor accuracy.

Mujannabic was known as septimal dicot in earlier materials such as Graham Breed's Temperament Finder.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 15/14, 25/24

Mapping[1 1 2 2], 0 2 1 3]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1205.532 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.931 ¢
error map: +5.532 -20.561 -37.319 +56.032]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 338.561 ¢
error map: 0.000 -24.834 -47.753 +46.856]

Optimal ET sequence3d, 4, 7

Badness (Sintel): 0.504

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 15/14, 22/21, 25/24

Mapping: [1 1 2 2 2], 0 2 1 3 5]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1203.346 ¢, ~6/5 = 343.078 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 343.260 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3de, 4e, 7

Badness (Sintel): 0.656

Eudicot

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 15/14, 25/24, 33/32

Mapping: [1 1 2 2 4], 0 2 1 3 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1205.828 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.683 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 336.909 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3d, 4, 7, 18bc, 25bccd

Badness (Sintel): 0.896

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 15/14, 25/24, 33/32, 40/39

Mapping: [1 1 2 2 4 4], 0 2 1 3 -2 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1202.660 ¢, ~6/5 = 339.597 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 339.104 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3d, 4, 7

Badness (Sintel): 0.985

Flattie

This temperament used to be known as flat. Unlike mujannabic where 7/6 is added to the neutral third, here 8/7 is added instead.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 21/20, 25/24

Mapping[1 1 2 3], 0 2 1 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1220.466 ¢, ~6/5 = 337.577 ¢
error map: +20.466 -6.335 -7.804 -45.004]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 335.391 ¢
error map: 0.000 -31.173 -50.922 -104.217]

Optimal ET sequence3, 4, 7d, 11cd, 18bcddd

Badness (Sintel): 0.642

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 21/20, 25/24, 33/32

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 4], 0 2 1 -1 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1216.069 ¢, ~6/5 = 342.052 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 338.467 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3, 4, 7d

Badness (Sintel): 0.826

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 14/13, 21/20, 25/24, 33/32

Mapping: [1 1 2 3 4 4], 0 2 1 -1 -2 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1211.546 ¢, ~6/5 = 344.304 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~6/5 = 341.373 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3, 4, 7d

Badness (Sintel): 0.968

Sharpie

This temperament used to be known as sharp. This is where you find 7/6 at the major second and 7/4 at the major sixth.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 25/24, 28/27

Mapping[1 1 2 1], 0 2 1 6]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1202.488 ¢, ~5/4 = 358.680 ¢
error map: +2.488 +17.893 -22.658 -14.258]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 358.495 ¢
error map: 0.000 +15.035 -27.818 -17.854]

Optimal ET sequence3d, 7d, 10

Badness (Sintel): 0.732

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 25/24, 28/27, 35/33

Mapping: [1 1 2 1 2], 0 2 1 6 5]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1201.518 ¢, ~5/4 = 356.557 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 356.457 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3de, 7d, 10, 17d

Badness (Sintel): 0.739

Dichotic

In dichotic, 7/4 is found at a stack of two perfect fourths.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 25/24, 64/63

Mapping[1 1 2 4], 0 2 1 -4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1200.802 ¢, ~5/4 = 356.502 ¢
error map: +0.802 +11.851 -28.208 +8.374]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 356.275 ¢
error map: 0.000 +10.595 -30.039 +6.074]

Optimal ET sequence3, 7, 10, 17, 27c

Badness (Sintel): 0.951

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 25/24, 45/44, 64/63

Mapping: [1 1 2 4 2], 0 2 1 -4 5]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.504 ¢, ~5/4 = 354.115 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 354.236 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 10, 17

Badness (Sintel): 1.01

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 25/24, 40/39, 45/44, 64/63

Mapping: [1 1 2 4 2 4], 0 2 1 -4 5 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1199.289 ¢, ~5/4 = 354.156 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 354.340 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 7, 10, 17, 27ce, 44cce

Badness (Sintel): 0.896

Dichotomic

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 22/21, 25/24, 33/32

Mapping: [1 1 2 4 4], 0 2 1 -4 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1203.949 ¢, ~5/4 = 355.239 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 354.024 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3, 7, 10e

Badness (Sintel): 1.05

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 22/21, 25/24, 33/32, 40/39

Mapping: [1 1 2 4 4 4], 0 2 1 -4 -2 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1202.979 ¢, ~5/4 = 355.193 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 354.254 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3, 7, 10e

Badness (Sintel): 0.940

Dichosis

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 25/24, 35/33, 64/63

Mapping: [1 1 2 4 5], 0 2 1 -4 -5]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.526 ¢, ~5/4 = 359.915 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 360.745 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3, 7e, 10

Badness (Sintel): 1.37

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 25/24, 35/33, 40/39, 64/63

Mapping: [1 1 2 4 5 4], 0 2 1 -4 -5 -1]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1197.922 ¢, ~5/4 = 360.021 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~5/4 = 360.722 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3, 7e, 10

Badness (Sintel): 1.15

Decimal

Decimal tempers out 49/48 and 50/49, and has a semi-octave period for 7/5~10/7 and a hemitwelfth generator for 7/4~12/7. Its ploidacot is diploid dicot. 10edo makes for a good tuning, from which it derives its name. 14edo in the 14c val and 24edo in the 24c val are also among the possibilities.

Decimal can be extended to the 11-limit by the usual path of tempering out 45/44 and 55/54. There is an alternative due to the identity 50/49 = (99/98)⋅(100/99), in which case it also tempers out 33/32. The two mappings meet at the 14c val of 14edo.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 25/24, 49/48

Mapping[2 0 3 4], 0 2 1 1]]

mapping generators: ~7/5, ~7/4

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~7/5 = 603.286 ¢, ~7/4 = 953.637 ¢ (~7/6 = 252.935 ¢)
error map: +6.571 +5.318 -22.821 -2.047]
  • CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000 ¢, ~7/4 = 950.957 ¢ (~7/6 = 249.043 ¢)
error map: 0.000 -0.041 -35.357 -17.869]

Optimal ET sequence4, 10, 14c, 24c, 38ccd

Badness (Sintel): 0.717

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 25/24, 45/44, 49/48

Mapping: [2 0 3 4 -1], 0 2 1 1 5]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~7/5 = 603.558 ¢, ~7/4 = 952.121 ¢ (~7/6 = 254.996 ¢)
  • CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000 ¢, ~7/4 = 948.610 ¢ (~7/6 = 251.390 ¢)

Optimal ET sequence: 4e, 10, 14c, 24c

Badness (Sintel): 0.883

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 25/24, 45/44, 49/48, 91/90

Mapping: [2 0 3 4 -1 1], 0 2 1 1 5 4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~7/5 = 603.612 ¢, ~7/4 = 953.663 ¢ (~7/6 = 253.562 ¢)
  • CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000 ¢, ~7/4 = 950.116 ¢ (~7/6 = 249.884 ¢)

Optimal ET sequence: 4ef, 10, 14cf, 24cf

Badness (Sintel): 0.881

Decimated

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 25/24, 33/32, 49/48

Mapping: [2 0 3 4 10], 0 2 1 1 -2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~7/5 = 604.535 ¢, ~7/4 = 952.076 ¢ (~7/6 = 256.994 ¢)
  • CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000 ¢, ~7/4 = 946.108 ¢ (~7/6 = 253.892 ¢)

Optimal ET sequence: 4, 10e, 14c

Badness (Sintel): 1.04

Decibel

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 25/24, 35/33, 49/48

Mapping: [2 0 3 4 7], 0 2 1 1 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~7/5 = 599.404 ¢, ~7/4 = 955.557 ¢ (~8/7 = 243.251 ¢)
  • CWE: ~7/5 = 600.000 ¢, ~7/4 = 956.169 ¢ (~8/7 = 243.831 ¢)

Optimal ET sequence: 4, 6, 10

Badness (Sintel): 1.07

Sidi

Sidi tempers out 245/243, and splits 5/2~12/5 in two. Its ploidacot is beta-tetracot. This relates it to squares, to which it can be used as a simpler alternative. 14edo in the 14c val can be used as a tuning, in which case it is identical to squares, however.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 25/24, 245/243

Mapping[1 -1 1 -3], 0 4 2 9]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~14/9

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1207.178 ¢, ~14/9 = 777.414 ¢
error map: +7.178 +0.523 -24.308 +6.367]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~14/9 = 773.872 ¢
error map: 0.000 -6.464 -38.569 -3.973]

Optimal ET sequence3d, …, 11cd, 14c

Badness (Sintel): 1.43

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 25/24, 45/44, 99/98

Mapping: [1 -1 1 -3 -3], 0 4 2 9 10]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1207.200 ¢, ~11/7 = 777.363 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~11/7 = 773.777 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3de, …, 11cdee, 14c

Badness (Sintel): 1.09

Sida

Named by Xenllium in 2026, sida is described as the 3 & 14c temperment, and tempers out 1323/1280 and 4000/3969. Its ploidacot is beta-tetracot, the same as sidi.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 25/24, 1323/1280

Mapping[1 -1 1 6], 0 4 2 -5]]

mapping generators: ~2, ~32/21

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1209.021 ¢, ~32/21 = 778.298 ¢
error map: +9.021 +2.216 -20.696 -6.188]
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~32/21 = 772.785 ¢
error map: 0.000 -10.816 -40.744 -32.749]

Optimal ET sequence3, 11c, 14c, 45ccdd

Badness (Sintel): 2.12

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 25/24, 33/32, 245/242

Mapping: [1 3 3 1 2], 0 -4 -2 5 4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • WE: ~2 = 1209.621 ¢, ~11/7 = 772.376 ¢
  • CWE: ~2 = 1200.000 ¢, ~11/7 = 772.247 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 3, 11c, 14c

Badness (Sintel): 1.54