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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Icon =
| Name = diatismic minor seventh
| Ratio = 30/17
| Monzo = 1 1 1 0 0 0 -1
| Cents = 983.31331
| Name = septendecimal minor seventh
| Color name = 17uy6, suyo 6th
| Color name = 17uy6, suyo 6th
| Sound = jid_30_17_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Sound = jid_30_17_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
}}
}}
In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''30/17''' is the '''septendecimal minor seventh''', measuring about 983.. It is the [[mediant]] between [[7/4]] and [[23/13]]. Its inversion is [[17/15]], the "septendecimal whole tone" -- both of these intervals are well-approximated in [[22edo]] (18\22, 4\22).
In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''30/17''' is the '''diatismic minor seventh''', measuring about 983.3{{cent}}. It falls short of the [[16/9|Pythagorean minor seventh (16/9)]] by a [[136/135|diatisma (136/135)]], hence the name. It is the [[mediant]] of [[7/4]] and [[23/13]]. Its inversion is [[17/15]], the "septendecimal whole tone"; both of these intervals are well approximated in [[22edo]] (18\22, 4\22).
== Approximation ==
{{Interval edo approximation|30/17}}


== See also ==
== See also ==


* [[17/15]] its [[inverse interval]]
* [[17/15]] its [[octave complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]


[[Category:17-limit]]
[[Category:Interval ratio]]
[[Category:Just interval]]
[[Category:Listen]]
[[Category:Seventh]]
[[Category:Seventh]]
[[Category:Minor seventh]]
[[Category:Minor seventh]]
[[Category:Diatismic]]

Latest revision as of 13:10, 3 November 2025

Interval information
Ratio 30/17
Factorization 2 × 3 × 5 × 17-1
Monzo [1 1 1 0 0 0 -1
Size in cents 983.3133¢
Name diatismic minor seventh
Color name 17uy6, suyo 6th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A6}^{5}_{17} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 8.99435
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 9.81378
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 27

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In 17-limit just intonation, 30/17 is the diatismic minor seventh, measuring about 983.3 ¢. It falls short of the Pythagorean minor seventh (16/9) by a diatisma (136/135), hence the name. It is the mediant of 7/4 and 23/13. Its inversion is 17/15, the "septendecimal whole tone"; both of these intervals are well approximated in 22edo (18\22, 4\22).

Approximation

Edo approximations for 30/17 (983.31 ¢)
≤ 80edo, relative error ≤ 10%
Edo Step size Cents (¢) Absolute error (¢) Relative error (%)
5 4\5 960.00 -23.31 -9.71
6 5\6 1000.00 +16.69 +8.34
11 9\11 981.82 -1.50 -1.37
17 14\17 988.24 +4.92 +6.97
22 18\22 981.82 -1.50 -2.74
28 23\28 985.71 +2.40 +5.60
33 27\33 981.82 -1.50 -4.11
39 32\39 984.62 +1.30 +4.23
44 36\44 981.82 -1.50 -5.48
50 41\50 984.00 +0.69 +2.86
55 45\55 981.82 -1.50 -6.85
61 50\61 983.61 +0.29 +1.49
66 54\66 981.82 -1.50 -8.22
67 55\67 985.07 +1.76 +9.83
72 59\72 983.33 +0.02 +0.12
77 63\77 981.82 -1.50 -9.59
78 64\78 984.62 +1.30 +8.46

See also