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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
61edo is only [[consistent]] to the [[5-odd-limit]]. Its [[3/1|3rd]] and [[5/1|5th]] [[harmonic]]s are sharp of just by more than 6 cents, and the [[7/1|7th]] and [[11/1|11th]], though they err by less, are on the flat side. This limits its harmonic inventory. However, it does possess reasonably good approximations of [[21/16]] and [[23/16]], only a bit more than one cent off in each case. | |||
As an equal temperament, 61et is characterized by [[tempering out]] 20000/19683 ([[tetracot comma]]) and 262144/253125 ([[passion comma]]) in the 5-limit. In the 7-limit, the [[patent val]] {{val| 61 97 142 '''171''' }} [[support]]s [[valentine]] ({{nowrap| 15 & 46 }}), and is the [[optimal patent val]] for [[freivald]] ({{nowrap| 24 & 37 }}) in the 7-, 11- and 13-limit. The 61d [[val]] {{val| 61 97 142 '''172''' }} is a great tuning for [[modus]] and [[quasisuper]], and is a simple but out-of-tune edo tuning for [[parakleismic]]. | |||
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== Notation == | == Notation == | ||
=== Ups and downs notation === | |||
61edo can be notated using [[ups and downs notation]] using [[Helmholtz–Ellis]] accidentals: | |||
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=== Sagittal notation === | |||
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as [[54edo #Sagittal notation|54edo]]. | |||
==== Evo flavor ==== | |||
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In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's [[Sagittal notation#Primary comma|primary comma]] (the comma it ''exactly'' represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it ''approximately'' represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this | In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's [[Sagittal notation#Primary comma|primary comma]] (the comma it ''exactly'' represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it ''approximately'' represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this edo. | ||
== Regular temperament properties == | |||
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" |[[Subgroup]] | |||
! rowspan="2" |[[Comma list]] | |||
! rowspan="2" |[[Mapping]] | |||
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve stretch (¢) | |||
! colspan="2" | Tuning error | |||
|- | |||
![[TE error|Absolute]] (¢) | |||
![[TE simple badness|Relative]] (%) | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3 | |||
|{{Monzo| 97 -61 }} | |||
|{{Mapping| 61 97 }} | |||
| −1.97 | |||
| 1.97 | |||
| 10.0 | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3.5 | |||
| 20000/19683, 262144/253125 | |||
|{{Mapping| 61 97 142 }} | |||
| −2.33 | |||
| 1.69 | |||
| 8.59 | |||
|- style="border-top: double;" | |||
| 2.3.5.7 | |||
| 64/63, 2430/2401, 3125/3087 | |||
|{{mapping| 61 97 142 172 }} (61d) | |||
| −3.06 | |||
| 1.93 | |||
| 9.84 | |||
|- style="border-top: double;" | |||
| 2.3.5.7 | |||
| 126/125, 1029/1024, 2240/2187 | |||
|{{Mapping| 61 97 142 171 }} (61) | |||
| −1.32 | |||
| 2.29 | |||
| 11.7 | |||
|} | |||
=== Rank-2 temperaments === | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all left-5" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" |Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator | |||
|- | |||
! Periods<br>per 8ve | |||
! Generator* | |||
! Cents* | |||
! Associated<br>ratio* | |||
! Temperament | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 2\61 | |||
| 39.3 | |||
| 40/39 | |||
|[[Hemivalentine]] (61) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 3\61 | |||
| 59.0 | |||
| 28/27 | |||
|[[Dodecacot]] (61de…) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 4\61 | |||
| 78.7 | |||
| 22/21 | |||
|[[Valentine]] (61) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 5\61 | |||
| 98.4 | |||
| 16/15 | |||
|[[Passion]] (61de…) / [[passionate]] (61) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 7\61 | |||
| 137.7 | |||
| 13/12 | |||
|[[Quartemka]] (61) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 9\61 | |||
| 177.0 | |||
| 10/9 | |||
|[[Modus]] (61de) / [[wollemia]] (61e) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 11\61 | |||
| 236.1 | |||
| 8/7 | |||
|[[Slendric]] (61) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 16\61 | |||
| 314.8 | |||
| 6/5 | |||
|[[Parakleismic]] (61d) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 23\61 | |||
| 452.5 | |||
| 13/10 | |||
|[[Maja]] (61d) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 25\61 | |||
| 491.8 | |||
| 4/3 | |||
|[[Quasisuper]] (61d) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 28\61 | |||
| 550.8 | |||
| 11/8 | |||
|[[Freivald]] (61) | |||
|} | |||
<nowiki/>* [[Normal lists|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave | |||
== Instruments == | |||
A [[Lumatone mapping for 61edo]] has now been demonstrated (see the Valentine mapping for full gamut coverage). | |||
== See also == | |||
=== Introductory poem === | |||
[[Peter Kosmorsky]] wrote a poem on 61edo; see [[User:Spt3125/61edo poem|the 61edo poem]]. | |||
[[ | == Music == | ||
; [[Bryan Deister]] | |||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1Ai__APev5M ''microtonal improvisation in 61edo''] (2025) |
Latest revision as of 11:36, 11 April 2025
← 60edo | 61edo | 62edo → |
61 equal divisions of the octave (abbreviated 61edo or 61ed2), also called 61-tone equal temperament (61tet) or 61 equal temperament (61et) when viewed under a regular temperament perspective, is the tuning system that divides the octave into 61 equal parts of about 19.7 ¢ each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 21/61, or the 61st root of 2.
Theory
61edo is only consistent to the 5-odd-limit. Its 3rd and 5th harmonics are sharp of just by more than 6 cents, and the 7th and 11th, though they err by less, are on the flat side. This limits its harmonic inventory. However, it does possess reasonably good approximations of 21/16 and 23/16, only a bit more than one cent off in each case.
As an equal temperament, 61et is characterized by tempering out 20000/19683 (tetracot comma) and 262144/253125 (passion comma) in the 5-limit. In the 7-limit, the patent val ⟨61 97 142 171] supports valentine (15 & 46), and is the optimal patent val for freivald (24 & 37) in the 7-, 11- and 13-limit. The 61d val ⟨61 97 142 172] is a great tuning for modus and quasisuper, and is a simple but out-of-tune edo tuning for parakleismic.
Odd harmonics
Harmonic | 3 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 11 | 13 | 15 | 17 | 19 | 21 | 23 | |
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Error | Absolute (¢) | +6.24 | +7.13 | -4.89 | -7.19 | -0.50 | +5.37 | -6.30 | -6.59 | -2.43 | +1.35 | +1.23 |
Relative (%) | +31.7 | +36.2 | -24.9 | -36.5 | -2.5 | +27.3 | -32.0 | -33.5 | -12.4 | +6.9 | +6.3 | |
Steps (reduced) |
97 (36) |
142 (20) |
171 (49) |
193 (10) |
211 (28) |
226 (43) |
238 (55) |
249 (5) |
259 (15) |
268 (24) |
276 (32) |
Subsets and supersets
61edo is the 18th prime edo, after 59edo and before 67edo. 183edo, which triples it, corrects its approximation to many of the lower harmonics.
Intervals
Steps | Cents | Approximate ratios | Ups and downs notation |
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0 | 0 | 1/1 | D |
1 | 19.7 | ^D, vvE♭ | |
2 | 39.3 | ^^D, vE♭ | |
3 | 59 | 29/28, 32/31 | ^3D, E♭ |
4 | 78.7 | 22/21, 23/22 | ^4D, ^E♭ |
5 | 98.4 | 35/33 | v3D♯, ^^E♭ |
6 | 118 | 31/29 | vvD♯, ^3E♭ |
7 | 137.7 | 13/12 | vD♯, v4E |
8 | 157.4 | 23/21, 34/31, 35/32 | D♯, v3E |
9 | 177 | 21/19, 31/28 | ^D♯, vvE |
10 | 196.7 | 19/17 | ^^D♯, vE |
11 | 216.4 | 26/23 | E |
12 | 236.1 | ^E, vvF | |
13 | 255.7 | 22/19 | ^^E, vF |
14 | 275.4 | 34/29 | F |
15 | 295.1 | 19/16 | ^F, vvG♭ |
16 | 314.8 | 6/5 | ^^F, vG♭ |
17 | 334.4 | 17/14, 23/19 | ^3F, G♭ |
18 | 354.1 | ^4F, ^G♭ | |
19 | 373.8 | 26/21 | v3F♯, ^^G♭ |
20 | 393.4 | vvF♯, ^3G♭ | |
21 | 413.1 | 14/11, 33/26 | vF♯, v4G |
22 | 432.8 | F♯, v3G | |
23 | 452.5 | 13/10 | ^F♯, vvG |
24 | 472.1 | 21/16 | ^^F♯, vG |
25 | 491.8 | G | |
26 | 511.5 | 35/26 | ^G, vvA♭ |
27 | 531.1 | 19/14 | ^^G, vA♭ |
28 | 550.8 | 11/8 | ^3G, A♭ |
29 | 570.5 | 25/18, 32/23 | ^4G, ^A♭ |
30 | 590.2 | 31/22 | v3G♯, ^^A♭ |
31 | 609.8 | vvG♯, ^3A♭ | |
32 | 629.5 | 23/16 | vG♯, v4A |
33 | 649.2 | 16/11, 35/24 | G♯, v3A |
34 | 668.9 | 28/19 | ^G♯, vvA |
35 | 688.5 | ^^G♯, vA | |
36 | 708.2 | A | |
37 | 727.9 | 29/19, 32/21, 35/23 | ^A, vvB♭ |
38 | 747.5 | 20/13 | ^^A, vB♭ |
39 | 767.2 | ^3A, B♭ | |
40 | 786.9 | 11/7 | ^4A, ^B♭ |
41 | 806.6 | 35/22 | v3A♯, ^^B♭ |
42 | 826.2 | 21/13 | vvA♯, ^3B♭ |
43 | 845.9 | 31/19 | vA♯, v4B |
44 | 865.6 | 28/17, 33/20 | A♯, v3B |
45 | 885.2 | 5/3 | ^A♯, vvB |
46 | 904.9 | 32/19 | ^^A♯, vB |
47 | 924.6 | 29/17 | B |
48 | 944.3 | 19/11 | ^B, vvC |
49 | 963.9 | ^^B, vC | |
50 | 983.6 | 23/13 | C |
51 | 1003.3 | 34/19 | ^C, vvD♭ |
52 | 1023 | ^^C, vD♭ | |
53 | 1042.6 | 31/17 | ^3C, D♭ |
54 | 1062.3 | 24/13 | ^4C, ^D♭ |
55 | 1082 | v3C♯, ^^D♭ | |
56 | 1101.6 | vvC♯, ^3D♭ | |
57 | 1121.3 | 21/11 | vC♯, v4D |
58 | 1141 | 31/16 | C♯, v3D |
59 | 1160.7 | ^C♯, vvD | |
60 | 1180.3 | ^^C♯, vD | |
61 | 1200 | 2/1 | D |
Notation
Ups and downs notation
61edo can be notated using ups and downs notation using Helmholtz–Ellis accidentals:
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Sagittal notation
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as 54edo.
Evo flavor

Revo flavor

Evo-SZ flavor

In the diagrams above, a sagittal symbol followed by an equals sign (=) means that the following comma is the symbol's primary comma (the comma it exactly represents in JI), while an approximately equals sign (≈) means it is a secondary comma (a comma it approximately represents in JI). In both cases the symbol exactly represents the tempered version of the comma in this edo.
Regular temperament properties
Subgroup | Comma list | Mapping | Optimal 8ve stretch (¢) |
Tuning error | |
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Absolute (¢) | Relative (%) | ||||
2.3 | [97 -61⟩ | [⟨61 97]] | −1.97 | 1.97 | 10.0 |
2.3.5 | 20000/19683, 262144/253125 | [⟨61 97 142]] | −2.33 | 1.69 | 8.59 |
2.3.5.7 | 64/63, 2430/2401, 3125/3087 | [⟨61 97 142 172]] (61d) | −3.06 | 1.93 | 9.84 |
2.3.5.7 | 126/125, 1029/1024, 2240/2187 | [⟨61 97 142 171]] (61) | −1.32 | 2.29 | 11.7 |
Rank-2 temperaments
Periods per 8ve |
Generator* | Cents* | Associated ratio* |
Temperament |
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1 | 2\61 | 39.3 | 40/39 | Hemivalentine (61) |
1 | 3\61 | 59.0 | 28/27 | Dodecacot (61de…) |
1 | 4\61 | 78.7 | 22/21 | Valentine (61) |
1 | 5\61 | 98.4 | 16/15 | Passion (61de…) / passionate (61) |
1 | 7\61 | 137.7 | 13/12 | Quartemka (61) |
1 | 9\61 | 177.0 | 10/9 | Modus (61de) / wollemia (61e) |
1 | 11\61 | 236.1 | 8/7 | Slendric (61) |
1 | 16\61 | 314.8 | 6/5 | Parakleismic (61d) |
1 | 23\61 | 452.5 | 13/10 | Maja (61d) |
1 | 25\61 | 491.8 | 4/3 | Quasisuper (61d) |
1 | 28\61 | 550.8 | 11/8 | Freivald (61) |
* Octave-reduced form, reduced to the first half-octave
Instruments
A Lumatone mapping for 61edo has now been demonstrated (see the Valentine mapping for full gamut coverage).
See also
Introductory poem
Peter Kosmorsky wrote a poem on 61edo; see the 61edo poem.